Canadian RT

[AVIATROZ]

rtr help

hello all aviator mates
i just read the post .
actually i need some guidance abt rtr{p} renewal..........mine rtr is gonna expire on jan2012........
was wondering if u could guide abt the detailed process how to get it renewed to 20 yrs..........i heard that we require 30 hrs of flying in previous 3 yrs....i complete that requirement if there is any other requirement plz tell

thanks for the support and help
really appreciate

[Arrow0]

Hello guys,reading the above threads i have got the info but i am little confused with the discussions above..

My case is i am in Florida working on my IR and Commercial...Will be done with it in 1-1/2 to 2 months max.
Well i went to india after doing my PPL got thru with 2 of my exams MET and REG and gave the RT attempt.I flunked in RT...Had taken a UK RT with me....Well have many of indian friends here in my school who are going to canada after there CPL to get there CPL converted and to get the RT also.

Seeing the situation in india of the RT exams i am very sure of getting my recency confirmed...So i am also thinking of taking the canadian RT and the CPL converted...Please can anyone guide me how to start with everything because i am just left with 1 n a half more month with my course.....

Thanks alot in advance for help...Will highly appreciate it...

[Lovvy Ratra]

15 Hours for RTR(C) renewal or 30 Hours?

Hey Shanx,

You seem to be pretty clear about what RTR(A), RTR(C), and RTR(P) are... So, if you could please help me out with this, i'd really appreciate it...

I am trying to renew my RTR(C) licence which expires in Sept 2011 and i have found two different opinions on the same..


Opinion 1:


Guidelines for Renewal of Aeronautical COP Licences.

1. Application in the Form No. COP –23 duly completed is to be submitted not more than three months before the date of expiry of the Licence, alongwith the following

2. Bank Draft of Rs. 50/- drawn from STATE BANK OF INDIA in favour of “Pay & Accounts Officer (HQ), Department of Telecommunication Payable at Service Branch (Code 7687), New Delhi.

3 (i) Experience * Certificate as per proforma given below, showing details of employment during the last three years preceding the date of expiry of the licence. Photo copy of Flying logbook, duly attested by a Gazetted Officer and clearly indicating the name of person to whom it belongs is required to be furnished. A certificate from the employer is required to be produced in the case of persons engaged in the maintenance of Radio Telephone equipment in the Aeromobile Service.

Minimum Experience required:

Aeromobile:

(a) 30 hours of flying experience for CPL holders during three years preceding expiry of licence.
OR

Flying experience of 20 hours during three years preceding the expiry of licence out of which 10 hours will be during the year immediately preceding the expiry of licence.
(as applicable to P1,P2 etc)


(b) 15 hours of flying experience for Hobby flyers.

* (Attested copy of first page and relevant pages of Log Book to be enclosed for flying experience)

(ii) For RT Ground personnel: More than 3 months experience of Radio Telephony operation on the ground station either as Flight Despatcher or as Aircraft maintenance Engineer/Officer during the last 3 yrs period preceding the date of expiry of RTR (A) licence (Certificate from the employer to be enclosed, stating the name, designation, the RTR(A) certificate number, the above requisite Radio Telephony operation experience and the period of employment etc. as per the prescribed proforma,)

(iii) If the licencee does not have requisite experience he has to appear for the “Commercial Working Test” i.e. Part-I of RTR (Aero) Examination.

4. Late fee @ Rs. 15/- per 6 months or part thereof as late fee will be charged if application for Renewal is received after the date of expiry of the Licence.

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5. Licences can be renewed only within a Period of two years after the date of the expiry of the Licence with payment of late fee as mentioned at above failing which the licencee shall have to appear for commercial working test i.e. part-I of RTR(Aero) examination.

6. For Renewal of permit,(issued on the basis of foreign FRTO’s) two Passport size photographs, photocopy of permit issued earlier and licence issued by other administrations attested by a Gazetted Officer with experience as per para b(i) above, are to be submitted.


7. Logbook is required to be submitted for verification wherever called for.

8. Original licence with renewal application form need NOT be submitted.

* All the pages of Log Book are required to be signed by Licensee. Summary of Log Book is invariably signed by the licensee and countersigned by the competent authority.

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According to point number 6 above, and point b(i) above, one would need only 15 hours instead of the 30.. Anyone, please correct me if i am wrong, but this is what i understood from it. Am i correct Shanx?


Opinion 2

6) Renewal of RTR (C)
a) Application Form – COP 23 , Annexure 1-A
b) Attested copy of valid Foreign FRTOL (commonwealth countries and Philippines)
c) Experience Certificate or Attested copy of log book of flying for 30 hours in last years.
d) DD of rupees Five Thousands (5000/-) + late fess (if any)
e) Passport size photos-02 Nos.




So what is it then?? 15 hours or 30 hours??

[shrik86]

Canada RT

hello " I need Help " can you please tell me the process of getting Canadian RT . " acctuly first i have an UK rt which was converted into Indian RT only for 3 years . Now it is going to get lapes in 2012 .
Now i am planning to go to canada and get Only Canadian RT and then will give part 1 exam ... " then will i get Indian Rt for 20 years ... ??? what do you suggest .
Please help .

[shrik86]

hello " I need Help " can you please tell me the process of getting Canadian RT . " acctuly first i have an UK rt which was converted into Indian RT only for 3 years . Now it is going to get lapes in 2012 .
Now i am planning to go to canada and get Only Canadian RT and then will give part 1 exam ... " then will i get Indian Rt for 20 years ... ??? what do you suggest .
Please help .

[radical_100]

RTR (P)

I see some here have helped a lot in clarifying the difference between various classes of RTRs. Thank you for that.

Could someone post a reference which states that the foreign (commonwealth) Class-1 medicals needs to be kept current?

It seems kind of insane for any pilot in service to keep two Class 1 Medicals current (Although that's what I have been doing). About 3 years back when I went to give Part 1 & 2 in Chennai, the Part 2 examiner told me I did not need to give Part 2 at all (and I didn't pass Part 2 either), so that left me a little confused.

What I'm more concerned about now is some written reference/clarification/interpretation on whether the foreign Class 1 Medicals need to be kept current or not. My foreign CPL is valid for life, and the RT is endorsed on the PPL there.

Thank you for everyone's help.

[superdunkaroos]

foreign class 1 medical need not be current.

[radical_100]

Thanks superdrunkaroo.

Do you, by any chance, have an explanation or reference to this? My company says (obviously not in writing) that it needs to be, but they are unable to provide reference for that.

[radical_100]

Guess I misspelt your ID. Drunked the dunk! Sorry

[superdunkaroos]

Im on my mobile right now, but you can either look up WPC's website or DGCA's FRTROL requirement in the CAR's.

There is no Rule that explicitly states what you are saying.

[radical_100]

Rules

Aircraft Rules Schedule II Sections Y & Z have nothing about this requirement, it is about issue of FRTOL.

As pointed out by rig73alok in an earlier post on this thread, "Issue of RTR (Conversion) and RTR (Permit) certificates and their renewals shall be for a period of 20 years or till the validity of FRTOL licence/ CPL whichever is earlier." (Circular is dated Dec, 2008)

Now there is a need for some open clarification on this matter in writing. Do you know anyone at DGCA or WPC who will bother replying. I had written to the FID Department at DGCA seeking clarification on this, but have had no luck till date. (Both email & post)

[flyhigh07]

flight schools in Canada

Any nice schools in Canada where I can convert my FAA cpl to Canadian cpl and Canadian rt...please suggest guys

[saahilmore]

Regd Conversion Of RT

Hello guys,

I have A Canadian PPL booklet and Canadian medical and a valid Canadian RT. Will i be able to convert my canadian RT based on the above mentioned documents .. Please help . I am worried ..

[dragonmoth]

saahil more tera kuch nahi ho sakta

[stiknruddr]

saahil,

am in the same position as you and wanted to do the same.

As per the info i have obtained (from a WPC clerk and confirmed by some of the instructors who take RT classes in Delhi) :

1. We can either convert to RTR(P) without giving RT part A; but that requires us to have Canadian CPL stamped on the booklet. So this option is ruled out for now.

OR

2. We may take the part A, and convert Canadian FRTO to Indian RTR (C) on the basis of passing in part A. In this case it doesnt matter wether u have PPL, or CPL or ATPL from Canada.

your choice on how you want to proceed from here. Just sharing what I have found out. If you get any info to the contrary, pls feel free to correct me.

[turnpike007]

Regarding CANADIAN RTR

Hello Friends,

I want to know is there some recency requirement like someone needs to have 15 hrs in last 6 months for conversion of FAA CPL to CANADIAN CPL.
And please tell the exact process for conversion of FAA CPL to CANADIAN CPL.

Thanks in advance.

[stiknruddr]

@turnpike

Please refer to link below.

Conversion agreement between U.S. and Canadian officials - Transport Canada

If u have any doubts, call the contact numbers mentioned in the page or drop an email.
Transport canada will the best people to advise you and unlike Indian authorities, they are happy to help if you ask politely on the phone.


cheers

[devpadalkar]

Help

Hi
I have done my CHPL from USA and planning to do my Canadian conversion and RT from canada, is it possible i can do it in usa it self, If not can u plz guide me, my email adress [email protected]

[stiknruddr]

@devpadalkar

You need to give the air law and instrument rating written exams of transport canada (the syllabus is reduced and u need to prepare those aspects which are diff b/w the FAA and Transport Canada, study guides available on tc.gc.ca)

You can ask at ur school or call up transport canada and find out if these exams will be possible in US or are they held in Canada only.

other than that the requirments are available at the URL in my previous post above.
Please read the whole topic before posting a new querry on the same doubt and expecting someone to send the details to your inbox.

[freerunner]

@turnpike

check ur pm!!