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Old 10th May 2008, 19:20   #1 (permalink)

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Cool One eye pulsing with heartbeat.... a bit worried

OKies... I know I may be worrying over nothing and I have made an app to see my GP (next Friday) but was just wondering if anyone could give insight in to what might be occurring here!

About three weeks ago, while walking the dog, I noticed that every time i looked left there were flashing lights in an arc on the RH side of my right eye. It was quite a sunny day and I do wear specs so I just thought it was something to do with light/reflection etc. The arc-ing continued and persisted overnight and for the next days... during this time my eye was watering and seemed to have a lot of floaters (I have seen some over the years but never like this - it was like a flock of birds!!)... then over the next few days these disappeared leaving behind a large floater in the centre of my field of vision (I flick my eye to the right to clear it) and an awareness of the eye pulsing with my heartbeat (not all the time but when I do something to increase blood pressure!) ... it is most unsettling. The eye feels as if it needs to be de-coked - taken out of socket and cleaned... but the vision is fine (apart from ye floater)... and there is a sense of discomfort. No gunk, no discharge and the watering has stopped.

As many of you know I have kinda-sorta been through the mill since a general anaesthetic induced parkinsonism in March 2006 so... I really don't want this to be an issue.

I have made an app with my GP for next Friday but was wondering if a fellow Prooner might cast a light on what might be happening here? I am, natch, open to any and all suggestions!!

Thanks in advance for replies.
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Hi bs, on the face of it nothing too worrying, but I'd get checked pronto, just to rule out a retina detaching, or something else that can be sorted early.

Generally "arcing" is a symptom that needs looking at soonish rather than laterish.

If caught early, easilly repaired, I'd probably give the gp a miss unless you can get seen and refered early. An optician/eye hospital (in the uk) may be a quicker route.

Keep us informed.
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Old 10th May 2008, 21:19   #3 (permalink)
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Might even be something as simple as tree pollen fever?

Lots of it about at the moment and produces some peculiar effects.
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Old 12th May 2008, 04:45   #4 (permalink)
 
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Gingernut - Good advice!
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Thanks for that. Although it's probably a bit unprofessional and unproductive to swear on here, I feel the need.


Don't about with your eyesight. If you're seeing flashing lights and arcs, go and see an ophthalmologist. Now.

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Old 12th May 2008, 09:09   #6 (permalink)
 
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I would absolutely back up Gingernut's advice. Some hospitals have a specialist "eye casualty" unit (my local one has). Don't hang about - if they take a look and say "No worries, nothing wrong" you've wasted a couple of hours, but if it's something more serious the earlier it's diagnosed, the better the chance of successful treatment. Go on, pick up the phone....
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Old 12th May 2008, 09:32   #7 (permalink)
 
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Your description bears some resemblance to something I encountered a few months ago but without 'floaters'. It might be worth your while to check your blood pressure. Specifically Systolic.

Best Wishes
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Old 12th May 2008, 10:28   #8 (permalink)
 
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Go straight to eye casualty. You may have to wait a while but you'll almost certainly see a specialist who will examine your eye there and then.

I recently had an epsiode of flashing lights and many more floaters than usual. Went to the eye clinic and was diagnosed with Posterior Viscous Detachment - it's when the jelly in your eye becomes more liquid with age and starts to detach itself from the inside of the eyeball. There's no cure, the lights and floaters gradually subside and vision is hardly effected. What they watch out for is detachment of the retina as the jelly pulls away from the back of the eye. I had two consultations and that was that. My vison has not been impaired and I was warned that the other eye will probably do the same.

I'm 63 and retired so do not know how this would be viewed from a licence point of view but I imagine it would cause no problems once detachment was completed.
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Old 12th May 2008, 13:48   #9 (permalink)
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Do go to the specialist, but search all my stuff on PVD

The odds are that you will not have to do anything at all but take it easy with rapid eye movements, like driving in heavy traffic.

Statistically at 70 years of age, 90% of the population have some vitrious detatchment. (I find this hard to believe.)

After seeing an eye sergeon, DON'T rush to have a vitrectomy, the flashing will probably have long gone, and the floaters either go, or you learn to see past them.

I very much regret having sea-water replacing my vitrious humour, it's a poor UV filter and the process causes a high risk of cataract...as I found to my cost.
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Old 17th May 2008, 16:49   #10 (permalink)

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Hi all

Thank you very much to those who replied. I saw my GP yesterday and have been referred to an opthalmologist who, due to my company's private health scheme (I remain technically employed although on long-term disability due to the parky thing) I will see next Friday at 9 a.m. The GP didn't see owt wrong when he initially checked my eye - Heathrow Director the symptoms are easing as you experienced The pulsing sensation remains, a few large clompy floaters are interfering with vision, the eye/socket feels uncomfortable and the eye watered like a watering thing when out in a light breeze with the hound this morning.

Hopefully it is nothing too dramatic - just probably an aging thing happening to me a tad early thanks to the parky bo11ox!!

I really do appreciate the feedback from y'all.. and, if its not too narcissistic, will let you know how I get on next week.
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Old 23rd May 2008, 16:54   #11 (permalink)

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Here's the update. T'was a PVD ..although the pulsing is not part of that, nor is the sense of oddness about the eye socket but the specialist and I both agreed that as I am fairly highly strung (parky doesnt help!) these symptoms may just be part of the "psychological effects of eye problems"! Anyway I am to go back in 6 weeks and if the pulsing effect is continuing then maybe a scan will be recommended just to check it out. The giant floater (which I am beginning to think should have a name) that obscures my central field of vision should also dissipate over time.. quite a time! So in the meantime when I want to look closely or focus at something I just have to flick my eye to one side to dislodge the floater!!

Apparently folks with short sight over the age of 40 are prone to PVD... the vitreous humour is different than in non-myopic types... so the same thing may happen with my left eye. Once "done" a pvd doesn't reoccur although the fact it has occurred may have increased the probabilities for retinal hole/tear/detachment at a later date.

Heathrow Director and Loose Rivets - well diagnosed!!

Loose Rivets you mention your stuff on pvd? is that posted on PPRuNe.. I did a search but couldn't find anything?

Anyway, just wanted to thank y'all again for your advice!

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Old 23rd May 2008, 18:31   #12 (permalink)
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Apparently folks with short sight over the age of 40 are prone to PVD...


Couldn't agree more......... my own story tallies entirely ! Age 62, myopic ++ without glasses, specialist diagnosed PVD in one eye about 18 months ago. Once reassured I can live with it happily, it's not got any worse, and actually gets a bit better now and then. Still working, still driving, still flying.

The important message here is that it needs a specialist, with the right equipment, to diagnose it with safety and confidence !
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Old 24th Mar 2009, 21:08   #13 (permalink)
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Hi there, I know a lot of time has passed since this topic about eye problems but I'm really worried about my eye and I'm hoping you're still on this forum to let me know how you got on.

I've been experiencing a pulse which goes along with my heartbeat in my left eye, I've had it for about 8/9 months now and although I've been told there's nothing wrong with my eyes by an optician I'm still concerned as to why I have this feeling. You mentioned that you might have had to go for a scan after 6 months, did you? If so can you please let me know the outcome and if you still experience this pulse yourself?
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 02:16   #14 (permalink)
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woos Do you see this effect, or is it felt as a kind of pressure?



I have no idea why the search system fails to find PVD. It's there loud and clear in many of my postings on the subject. However, posterior seems to find them.

For people with Posterior Vitrious Detachment, the first thing is, don't worry. Do get it looked at by a consultant surgeon. Only someone of this standing can make the executive decision as to the pulling on the back of the eye. The The vitreous humour Wikki says: (British spelling) or vitreous humor (US spelling) is the clear gel that fills the space between the lens and the retina of the eyeball.

As I gather, the gel is in a 'membrane like' bag. It is attached by all too few points, one of them being near the optic nerve/blood supply's inlet to the eye. This is where the skill comes in...is it pulling at a delicate point?

It not quite clear what causes the flashing. (3 years ago) but if this subsides, and there is not too much grot - blood/ debris floating about in front of one's vision, then better not intervene.

There is always the escape route of a Vitrectomy if things get tacky. However, be prepared for a cataract as a result of the surgery.

There was a paper published by a US (I think) surgeon, who claimed that introducing the saline replacement fluid by a new route, stopped the rapid onset cataract. I have no knowledge of the validity of this claim. All I know is that I had a nuclear cataract, just about the time I got beautiful - 20/15 vision, back in the repaired eye. Caused more grief than the PVD because of the mulit-lensing the brain goes into, while trying to see round the centre obstruction.

The vitreous gel is an astonishing organ. Much, much more complex than people realize. It is also a fantastic UV filter. Looking at a UV source with one eye and then the other, is chalk and cheese.

One has to take care of an eye that is not UV protected.
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 08:39   #15 (permalink)

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Hi woosmummy

Sorry to hear you have the ole pulsing eye thing. I was referred for a scan but it never happened because the second specialist, after checking my eyes again and checking neck pulses etc, decided there was no reason to do it.

I was somewhat cross after waiting several months for nothing to happen but my first guy, one of the senior consultants at the regional hospital, reassured me that it really is probably just a question of my having become sensitive to eye issues because of the PVD and advised me to learn to ignore the pulse.

Following this I did my best to not pay attention to the pulsing and have been quite successful although when my bp raises or alters (my parkinson's medication has a bit of an effect on this) I am aware that it is still there.

I remain reassured however because (1) there have been no other symptoms (2) problems with eyes tend to evolve rapidly rather than slowly and a lot of time has now passed without further problems (3) I know my family Dr would refer me again to the specialist if I felt it necessary.

Hope this helps
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 13:26   #16 (permalink)
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I dont have any other eye problems apart from this pulse that I feel, I started to get floaters in my left eye which was why I went for the eye test but I was told my eyes look healthy and there were no issues with them. The optician said the pulsing may be down to stress (I am a very anxious person so I wouldnt be surprised) but it's really annoying not being given a definite answer as to why I can feel my pulse.

It's only in my left eye and it's usually if my pulse quickens but I can sometimes notice it when I'm sitting down. I feel the pulse (which is in time with my heartbeat) in my left eye and when I look to the left or right I can see it in my eye. It's really weird. I know by looking through these types of forums that it is something that other people experience too and most of them put it down to stress and anxiety but I've yet to read a definite reason for it and it's unsettling not knowing for sure what it is.

Maybe I just need to stop thinking about it and learn to ignore it as brockenspectre has learnt to do...
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