Chinese written test...

[Dlink13]

Does anyone know an easy way or have notes on how to interpret RDMI or HSI pictures for exam. I get half right and half wrong. Been years since I've used them..?

[Always Moving]

B

Always B
You are already OUT trying to make sense of a senseless world...
I understand your frustration but...... B

AM

[Pin Head]

Bit confused. Can someone help me where my efforts should be focused on? Is it a 737 or a dc9 for the performance.

Thanks

Pin

[G550mueller]

Caac question bank

Hi rwong,
Do you still have Info about caac question bank
Anything is much appreciated.
Thanks

Kindest Regards

Alex

[Weatherguysfo]

ATPL Written Exam

I just finished a three year contract with VOR Holdings in China. They have a CAAC ATPL Practice Exam online for their candidates. It is located in their forum which is part of their website. Their pass rate is running at nearly 100%. I have heard that the average pass rate in China is about 50%.

[GAVARD]

CAAC WRITTEN EXAM TEST

Hello everybody, I'm in the process to go to china to pass the caac atpl..
I'have read a lot on the forum from 2007..
Does anyone have any recent experience from a recent caac atpl written test ?
What could be the best recommandation and strategy to pass with a maximum of chance ?
Does the question changed recently ?
How many A320, B737 performance charts, flight planning, and what kind ?
what kind of calculation questions ?..

thanks for your time, René-Louis

[Weatherguysfo]

Pass the Interview

Dear René-Louis,

You should definitely talk with VOR Holdings. Actually, the CAAC written exam is the very least of your worries. You can take the written test over as many times as necessary. The company interview, company sim check, medical and the caac check ride are the hard parts. VOR Holdings has study information on its forum that provides each airline's sops, training guidelines, reports from previous pilots that have taken the check rides. They also support you through the interview and help you all the time that you fly in China. I know many other guys that came to China that were left with little or no support. Their lives were not fun.

Good luck! I hope everything goes well for you.

[Rayoflight]

I came with Pilotmovers and these guys are good and supportive. They also have a short question database that makes your preparation for the ATPL less stressful.

Medical and Sim are not that difficult either if you are well briefed in advance. Normally your agency should do it.

As usual, choose your agency and the airline you are applying to in China. Otherwise you will be stuck forever in a bad airline, in China Airlines hold your papers and do not allow you to apply to other competitors without their consent.

Good luck!!!

[woodja51]

Gleim

Go search Gleim for the ATPL Qs. And yes, that is the easy part....

Check what your agents are offerring ... There are loss of licence and other elements offered by some and not others , pls bonds of up to 22k from some for NTRs if coming from narrow bodies.

Try tasman aviation or Longreachchina.com for some good info!

Wja

[typhoonpilot]

Dear René-Louis,

You should definitely talk with VOR Holdings. Actually, the CAAC written exam is the very least of your worries. You can take the written test over as many times as necessary. The company interview, company sim check, medical and the caac check ride are the hard parts. VOR Holdings has study information on its forum that provides each airline's sops, training guidelines, reports from previous pilots that have taken the check rides. They also support you through the interview and help you all the time that you fly in China. I know many other guys that came to China that were left with little or no support. Their lives were not fun.

Good luck! I hope everything goes well for you.

I'm glad that you had a good experience with VOR Holdings, but that does not appear to be the consensus view on this forum, or any other. Have they done away with the exclusivity clause in their contract? Have they ever got a good answer for tax treatment of U.S. citizens?



TP

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So I joined a very exclusive group this week. I am a member of a group of Americans who has actually passed the CAAC ATP written twice. I’m 2-0. Anyhow having made an 88 the first time I had a pretty good idea of what to study and I was up to about 100% on the FAA stuff and the Chinese questions that I had. This time I took the ATP near Shenzhen. I opened the test book and looked at all of the visuals first. Most of that stuff is directly lifted from the FAA books. I did not see any DC-9 performance visuals. The performance questions that refer to them are verbatim. I saw the FAA holding pattern RMIs but the holding question that I received did not refer to them. Last time I was around question 50 before I marked any for review. I was confident in a good score very early. This time was a total wackadoodle. I wasn’t nervous at all because I knew my stuff. I had made study guides last time and made them longer and better this time. My confidence was shattered around question #2. I had marked 15 questions for review by question 50. Yikes. Last time I had about 70-75 questions from the FAA. This time not so many. I had about 10 737 and 727 performance problems that were verbatim from the FAA. I had about another 10 questions that were the same or similar. The rest might as well have been written in Greek. That stuff I posted in 2011 in this thread about the airbus was easy for me to memorize. I had all of them down. None of the 3 airbus questions were in those problems. Some of the stuff did not even seem to be about aviation. I had a question about global warming. The guy I was with had one about getting shot down. There was a visual that I don’t ever recall seeing. It looked like an FAA visual but it may have been from the instrument written and not the ATP questions. It had 4 RMIs each with two pointers on each. The question said “If the plane makes a 180 degree turn which representation would result in a 30 degree intercept to the 180 degree radial. The choices were 2,3,4 not 1. If anyone can find where that came from it would be a big help. I think it’s just the luck of the draw. I studied the 1255 question bank and the 680 one. I made a 75 and was very stressed out. Time ran out before I finished. I was reviewing my answers to the Chinese questions at the end and time ran out. A message came up on the screen in Chinese and I saw a 75 in the middle of it. I asked the proctor and he said I passed.

I think the class A airspace over China begins at 6300 meters. I can’t find anyone that knows. The gouges and sample questions differ on that point.

Chinese question guessing strategy. Pick the longest one. One of mine had the words not and no about 7 times. The other answer made sense.I picked the one with all of the negations in it.

Chinese guessing strategy #2. If you see this A. 3 and M, B. 3 and X, C. 4 and X. Pick B. There are 2 3s and 2 Xs.


Here is some stuff from some of my study guides.



Holding
6000 200
6001 to 14K 230
14001 265

HSI Displacement is 200 Ft. Per NM per Dot. Per NM
Full Deflection is 10 Deg

• Remember to check for a from arrow and the radial is the opposite.
  
  ILS An provides 1.Guidance 2.Range and 3.Visual guidance. Green Red Violet
  
  An SDF is 6 to 12 but an LDA is 3 off or more.
  
  A 3 degree GS is 5 times the GS in knots
  
  Head wind correction [Wind * (Time / 60)]
  
  To convert GS and Climb gradient to VS multiply them together.
  
  Tabs
  Servo tabs move the opposite direction as the control surface
  
  Anti servo tabs oppose further movement and provide feel and move in the same direction as the surface
  
  A control tab is used in the event of a manual reversion.
  
  Load factor
  60 Deg is 2 Gs.
  
  Medicals are not required for practical tests in China if a simulator is used
  
  Required reports in IFR and Not in radar contact
  
  Illusions
  Coriolis Illusion Unpleasant tumbling sensation Head is bowed foreword rapidly during flight.
  Coriolis illusion. An abrupt head movement
  Leans.when a aircraft is in an abrupt recovery or a rapid correction
  Somatogravic Illusion.A rapid acceleration or deceleration
  Inversion Illusion. An abrupt change from a climb to straight and level flight
  
  Constant rate turns and entirely different axis is Coriolis Illusion
  
  Notams
  Class 2 is 15 days and A and C
  Series D. Airport information office.
  
  Compressor Stalls
  Compressor Stall is steady = Strong vibrations and loud Roar.
  Steady state = Loud Roar and strong eng vib.=Most potential for sever eng damage.
  Transient stall = intermitten bang
  
  When Pilot is below 100hrs increase Min by 30 Meters D/A and 800m Vis
  
  Servo Tabs
  Control: Moves the Flight Controls in the event of a manual reversion
  
  Months
  Flight plans, Dispatch releases and load manifests 3 months

• Temp ATP only 120days
• Voice Recorder kept for 60 days.

An Sic remains instrument current for 6 months

For supplemental the PIC is responsible for obtaining whether

Heat change by compression or expansion is Adiabatic

Roll out mode is armed at 1500ft.
Buss isolation occurs at 1000ft.

III A minimum is 200m

HIRL and MIRL have Amber lights on the last 2000 ft.

All rest req.
2 Pilots
8 in 24Hours
No more than 14 Hours on Duty
Can be extended to 9 if no more than 2 legs. But you need 10 hours reducible to 9.
If duty exceeds 14 you can’t reduce.

3 Pilots
No more than 16 in 24
No more than 14 Hours on Duty
Can’t fly more than 10
14 hours rest reducible to 12 if duty period doesn’t exceed 16.
Duty period must not exceed 18 hours.

4 Pilots
20 Hours of duty and 17 flight time
22 Hours of rest is required reducible to 20 if you did not exceed 20 hours.
Never can exceed 22 hours.


OM Blue
MM ____ _____
IM ……
BC ....

Outer Compass Locator has first 2 letters of the LOC and the Middle compass locator will have the last 2


TP Jet
Above 3 250 250
Below 3 200 210
20 out 150 170
Dep 150 230

• Crew member: a person assigned to a duty in aircraft during flight(pilots, flight engineer, navigator, flight attendants, etc)
  Flight crew member: pilots, flight engineer, navigator

• Within the preceding 90days, not 3 T/O & L/G, must do 3 T/O & L/G

• at least 1 T/O with a sim failure of the most critical power plant
• at least 1 L/G from ILS approach to the lowest ILS min authorized for the certificate holder
• at least 1 L/G to full stop

• PIC under IFR, within the 6 months

• logged at least 6 instrument approach, perform holding procedure, intercepted& tracked course through the use of Nav system
• or passed an instrument competency check in the category of A/C involved

• To eligible for CAT II authorization,

• at least 6 ILS since the beginning of the 6th month before the test
• must under sim or actual instrument condition, down to minimum in the type A/C
• need not to DH of CAT II
• at least 3,must be manually without approach coupler

Flag and domestic dispatch release:
1。ID number of aircraft
2．trip number
3．Dep/destination/intermediate/alternate
4．type of Operation (IFR/VFR)
5．min fuel supply
6.any additional weather reports or forecasts
(Memory aid) Trip #, Ship # Weather, Weather, Fuel and all airports.

Supplemental air carriers and commercial operators dispatch release
company or organization name
make, model and reg number
flight or trip number and the date
crew name
Dep/destination/intermediate/alternate and route
type of Operation (IFR/VFR)
min fuel supply
latest weather reports and forecast for the complete flight

• PIC carry doc to destination and keep 3months

•  
  1.  
     1. load manifest
     2. flight release
     3. flight plan
     4. airworthiness release and pilot route certification(not for supplemental air carrier)

• domestic and flag flight in china

•  
  1. fly to destination
  2. thereafter ,fly to most distant alternate
  3. thereafter ,fly 45min at normal cruising fuel consumption
     if authorized by CAAC,
     1. fly from specified airport to alternate
     2. thereafter ,fly 45min at normal cruising fuel consumption
     3. but ,no less than the requirement to fly to destination and thereafter 2hours at cruising fuel consumption

• international (no-turbine and turbo-propeller)

•  
  1. fly to destination
  2. thereafter ,fly to most distant alternate
  3. thereafter ,fly 30min plus 15% of (1) (2)at normal cruising fuel consumption ,OR fly 90min at normal cruising fuel consumption, whichever is less
     if no specified alternate,
     1. fly to the destination
     2. thereafter ,fly3 hours at normal cruising fuel consumption

• international (turbo jet, other than turbo-propeller)

•  
  1. fly to destination , plus 10%
  2. thereafter ,fly to most distant alternate
  3. thereafter ,fly 30min at holding speed at 1500 ft over alternate
     if no specified alternate,
     1. fly to the destination
     2. thereafter ,fly 2 hours at normal cruising fuel consumption

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SituationIllusionResult
Upsloping Runway or Terrain Greater HeightLower Approaches
Downsloping Runway or Terrain Less Height Higher Approaches
Narrower-Than-Usual Runway Greater Height Lower Approaches
Bright Runway and Approach Lights Less Distance Higher Approaches
Wider-Than-Usual Runway Less Height Higher Approaches
Featureless Terrain Great Height Lower Approaches
Rain on Windscreen Greater Height Lower Approaches
Haze Greater Height Lower Approaches
Penetration of Fog Pitching Up Steeper Approaches
I cant get this to print with spaces in it. Sorry! You will receive a partial refund.


Use Oxygen
when we fly above 10 000 feet (3 050 meters) during the day or above5 000 feet (1 525 meters) at night, we should use supplemental oxygen.

One mile is .621 KM
1 meter is 3.28 Ft.
Landing 50 feet high will cause 1000 of additional landing distance
Required reports
Vacating an assigned altitude
Altitude change when VFR on top
Unable 500FPM
Missed app.
Cruse 10 Knots or 5 %
Reaching a holding fix
Leaving a holding fix
Failed Nav equipment
Designated comp reporting points
Leaving the FAF inbound.
When ETA changes by 3 min to a fix.

Airbus. Pick the middle value except these 30.1, 30.2,31.6, 33.5. All start with T.O. Weight if A320 is in an answer. Although none of those questions came up.

Clearway: Part of the rwy for decelerating a rejected takeoff
Stop Way: A clearing of trees before the rwy.

Max permissible variation between the 2 bearing indicators on a DUAL VOR
system when CHECKING one VOR AGAINST THE OTHER? 4 deg on ground
and in flight

If AIRBORNE checkpoint is used to CHECK THE VOR system for IFR
operations, the max BEARING ERROR permissible is plus or minus 6 deg
If a FLAG air CARRIER flight lands at an immediate airport at 1845Z, and
experiences a delay, what is the LATEST TIME it may DEPART for the next
airport WITHOUT a REDISPATCH release? 0045Z (6 hours)

An aircraft that encounters a HEADWIND of 40 knots, within a MICROBURST,
may expect a TOTAL SHEAR cross the microburst of 80 knots.

Loss of cabin pressure may result in HYPOXIA because as cabin altitude
increases oxygen PARTIAL PRESSURE is decreased.

Symptom of HYPERVENTILATION- TINGLING of the hands, legs and feet.

CLEAR AIR TURBULENCE associated with a MOUNTAIN WAVE may
extend as far as 5,000 FEET ABOVE THE TROPOPAUSE.

Thrust is being managed to maintain desired indicated airspeed and the glide
slope is being flown.

Which CHARACTERISTICS should be observed when a
TAILWIND SHEARS to a constant HEADWIND? PITCH ATTITUDE:
Increase, VERTICAL SPEED: decreases, INDICATED AIRSPEED
INCREASES THEN DECREASES

When will the FLARE ARM annunciated? At the engagement of the second
autopilot.

118.1 is in Mhz.

IFR is G

420 nautical miles = N0420

0.70 Mach = M070.

Below FL180, en route weather advisories should be obtained from an FSS on 122.0MHZ

If the f irst portion of the flight is under IFR and the latter portion is under VFR, pilot
should f i ll the FLIGHT RULES box with letter Y.

题目： On the constant pressure analysis chart, aircraft and satel l ite observations are used
in the analysis over areas of sparse data. An aircraft observation is plotted using
A： a station circle at the aircraft location.
B： a square at the aircraft location.
C： a star at the aircraft location.

题目： On the constant pressure analysis chart, satel l ite and aircraft observations are used
in the analysis, over areas of sparse data. A satel l ite observation plotted using
A： a station circle at the cloud top location.
B： a square at the cloud top location.
C： a star at the cloud top location.

题目： Compared to dynamic hydroplaning, at what speed does viscous hydroplaning occur
when landing on a smooth, wet runway?
A： At approximately 2.0 times the speed that dynamic hydroplaning occurs
B： At a lower speed than dynamic hydroplaning
C： At the same speed as dynamic hydroplaning

When a flight plan indicates IFR for the entire route, pi lot should fi ll the FLIGHT
RULES box with letter I.

For scheduled airline, pilots should f ill in the box of TYPE OF FLIGHT with letter S

Which altitude is appropriate to the top of Class B airspace? FL 6,300m. (I think)

题目： The information required in the flight release for supplemental air carriers and
commercial operators that is not required in the dispatch release for f lag and domestic air
carriers is the names of all crewmembers.

The TWEB Route Forecasts and Synopses are issued by the Weather Service
Forecast Offices (WSFOs) four times per day according to t ime zone. The TWEB forecast is
val id for a12-hour period.

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D -- Detect the fact that a change has occurred;
E -- Estimate the need to counter or react to the change;
C -- Choose a desirable outcome for the success of the flight;
I -- Identify actions which could successfully control the change;
D -- Do the necessary, action to adapt to the change;
E -- Evaluate the effect of the action.

CAAC within l0 days after the pilot returning to
his/her home base.
When ATC gives priority to an aircraft in an emergency, the chief of the ATC facility
involved may ask the pilot-in-command to submit a report. If asked, the pilot-in-command
must submit a detailed written report to the ATC facility manager within 48 hours. This is
required whether or not there was a deviation from regulations.

题目：What are the line check requirements for the pilot in command for a domestic air
carrier?
C： The line check is required every 12 months in each type aircraft in which the
pilot may fly.

题目： If the f irst portion of the flight is under IFR and the latter portion is under VFR, pilot
should f i ll the FLIGHT RULES box with letter
A：Y. (Why would you just fly under IFR the whole way)

题目： During multiauto pilot approaches, bus isolation occurs at:
A： 500 ft AGL
B： 1000 ft AGL
C： 1500 ft AGL

题目： For scheduled airline, pilots should f il l in the box of TYPE OF FLIGHT with letter
A：G
B：S
C：R

题目： In average, for every 1,000 feet increase in the troposphere, the temperature of the
air wi l l
A： descend 2℃

Now on to the medical. On my U.S. EKG I get two messages at the top right. One says arrhythmia and the other says T-wave abnormality. This was the flunker last time. After 3 years of writing letters I got screened by another company. They knew in advance that I would require additional test and because I had those same test run 3 years ago in the U.S. The company and I already knew what the results would be. A T-wave abnormality usually indicates Ischemia (heart attack). There is no relief in the Chinese regulation for ischemia. They have to know that you are not ischemic or no medical for you. Last time Capital could have sent me for more testing but no soup for me. This time another company sent me. I had a CAT scan with an iodine injection. Yes that sucker hurt bad for about 5 seconds. They can also do an angiogram to verify that the T-wave abnormality is a “false positive”. I kept it under a lid that I had been to China before and canned for the medical. Only my closest friends know. Looks like I am headed to China for employment this time. At the time of this post I haven’t heard back yet.


Best of luck to you guys!

[classic743]

Hi I had a look at the Huaxun website but unfortunately it asks for a password to view the exam study material. Any ideas on how to get hold of a password?

[wellfedCanuck]

Hey fellows, same boat as above- the question bank in the links on previous pages of this thread is now password protected. I'll purchase the Gleim, my screening is in 2 months! (28 years since I wrote my ATPL, geez, we didn't even have personal computers back then!) Any help much appreciated.

[tommy4931]

I was wondering if anyone would offer up their password foot the Chinese written on vor holdings sight? Hate to gather and send all the documents..... Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[tommy4931]

Does anyone have any guidance on which parts to the FAA ATP test guide to study? I wouldn't assume the part 135 stuff or the FAA regs would be of great importance, or the recip airplane questions....

Thanks for your help.

[Deerjet67]

Based on my experience, study the A320/727 performance questions. They may account for 8 or so questions, all the other questions are what YOU already know. Any questions, PM me.

[tommy4931]

Thank you very much. I will pm you soon.

[RG500]

I just finished writing the exam. The 100 questions that you will see are randomly chosen from the Chinese question bank.
With that said, in the performance you could see DC9/B737/A320 or even B727. Your best bet is to get ahold of a Chinese study guide and the Jan or June 2014 Chinese ATPL question bank and then be prepared to see 30% new questions, that you've not seen.