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Old 20th Jul 2014, 12:38
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'Some people validate... good looking or just lucky'.


Blimey! I've been rumbled .


Anyway it was all 'Window job's' fault at LL, can't blame him for my other units .
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Old 20th Jul 2014, 14:15
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I seem to remember when Airwork got the contract at Boscombe Down, not a single Airwork controller (5?) was considered ready for validation on changeover day even though every effort was made to train them and one or two of the NATS controllers changed sides.
I can envisage the same happening at Gatwick if DFS bring in their own controllers.
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Old 20th Jul 2014, 14:37
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Birmingham drops Nats

I understand that the pre-PPP guys are guaranteed alternative employment within NATS, but as more contracts are lost, is there going to be space within the company? Does anybody know how many BB guys got reposted to other airfields?
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Old 20th Jul 2014, 20:00
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At least one went from BB to KK....
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Old 22nd Jul 2014, 22:08
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Birmingham drops Nats

Anyone know what kind of salaries EGBB are offering to the new guys?
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Old 26th Jul 2014, 09:35
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Talking BRUM

Salaries vary depending on experience etc. Some NATS people at other Units resigned to come to Brum and work for BAATL and get the location they wanted. They have recruited all they wanted and all have a full setoff licenses. All Pre PPP people got a sensible offer to move if they wanted and others have applied elsewhere if they wish to move. Controllers are still moving to Gatwick as planned but will now work for DFS from next Oct. Fact. All TUPE NATS staff seem to be well catered for but the transition will rely on borrowing staff back from NATS or it will not work!
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Old 26th Jul 2014, 10:00
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How to you borrow staff back, and for how long?who are those staff actually working for? Ie who pays there wages?

Where do those staff go after their 'loan' period has finished?

Do NATS charge BAATL a large fee per controller borrowed? Or do they not need controlling staff?

Very interesting questions, and a obviously a tricky situation.
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Old 27th Jul 2014, 11:34
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At least two are being posted to EGGD (trust of a promise)
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Old 31st Mar 2015, 17:38
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My mate down the pub says tomorrow is the big day, buh buy NATS and let the BAATL commence.
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 06:32
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All done and dusted

It looks like the transition has happened as planned from end March, no dramas and setting a precedent for other airports. All credit to the planners.

Will be interesting to see who next, and how NATS react in an effort to retain their business.
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