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Old 18th Mar 2009, 15:59
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It's great to feel the enthusiasm on this thread (mostly) and for you lucky ones still doing the business. My wife is convinced that the occasional overflights along the Clyde and over my golf course at Helensburgh are my old mates paying a visit - but sadly not a bucc or a canberra amongst them
For prOOne: lucky old you. My other place is on the Algarve and there's bu**er all flying there
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Old 18th Mar 2009, 18:15
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I'm a tax payer too!

So, I would like to put my order in for some fast jet activity in the Lake District during the 2nd week of May'09.

I'll have my camera ready and waiting in hopeful anticipation!

Many Thanks..

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Old 18th Mar 2009, 19:38
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Yes, they fly over here pretty much every night (the hercs) on their way around the SW and Wales before they do their business on SPTA or Keevil.
Chinooks are frequent like the hercs, but at night i can't see anything but lights and not even that sometimes.

No idea the percentage but i reckon low flying in Devon is down a good 60% from 5 years ago. Sometimes i go several weeks without seeing a Fast Jet other than the Yeovilton Hawks... when before, it was everyday, all day.
I can't see the point of having OTA-H over Devon and Cornwall anymore because we no longer get any exercises down here or for that matter much low level flying other than the Hercs or a few Helos.
They opened up D-064 complex off St Mawgan a couple of years ago replacing the older danger areas but it hardly gets used, a few hawks each day controlled by a Seaking or "Freddie" and that is it.

Mr Gordon Brown has a lot to do with it no doubt... or the Devon countryside isn't as dramatic as mid Wales or the Lake District.
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Old 18th Mar 2009, 20:01
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Back in the days of the old low level route in the 60's and 70's you could pick a spot and given the right weather be guaranteed a continuous procession of everything based in the UK at the time, from Vulcans, through Buccs down to JP's. I remember taking my wife to Aysgarth Falls in the Yorkshire Dales, smack on the centreline of the route, supposedly to admire the view, but she became suspicious when every 5 - 10 minutes my gaze was turned upwards! I ended up on Victor tankers, where FL250 was considered low level, but I did once turn down the chance to go round the route in the back of a visiting B52. I didnt reckon my stomach was up to it that day, but I've been kicking myself ever since.
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Old 18th Mar 2009, 22:14
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If you're looking for some low-level action I recommend Carmarthen Bay holiday park just west of Kidwelly. You can sit on the veranda outside the club house bar watching Hawks etc strafe & practice bomb Pembrey sands just across the estuary. Top notch entertainment for all the family.
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Old 18th Mar 2009, 22:44
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Too true Wee Jock McPlop

Originally Posted by Wee Jock McPlop
So where were you guys? The Crieff/Comrie/Muthill area is far, far too quiet these days!
Strathearn is indeed these days a pale shadow of itself in the late 70s and 80s. Back then there was all sorts from Vulcans heading up into the glens, Phantoms almost every other day, a 'D' Flight Wessex from Leuchars heading off to pick up another daytripper in sandals and string vest from the top of a mountain, Harriers, Buccaneers, Hawks & Hercules (usually in pairs). About the only thing I never saw in the area from the then current inventory was the Lightning. Though I made up for that with Annual Camp as a spacey at RAF Binbrook in 1986
Then there was all the foreign stuff: the F-111s certainly knew how to push the low flying limits. It might be considered a mildly heretical statement but in those days they certainly seemed to be the lowest (& noisiest) of all the low fliers!
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Old 19th Mar 2009, 10:50
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Here's a reminder from last year's airshow in Wanaka NZ. Recommend you crank up the sound.

YouTube - F111 Official Warbirds Over Wanaka 2008 DVD

Simply stunning. You could actually feel the heat from the "dump and burn" in the stand. Enjoy.
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Old 19th Mar 2009, 10:57
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The only time I ever saw an F-111 jetisoning & igniting its fuel in this manner, it was in the process of crashing onto a factory car-park several miles outside Upper Heyford... Luckily no-one was injured & the crew ejected safely.
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Old 19th Mar 2009, 15:35
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One of my abiding low-level flying memories is of standing on the dam wall of a small reservoir somewhere on top of a moor in the Yorkshire Dales near Buckden, doing a spot of flyfishing. Looking down the valley I saw this F1-11 heading up the valley without a sound and it flashed overhead at minimal feet - I was then knocked over by the jet-blast and nearly fell into the water!!!!

Bloody marvellous it was!!!
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Old 19th Mar 2009, 19:47
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Mr Fawlty,

I'll have you know that string vests (ala Rab C) remain all the rage! Well in certain parts of Scotland they do

As for never seeing the mighty EE Lightning in Strathearn, that's because, (at low level) having launched from Leuchars, they would have been short of gas by the time they passed Perth westbound

Anything would be nice to drown out the sound of the local 'neds' in their 'modified' Corsas, Saxos and the like.

Jet noise, the sound of freedom. Neds noise, the sound of spotty-faced gits, with small k..bs - maybe that's a subject for Jet Blast?

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If you're looking for some low-level action I recommend Carmarthen Bay holiday park just west of Kidwelly. You can sit on the veranda outside the club house bar watching Hawks etc strafe & practice bomb Pembrey sands just across the estuary. Top notch entertainment for all the family.
Been there; on the range from 1982-1986.. So, I think I'll give the Holiday Park a miss!

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Old 19th Mar 2009, 20:32
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Well done guys, right on cue a couple of Hawks, one I'm sure was in desert cam (Warton Flt Ops perhaps) just as my partner was teeing off. He spooned it, I won the hole and the beer/
Thanks for the PM's.
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Old 19th Mar 2009, 21:01
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I would also love to see a few low level lads and lasses, however I think I live in a LL aviodance area (Brighton & Hove area). Although the odd jet may wander down the English channel I live in a flat looking west. (mutter, mutter)
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Old 20th Mar 2009, 12:09
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Another request for some low flying over Teesside area, ive seen a few Typhoons fooling about over the river tees before and also on tuesday we had an E3D making approaches to Teesside airport. We get the odd sea king come over and chinooks but i used to watch the chinooks alot when i was fishing down the river and the odd fast jet come past so, could we please have some more.

Thanks
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Old 20th Mar 2009, 16:38
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Well, yesterday (Thursday) was a really nice day, sunshine, blue skies, slight breeze...

Also quite a lot of activity over this part of West Cumberland...but although I could hear them I couldn't see them!

Although loverly blue sky above, horizontal viz was very, very hazy.

Couldn't even see the one that went over about 20:00-ish

But thanks for trying chaps !
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Old 21st Mar 2009, 16:49
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2 Lynx and a Gazelle over my house at 1643 today!

Good to see you, boys and girls - don't forget the position: 53 32' 21.64"N 1 23' 29.64"W

Keep them interested!
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Old 23rd Mar 2009, 09:54
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Someone was earning there pay! Sunday at 11Pm Chinook Low over my place.
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Old 23rd Mar 2009, 12:13
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I dont beleive it!! Here too!
21.27 Z a Chinook nearly had it away with my TV ariel at 52.3810 03.9474 heading NE .
Sunday eve chaps?? Made my night- Nice one!
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Old 23rd Mar 2009, 13:36
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To all,

Cant we all start a petition to No 10 on here, with all of us agreeing to the low,very low,ultra low level, pilot identifyingly low dicipline, needed by our brave and heroic pilots/aircrew so we can provide areas where the majority want to see this phenominan happening and therefore where the aircrew can happlily plot a route at low level without having to worry about Mrs Miggins tea room china being ever so slightly rattled as you thunder within 5 miles!!!

All else fails we should have a mass bundle in a field between the people who like it and the poo bars who dont like noise of any sort!!

Coley.
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Old 23rd Mar 2009, 14:28
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Just heard what I thought was a Wokka, went out to wave and bugga me a Ka-26 Helix plodded over heading roughly Odiham/Farnborough wards.
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