cede21

I went there mid-end February and still waiting...

jonjon

End of Feb...

But...

I doubt it means that much really: we all have different profiles and they seem to pick people of out the pool according to specific criterias, length in the pool probably only a factor when people have similar profiles...

On our end, feels like lottery!! Who's next? You will know by watching the next episode right here, on the prune...

archer_737

PSP 1 in early March. Dubai PSP 3 in early May.

Same opinion as above, not a matter of time in he pool, I guess is all about experience, type and probably our score in the tests.

Good luck!

mikypmi

Mine was at the beginning of April..all process was at Dxb

Al Murdoch

The situation is this (just so people don't have to ask the same questions):
Hold pool is based on your final interview date and runs from Feb to April (roughly - the mid point of the hold pool in terms of numbers is mid-March). All airbus courses are now filled for the rest of the year (financial year). A number of people have been fished out of the pool to start in the next few months (777 and A330) but these are people who are not currently flying. There are (or were) roughly 150 pilots in the hold pool, most or all of whom are FOs.
The next 777 course is due to be held in Jan 13 and people will be selected for the next course based on their interview date only.
If there is anything inaccurate there - please feel free to correct me.

archer_737

Al Murdoch

Pool runs from Feb to July. I assessed early May and know people who went there early this month.

That's not correct. In the last EK email they clearly said that the last 24 guys were joining the 330 and all coming from airbus. Nothing about flying or not nowadays (actualy I know a guy with a current job in 320 joining EK 330 this month or next one)
I would say that being or not flying now means nothing to this as I am unemployed and did not get the job yet. In the other side, date of joining the pool means nothing too, as a couple of guys from the May interviews joined EK passing in front of Feb people (Airbus experienced).

Al Murdoch

Sorry - yes, that's correct.

Jetstreamer1

Archer,

I was accessed early may too. I believe i was one of the last groups to go through, so I dont think any FO's were accessed after may.

bigdaviet

All the evidence that I've seen is that people are being offered courses according to their assessment date. The only exceptions have been:

1) unemployed candidates getting priority for cancellations; and

2) airbus rated folks given priority as they are the only ones legible for CCQs.

This is also what they stated in the most recent email.

archer_737

Bigdaviet

Not sure about the unemployed people. And did not see any info regarding this on their last email.

Actually, what they told me in a private email was to try to find a contract job. According to the HR woman I talked to being unemployed and accordingly non current "may work against me in the near future".

Orvilles dad

I posted earlier (see #89) about young Orville.

I wonder if his experiences can help clarify what is happening in the hold pool.

Orville is an A320 FO who interviewed in March in DXB. He has just over the minimum hours, so obviously no command experience and is currently employed and flying in Europe.

He is also one of the 24 who got pulled out of the pool this past week.

So a few things come to mind:

1. if there were 140/150 guys in the Hold Pool, then it would seem sensible that there would be roughly similar numbers of Airbus and Boeing drivers. So selecting 24 Airbus guys implies that maybe over 40 Airbus guys were left in the pool.

2. Based on Orville, there doesn't seem to be a bias towards unemployed guys as he is working.

3. Again, they don't seem to mind taking guys with lowish hours or without command experience.

For what its worth, this implies to me that there is a selection process to whittle down the numbers from maybe 70 ish (i.e. 50% of the hold pool) to the 24 they chose. The selection process doesn't look to be hours based (i.e. having lots of hours doesn't seem to count) and being unemployed also doesn't seem to count a great deal.

For the Airbus, they obviously would choose guys capable of putting on a CCQ course - but assuming most Airbus guys could be put on that course, there must be a further method of choosing the final 24.

What's left? Well, it could be completely random - "Congrats, you won the Lottery" - but somehow, I don't think that is the way they do it.

Seems to me the only thing left is they use a selection process based on how well you did in the tests, and particularly in the sim. They deliberately didn't give a sim in a type you were familiar with, in order to make the session that much more difficult - but also to test how you handle adversity and unusual conditions. My suspicion is that provided you tick all the other boxes, they probably select based on your sim session and test scores.

Just my 2 cents worth.

OD

archer_737

Orvilles dad

I can't tell what happened to the guys in other assessments but in mine everyone was given the closest sim to his type as possible, to know:

2 airbus (320 and 340) guys were given 320 sim
Guys flying MD, 767 and some other EFIS type were given a300 sim.
Guys flying 737, 747 and some other glass cockpit were given 777-200 (including me).

bringbackthe80s

previous company counts a lot in my opinion

170to5

Well I'm on the Airbus (got the call for the CCQ last week...) and I flew a 737 on selection!

I hate 737s as a result.

Orvilles dad

170to5

Ditto for Orville - to both your comments!

OD - future EK ID90 user!

groundtoflightdeck

It's just a quick slow down until spring 2013. They are still recruiting...

upwhereIbelong

same here in the qatar pool

Jetaim

Does your son latches his shoes by him self? Are you going to accompany him in his Indian night turn arounds? I think that might have an impact on the EK decision
ID 90 user..ah ah ah!!! Yeah.. right the last Kerala beggar will have priority on you! Start discovering!

170to5

Jetaim

You're a complete arse.

That is all.

Orvilles dad

Jetaim - I took the opportunity to review all your 116 posts earlier today. I didn't find a single one where you were in any way helpful to any poster - you seem to do nothing but pour vitriol on any posts and generally fling around insults.

Fine, if that is your personality, then have fun - as they say, it takes all kinds - including jerks who get their jollies by insulting others.

Unlike you, Orvillle got into EK - in fact, he was still short of their minimum when he did his interviews in DXB in the Spring. I posted because I happen to think that his experiences might just help others - clearly, you don't necessarily need tons of hours if you prepare yourself well for the interviews and sim.

My post was in no way gloating - just trying to pass on information to others in the hold pool about how it went for him and,maybe, provide a little bit of help or encouragement to those guys still in the pool.

I'm sorry if that simple act of trying to help others offends you so much that you feel the need to insult me. You are a very sad person.

OD