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Old 17th Oct 2011, 12:27   #2661 (permalink)
 
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Hi Furthermathematics, have you tried calling or dropping them an email? if you log onto the application website, what does your status say?

Hi Bradz, all the best and good luck!
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Old 17th Oct 2011, 17:14   #2662 (permalink)
 
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the page says they do not have any records on file with my email address. should I re-apply? [edit] I just sent in a query regarding my application as advised. thanks! i feel so much better.

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Old 17th Oct 2011, 23:56   #2663 (permalink)
 
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Furthermathematics - I've sent you a PM
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Old 18th Oct 2011, 04:30   #2664 (permalink)


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Hello aspiring pilots..

Need some advice here. I've attended my 1st interview on 29th September. The interviewer told me during the interview that they will notify me on the result the following week but I did not receive any email. It's been 3 weeks already and I am still waiting. From what i know if a candidate is being rejected, SIA will send a rejection email on the following Monday. How accurate is this? I did not receive a rejection email but they didn't invite me for 2nd interview like what they've told me, to notify in the following week.

Should I send an email to ask them about the result? Anyone had their interview on the same day as me?
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Old 18th Oct 2011, 09:37   #2665 (permalink)
 
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@machforce You may try emailing to ask about it but usually they wont reply.

i had friends who attended the 7th oct interview together with me. on 11th oct both of them got the invitation to final interview, which is scheduled for tmw.

as for myself, i havent heard back from SIA. but like the previous posts have said, no news is good news. i'm waiting patiently while keeping my fingers crossed.
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Old 18th Oct 2011, 10:29   #2666 (permalink)
 
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@bond737 they hire on a rolling basis. feel free to apply via their website.
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Old 18th Oct 2011, 11:07   #2667 (permalink)


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And why is that so? I'm dying to know the reason.. We've be left out? And why your friends received reply so soon..... Wonder how they review the results and how they schedule candidates.
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Old 18th Oct 2011, 12:50   #2668 (permalink)
 
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@machforce well, nobody really knows. guess we just gotta be patient meanwhile.
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Old 19th Oct 2011, 08:29   #2669 (permalink)


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hello y'all

was wondering if anyone's heading for 1st interview on 21 Oct, 3pm?

i applied a couple of weeks back and they replied me within 2 working days and told me to go for the interview on the 21st. i'm a biomed sci major and i have rudimentary knowledge on planes but i know i'd love flying.

it'll be great if someone could share his experience regarding the 1st interview? i'm still in the midst of preparing what i can like reading up on current fleet status, the company's financial results, boeing vs airbus, etc. i don't know if i'm doing too much for the first interview though. lol
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Old 19th Oct 2011, 13:40   #2670 (permalink)
 
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hi jem21 - dont think its ever too much. there's just simply so much you can read up on haha. what you have done thus far is good but try to go into the technical stuff like how does the jet engine work, how does an airplane fly, yaw, roll, pitch, etc.
Also try to read up on the destinations that Singapore airlines fly to. Navigation questions seem to be common as well (e.g. where is the Philippines with reference to Singapore)
Once again, try to take it easy and most importantly, be YOURSELF. they value honesty and will not penalize you for wrong answers. more like looking for someone who has the right character and mindset and of course, a passion for aviation

Good luck and all the best!

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Old 19th Oct 2011, 14:22   #2671 (permalink)


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Interviewees!

hello interviewees!

the 1st interview was the easier one. of course like what everyone said, be honest. if you don't know, say you don't know. don't try and guess an answer or bluff.

it will be good to know some geography too. like the capitals of places you have been to, & also like those which are commonly mistaken: Switzerland, Australia and maybe New Zealand. I've also heard of a person who got asked on the flight path taken on a flight he has taken before. he bluffed though he didn't know, and he failed the interview in the end.

my technical questions on fleet, jet engine, theory of flight and winglets were almost perfectly answered, and so the interviewers starting asking me these questions:

1. Who is the Secretary-General of the United Nations
2. Do you know what has been happening in Europe?
3. Do you know what has been happening in Japan? I'm not talking about the Tsunami.

I couldn't answer any of those properly. And so the interviewer left a parting remark for me: "If you were to get to the next round of interview, you need to brush up on this area."

I got to the 2nd round.


2nd round was the hard part. 6 interviewers questioning you about everything you have/ have not done. About your passion. Reasons for wanting or of not doing some things you could have. Reason why you did not join the RSAF. How some of your results prove you might not be able to cope with flying on top of studying theory during cadet training.

They'll spare no technical questions to test whether you are really interested and really know your stuff.

Make sure you revise what you're supposed to & expected to know. Question yourself in every aspect and cover for whatever they might question you and the facts and knowledge to prove to them, especially when you have been technically trained!


Good luck. See my next post.

Zack
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Old 19th Oct 2011, 14:28   #2672 (permalink)


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SIA Cadet Pilot Selection - Best course of actions after failure?

Dear All,

I am a Singaporean fresh graduate with a Bachelor in Engineering (Aerospace Engineering) & a minor in Psychology. I had 19.2 hours of flying training with the Singapore Youth Flying Club back in JC with 0.2 hours solo flight. I have recently failed the SIA Cadet Pilot Final Interview, and I believe it was because my focus for my essay was wrong and I did not do well in the panel interview component.

I am planning on trying for the position again in a few years time. I am now working on building myself up to a better standing for the position and the selection process. However I would like to consider some advice from you and anyone else, on what are the possible courses of actions (including the career I should start with now) I could get on in working towards my next attempt, given my circumstances.


Actions which I have already taken:

1. Apply for Cathay Pacific Airlines Cadet pilot program
(Anyone knows when their recruitment in Singapore normally is?)

2. Apply for Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) -> Scheduled for COMPASS test.

3. Look for a career with other airlines as a cadet pilot
(I have not found any other than Cathay, that doesn't require us to pay for the flying licence, which I have no ability to fulfill as of now)


Courses of actions I have considered:

1. Save up and learn flying in 2 years and obtain a PPL

2. Start a career in the management with SIA

3. Start a career with the Air Force as an Air Engineer

4. Start a career in other aviation or aerospace engineering companies

5. Become an air steward (which the interviewers asked me to, as I had said I wanted SIA instead of RSAF because there will be more interactions with people being commercial)


I would like to know what's your analyses of these options and which might be the best in helping me improve my standing for SIA cadet pilot. Thank you very much for your help.

Zack

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Old 19th Oct 2011, 14:41   #2673 (permalink)


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Air Force -> Singapore Airlines?

also, does anyone know anything about how participation and subsequent failure in the air force selection and air grading might affect subsequent chances in application to Singapore Airlines as a pilot? Thanks you guys!

Zack
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Old 19th Oct 2011, 15:13   #2674 (permalink)
 
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hmm.. just giving my 2cents worth?
i did not go as far as you for the SQ interview.
But there are rumours that they may not give a 2nd chance to those who do not pass the 2nd rounds?
I hope Im wrong anyway.
Miracles do happen.

Anyway, lets assume that is the worst case scenario and if you do want to secure a flying career, do try ur best for the RSAF compass test?
There will be opportunities for you to cross over to commercial flying after ur contract ends. Maybe you should aim for fixed-wing transport aircrafts to clock fixed-wing hours to give you an even better advantage in future.

As for CX, they have already been here early this year and I guess no1 will know when they will come to SG again yet?
But you may be called up to attend the interview in HKG at ur own expenses. It will take months for them to reply to you about any call-up.

And, to sum up, I think quite a few airlines are going down the self-sponsored route? Jetstar, for instance, through CTC and Oxford.
So, I guess SIA n CX are the only cadet programmes available to Singaporeans currently.
So, yup, I think RSAF should be ur best bet if you want to start ur flying career soon.
But you must be ready for a military career cos you will be handling alot of other appointments/duties as a RSAF pilot. Flying may not be ur primary job in there.
gdluck!
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Old 20th Oct 2011, 04:59   #2675 (permalink)
 
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Why

Hi everyone.

To all the aspiring pilots,

first and foremost, ask yourself WHY you want to be a pilot. (Part of the essay anyway)
If you have difficulty convincing yourself with genuine reasons (NOT money, traveling opportunities, interaction with people from all around the world) or actions which you had done to show why you want to be a pilot, chances are that you would have a hard time convincing the panel of interviewers as well.

After this you can move on to the technical, geographical, business aspect of SIA or the industry. (Which if you have an interest in aviation, you would have roughly known already.) I dont think its possible to really know everything but you should be able to judge for yourself.

Good luck guys!
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Old 20th Oct 2011, 07:09   #2676 (permalink)
 
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flight86 - is the essay writing still part of the interview process?
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Old 20th Oct 2011, 08:26   #2677 (permalink)


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tks yannisoar & Zack-Q!

i'll be sure to post my experience here too. in the mean time, fingers crossed!
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Old 20th Oct 2011, 09:28   #2678 (permalink)
 
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Would like to know if the essay writing is still part of the interview process.

If so, when does it occur? After the 2nd interview?
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Old 20th Oct 2011, 11:04   #2679 (permalink)
 
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I had my interview in August and I still had the essay. I dont think they removed it since then? Its just 50 words but read the instructions carefully. Perhaps you guys can practise and have an answer beforehand?

That is normally the first thing you do, followed by the computer tests, interview and then the tea session.
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Old 20th Oct 2011, 12:06   #2680 (permalink)
 
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thanks flight86 for the enlightenment
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