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Old 15th Jun 2014, 21:29
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So I joined a very exclusive group this week. I am a member of a group of Americans who has actually passed the CAAC ATP written twice. I’m 2-0. Anyhow having made an 88 the first time I had a pretty good idea of what to study and I was up to about 100% on the FAA stuff and the Chinese questions that I had. This time I took the ATP near Shenzhen. I opened the test book and looked at all of the visuals first. Most of that stuff is directly lifted from the FAA books. I did not see any DC-9 performance visuals. The performance questions that refer to them are verbatim. I saw the FAA holding pattern RMIs but the holding question that I received did not refer to them. Last time I was around question 50 before I marked any for review. I was confident in a good score very early. This time was a total wackadoodle. I wasn’t nervous at all because I knew my stuff. I had made study guides last time and made them longer and better this time. My confidence was shattered around question #2. I had marked 15 questions for review by question 50. Yikes. Last time I had about 70-75 questions from the FAA. This time not so many. I had about 10 737 and 727 performance problems that were verbatim from the FAA. I had about another 10 questions that were the same or similar. The rest might as well have been written in Greek. That stuff I posted in 2011 in this thread about the airbus was easy for me to memorize. I had all of them down. None of the 3 airbus questions were in those problems. Some of the stuff did not even seem to be about aviation. I had a question about global warming. The guy I was with had one about getting shot down. There was a visual that I don’t ever recall seeing. It looked like an FAA visual but it may have been from the instrument written and not the ATP questions. It had 4 RMIs each with two pointers on each. The question said “If the plane makes a 180 degree turn which representation would result in a 30 degree intercept to the 180 degree radial. The choices were 2,3,4 not 1. If anyone can find where that came from it would be a big help. I think it’s just the luck of the draw. I studied the 1255 question bank and the 680 one. I made a 75 and was very stressed out. Time ran out before I finished. I was reviewing my answers to the Chinese questions at the end and time ran out. A message came up on the screen in Chinese and I saw a 75 in the middle of it. I asked the proctor and he said I passed.

I think the class A airspace over China begins at 6300 meters. I can’t find anyone that knows. The gouges and sample questions differ on that point.

Chinese question guessing strategy. Pick the longest one. One of mine had the words not and no about 7 times. The other answer made sense.I picked the one with all of the negations in it.

Chinese guessing strategy #2. If you see this A. 3 and M, B. 3 and X, C. 4 and X. Pick B. There are 2 3s and 2 Xs.


Here is some stuff from some of my study guides.



Holding
6000 200
6001 to 14K 230
14001 265

HSI Displacement is 200 Ft. Per NM per Dot. Per NM
Full Deflection is 10 Deg

  • Remember to check for a from arrow and the radial is the opposite.

    ILS An provides 1.Guidance 2.Range and 3.Visual guidance. Green Red Violet

    An SDF is 6 to 12 but an LDA is 3 off or more.

    A 3 degree GS is 5 times the GS in knots

    Head wind correction [Wind * (Time / 60)]

    To convert GS and Climb gradient to VS multiply them together.

    Tabs
    Servo tabs move the opposite direction as the control surface

    Anti servo tabs oppose further movement and provide feel and move in the same direction as the surface

    A control tab is used in the event of a manual reversion.

    Load factor
    60 Deg is 2 Gs.

    Medicals are not required for practical tests in China if a simulator is used

    Required reports in IFR and Not in radar contact

    Illusions
    Coriolis Illusion Unpleasant tumbling sensation Head is bowed foreword rapidly during flight.
    Coriolis illusion. An abrupt head movement
    Leans.when a aircraft is in an abrupt recovery or a rapid correction
    Somatogravic Illusion.A rapid acceleration or deceleration
    Inversion Illusion. An abrupt change from a climb to straight and level flight

    Constant rate turns and entirely different axis is Coriolis Illusion

    Notams
    Class 2 is 15 days and A and C
    Series D. Airport information office.

    Compressor Stalls
    Compressor Stall is steady = Strong vibrations and loud Roar.
    Steady state = Loud Roar and strong eng vib.=Most potential for sever eng damage.
    Transient stall = intermitten bang

    When Pilot is below 100hrs increase Min by 30 Meters D/A and 800m Vis

    Servo Tabs
    Control: Moves the Flight Controls in the event of a manual reversion

    Months
    Flight plans, Dispatch releases and load manifests 3 months
  • Temp ATP only 120days
  • Voice Recorder kept for 60 days.

An Sic remains instrument current for 6 months

For supplemental the PIC is responsible for obtaining whether

Heat change by compression or expansion is Adiabatic

Roll out mode is armed at 1500ft.
Buss isolation occurs at 1000ft.

III A minimum is 200m

HIRL and MIRL have Amber lights on the last 2000 ft.

All rest req.
2 Pilots
8 in 24Hours
No more than 14 Hours on Duty
Can be extended to 9 if no more than 2 legs. But you need 10 hours reducible to 9.
If duty exceeds 14 you can’t reduce.

3 Pilots
No more than 16 in 24
No more than 14 Hours on Duty
Can’t fly more than 10
14 hours rest reducible to 12 if duty period doesn’t exceed 16.
Duty period must not exceed 18 hours.

4 Pilots
20 Hours of duty and 17 flight time
22 Hours of rest is required reducible to 20 if you did not exceed 20 hours.
Never can exceed 22 hours.


OM Blue
MM ____ _____
IM ……
BC ....

Outer Compass Locator has first 2 letters of the LOC and the Middle compass locator will have the last 2


TP Jet
Above 3 250 250
Below 3 200 210
20 out 150 170
Dep 150 230


  • Crew member: a person assigned to a duty in aircraft during flight(pilots, flight engineer, navigator, flight attendants, etc)
    Flight crew member: pilots, flight engineer, navigator
  • Within the preceding 90days, not 3 T/O & L/G, must do 3 T/O & L/G
  • at least 1 T/O with a sim failure of the most critical power plant
  • at least 1 L/G from ILS approach to the lowest ILS min authorized for the certificate holder
  • at least 1 L/G to full stop

  • PIC under IFR, within the 6 months
  • logged at least 6 instrument approach, perform holding procedure, intercepted& tracked course through the use of Nav system
  • or passed an instrument competency check in the category of A/C involved

  • To eligible for CAT II authorization,
  • at least 6 ILS since the beginning of the 6th month before the test
  • must under sim or actual instrument condition, down to minimum in the type A/C
  • need not to DH of CAT II
  • at least 3,must be manually without approach coupler

Flag and domestic dispatch release:
1ID number of aircraft
2trip number
3Dep/destination/intermediate/alternate
4type of Operation (IFR/VFR)
5min fuel supply
6.any additional weather reports or forecasts
(Memory aid) Trip #, Ship # Weather, Weather, Fuel and all airports.

Supplemental air carriers and commercial operators dispatch release
company or organization name
make, model and reg number
flight or trip number and the date
crew name
Dep/destination/intermediate/alternate and route
type of Operation (IFR/VFR)
min fuel supply
latest weather reports and forecast for the complete flight


  • PIC carry doc to destination and keep 3months
  •  
    1.  
      1. load manifest
      2. flight release
      3. flight plan
      4. airworthiness release and pilot route certification(not for supplemental air carrier)

  • domestic and flag flight in china
  •  
    1. fly to destination
    2. thereafter ,fly to most distant alternate
    3. thereafter ,fly 45min at normal cruising fuel consumption
      if authorized by CAAC,
      1. fly from specified airport to alternate
      2. thereafter ,fly 45min at normal cruising fuel consumption
      3. but ,no less than the requirement to fly to destination and thereafter 2hours at cruising fuel consumption
  • international (no-turbine and turbo-propeller)
  •  
    1. fly to destination
    2. thereafter ,fly to most distant alternate
    3. thereafter ,fly 30min plus 15% of (1) (2)at normal cruising fuel consumption ,OR fly 90min at normal cruising fuel consumption, whichever is less
      if no specified alternate,
      1. fly to the destination
      2. thereafter ,fly3 hours at normal cruising fuel consumption
  • international (turbo jet, other than turbo-propeller)
  •  
    1. fly to destination , plus 10%
    2. thereafter ,fly to most distant alternate
    3. thereafter ,fly 30min at holding speed at 1500 ft over alternate
      if no specified alternate,
      1. fly to the destination
      2. thereafter ,fly 2 hours at normal cruising fuel consumption

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