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I know it will never be good enough for some, but give them their due they are trying, there has been the Piers the Prat Morgan thing, they also got a mention on Radio 5 with the photos of where is Falcao. Also there has been mentions of flights.
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Cargo contracts now out for Hainan Airlines:
''we are pleased to announce up to 300,000kg of weekly cargo space on the new 4 weekly A330-200 on Hainan Airline (HU) direct from Beijing to Manchester from 12th May 2015''
Im on my phone at the moment so will try and link a site when i get access to a desktop computer.
''we are pleased to announce up to 300,000kg of weekly cargo space on the new 4 weekly A330-200 on Hainan Airline (HU) direct from Beijing to Manchester from 12th May 2015''
Im on my phone at the moment so will try and link a site when i get access to a desktop computer.
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I know it will never be good enough for some, but give them their due they are trying...
Trying ?
Hang on before we get too euphoric this isn't primary school !
This is a high profile , "corporate" organisation, very savvy with hopefully bags of manipulative nous.....
worth remembering lest ...."some" forget !
Trying ?
Hang on before we get too euphoric this isn't primary school !
This is a high profile , "corporate" organisation, very savvy with hopefully bags of manipulative nous.....
worth remembering lest ...."some" forget !
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trying ... to engage with people... trying to get attention ..
The thing with twitter is, as I am learning in my business, is the straight forward 'advertorial' style isn't always the right tack.
I am told by people who know, is you have to engage, create a discussion, which is what they have done of late, so well done.
The thing with twitter is, as I am learning in my business, is the straight forward 'advertorial' style isn't always the right tack.
I am told by people who know, is you have to engage, create a discussion, which is what they have done of late, so well done.
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Ryanair only have Dublin, Edinburgh, Glasgow (Intl and Prestwick) and London Stansted on sale for Summer 2015 at the moment.
Hainan's last foray into the UK at Gatwick as Hong Kong Airlines was a mistake on every level, this one should be more succesful if it comes off.
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Back to to airlines, looks very positive we will get good news on the Beijing flight pretty soon then, certainly will be using that service when I can.
SOE was the Gatwick-HKG flight not business only, which I am sure you would be the first to tell us is a completely different animal.
SOE was the Gatwick-HKG flight not business only, which I am sure you would be the first to tell us is a completely different animal.
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On the day Boris Island was rejected the internet was awash with PR put out by STN, in terms of a major master plan for developing Stansted.
Whilst it did not get any airtime on BBC who rightly or wrongly cannot see beyond Heathrow or Gatwick , well done Andrew Harrison for some adept marketing guile.
Reading the script however was more worrying as this points at a £260m investment plan to develop STN over the next 5 years.
This is worth investigating, whilst there is an £800m investment in "Manchester Airport" this appears to be specifically on Airport City and the peripheral areas, whilst welcome it does not appear to be on Terminals, Taxiways, Aprons, Piers etc ?
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On a second point it has been suggested that a few of us on here see our cup as half empty,
Maybe, but being realistic 8 months ago it was very much a case of onward and upward, Cathay had been announced, USAir, Rouge, Flynas etc
increases on US carriers for summer , then came The Thomas Cook rumours......all jolly good news !
Since then ?
Hainan, if true fantastic, but as with Cathay and Saudia, they do need filling, just parachuting in a new service without some tactical changes to passenger flows not just from Gtr Manchester but across the whole catchment area is risky.
To me at leas,t somehow the airport need to generate that "LHR connectivity WOW Factor" !
You sometimes get the impression that Manchester "The City" props up all these services because "primarily" although not exclusively, that's where the publicity normally resides.
The BBC Angle as above
"LHR serves the UK"
"Manchester serves ....well Manchester."
But what else has happened ?
FlyNas...no comment
The great news about the new US flight to Charlotte was tempered by a reduction in another, is the market so small that we are reduced to simply moving a very limited number of pax around on a chess board. If as Skip originally suggested Charlotte goes, where does that leave Philly given the numbers have since diminished..... ironically as a direct result of the new Charlotte service ?
Chicago - a 30 year old service now effectively reduced to seasonal without a by or leave, does The North only trade with the United States in Summer !
Egytpair..... it stutters on, maybe bilateral agreements will get resolved now Whitehall is back from its hols, there again it's not London and nobody is seemingly banging on the door with any ferocity so maybe we sit on our hands for another month or two....by then it might be a distant memory another carrier gone !
Aer Lingus - retraction of a good commuter filler 3 a day - shifting yet more capacity to Dublin, but worse , at the same time EI announcing LBA - Dub - > USA.
Dublin eating away at the margins as they prosper from pre-clearance/APD or lack of ! I suspect the Airport Authority cannot believe their good fortune re APD its effect on Manchester ......and our Chancellor !
And now Scotland awaits, even if they do not get independence the margins are so tight they will benefit, AND if scrapping APD is given as an option rest assured they will grasp it.
Trains (sorry), if Manchester has aspirations about connectivity and an Airport City these should be massively expanded not reduced, but again nobody seems able to challenge these decisions let alone campaign against them , they just, well happen... the towns they effect are vocal but what about the Airport, vociferous enough ?
Of course its not all bad news far from it , 6% increase in traffic, (as economy improves), Metrolink opening early, AND YES I do focus on failure not success ?
BUT I don't want this silent arrogance that we can lose US routes, Cairo, or indeed a reduction to trains links outside the coverage of the M.E.N. without some real fight that we did our absolute damnedest to retain ALL of them, so yes maybe my cup is half full !
Cheers
Whilst it did not get any airtime on BBC who rightly or wrongly cannot see beyond Heathrow or Gatwick , well done Andrew Harrison for some adept marketing guile.
Reading the script however was more worrying as this points at a £260m investment plan to develop STN over the next 5 years.
This is worth investigating, whilst there is an £800m investment in "Manchester Airport" this appears to be specifically on Airport City and the peripheral areas, whilst welcome it does not appear to be on Terminals, Taxiways, Aprons, Piers etc ?
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On a second point it has been suggested that a few of us on here see our cup as half empty,
Maybe, but being realistic 8 months ago it was very much a case of onward and upward, Cathay had been announced, USAir, Rouge, Flynas etc
increases on US carriers for summer , then came The Thomas Cook rumours......all jolly good news !
Since then ?
Hainan, if true fantastic, but as with Cathay and Saudia, they do need filling, just parachuting in a new service without some tactical changes to passenger flows not just from Gtr Manchester but across the whole catchment area is risky.
To me at leas,t somehow the airport need to generate that "LHR connectivity WOW Factor" !
You sometimes get the impression that Manchester "The City" props up all these services because "primarily" although not exclusively, that's where the publicity normally resides.
The BBC Angle as above
"LHR serves the UK"
"Manchester serves ....well Manchester."
But what else has happened ?
FlyNas...no comment
The great news about the new US flight to Charlotte was tempered by a reduction in another, is the market so small that we are reduced to simply moving a very limited number of pax around on a chess board. If as Skip originally suggested Charlotte goes, where does that leave Philly given the numbers have since diminished..... ironically as a direct result of the new Charlotte service ?
Chicago - a 30 year old service now effectively reduced to seasonal without a by or leave, does The North only trade with the United States in Summer !
Egytpair..... it stutters on, maybe bilateral agreements will get resolved now Whitehall is back from its hols, there again it's not London and nobody is seemingly banging on the door with any ferocity so maybe we sit on our hands for another month or two....by then it might be a distant memory another carrier gone !
Aer Lingus - retraction of a good commuter filler 3 a day - shifting yet more capacity to Dublin, but worse , at the same time EI announcing LBA - Dub - > USA.
Dublin eating away at the margins as they prosper from pre-clearance/APD or lack of ! I suspect the Airport Authority cannot believe their good fortune re APD its effect on Manchester ......and our Chancellor !
And now Scotland awaits, even if they do not get independence the margins are so tight they will benefit, AND if scrapping APD is given as an option rest assured they will grasp it.
Trains (sorry), if Manchester has aspirations about connectivity and an Airport City these should be massively expanded not reduced, but again nobody seems able to challenge these decisions let alone campaign against them , they just, well happen... the towns they effect are vocal but what about the Airport, vociferous enough ?
Of course its not all bad news far from it , 6% increase in traffic, (as economy improves), Metrolink opening early, AND YES I do focus on failure not success ?
BUT I don't want this silent arrogance that we can lose US routes, Cairo, or indeed a reduction to trains links outside the coverage of the M.E.N. without some real fight that we did our absolute damnedest to retain ALL of them, so yes maybe my cup is half full !
Cheers
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Major changes at Virgin Atlantic announced today.
LHR-BOM/CPT/YVR and NRT cut.
But:
VS to take over MAN-ATL from Delta (confirmed), and very distinct possibility of MAN-JFK (not confirmed yet). 2xbased B747 2xbased A330-200 for Summer 2015.
Honestly didn't see that one coming! Hopefully this could see a new direction for Virgin where Manchester is not see solely as a leisure B747 base.
It will be sad to see Delta leave Manchester, but, I wonder if this frees up a frame for the long rumoured Detroit flights?
LHR-BOM/CPT/YVR and NRT cut.
But:
VS to take over MAN-ATL from Delta (confirmed), and very distinct possibility of MAN-JFK (not confirmed yet). 2xbased B747 2xbased A330-200 for Summer 2015.
Honestly didn't see that one coming! Hopefully this could see a new direction for Virgin where Manchester is not see solely as a leisure B747 base.
It will be sad to see Delta leave Manchester, but, I wonder if this frees up a frame for the long rumoured Detroit flights?
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Delta to JFK now confirmed:
Network changes | Virgin Atlantic
A transfer of operations with joint venture partner Delta Air Lines that will see Virgin Atlantic fly a daily service between Manchester and Atlanta and Delta fly one of Virgin Atlantic’s existing London Heathrow to Newark services**. Across the joint venture, Virgin Atlantic and Delta Air Lines will now offer ten daily services from London to the New York area.
In addition, Delta Air Lines will launch a new daily service between Manchester and New York JFK in Summer 2015.
Network changes | Virgin Atlantic
A transfer of operations with joint venture partner Delta Air Lines that will see Virgin Atlantic fly a daily service between Manchester and Atlanta and Delta fly one of Virgin Atlantic’s existing London Heathrow to Newark services**. Across the joint venture, Virgin Atlantic and Delta Air Lines will now offer ten daily services from London to the New York area.
In addition, Delta Air Lines will launch a new daily service between Manchester and New York JFK in Summer 2015.
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Thats great news with 2 extra A330 based at MAN and now a new Delta JFK flight. So Delta still serving MAN is again great news plus Virgin.
2 new based A330? Do we know of what the 2nd aircraft may be used for? Presuming 1 will be for the Atlanta flight.
2 new based A330? Do we know of what the 2nd aircraft may be used for? Presuming 1 will be for the Atlanta flight.
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Im not sure what the 2nd A330 is used for, unless the announcement was a bit muffled and a 2nd A330 operates at MAN when GLA-LAS and BFS-MCO run on the B747? (so technically correct even if they are not all based at the same time)
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In addition, Delta Air Lines will launch a new daily service between Manchester and New York JFK in Summer 2015.