Aer Lingus Regional
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I was in MAN waiting for the ORK flight (on time, as was SNN) when that flight was delayed.
I can understand that it might be annoying, but the same thing happens on EI mainline. I have memories of booking the 9:30pm flight from Heathrow to Dublin rather than the 10:15pm one because public transport to my apartment would still be running when that one landed. Of course, the 9:30pm flight left at 11pm and the 10:15pm left at 10:15pm.
What I would say is that I'm not sure about mixing the provider on the same route. When there are different hand baggage limits and the like, it potentially creates all sorts of problems, such as when someone finds that the limit for coming back is lower than for going out. The value of customer relations are a lot harder to quantify than operational efficiency.
I can understand that it might be annoying, but the same thing happens on EI mainline. I have memories of booking the 9:30pm flight from Heathrow to Dublin rather than the 10:15pm one because public transport to my apartment would still be running when that one landed. Of course, the 9:30pm flight left at 11pm and the 10:15pm left at 10:15pm.
What I would say is that I'm not sure about mixing the provider on the same route. When there are different hand baggage limits and the like, it potentially creates all sorts of problems, such as when someone finds that the limit for coming back is lower than for going out. The value of customer relations are a lot harder to quantify than operational efficiency.
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If only people took time to read the confirmation it should reveal all. When you book online it even tells you which aircraft type and whether or not Aer Lingus or Aer Lingus Regional will operate the flight.
(Of course could become difficult if a TMC has booked your flight however you should still get a copy of the booking confirmation to check it over).
(Of course could become difficult if a TMC has booked your flight however you should still get a copy of the booking confirmation to check it over).
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Airbourne, I do like EIR believe it or not and are probably one of their most regular PAX.
To me, the 500s & 600s are very nice A/C that provide a PAX experience to that of a regional jet. They are well presented, look modern inside and you can hear to hold a conversation in them.
The old birds really are a long way from this. T3 offer earplugs when flying on their Jetstream A/C, an aircraft that is much quieter than these old ATRs. Having learnt that, I carry my own earplugs as I have had many a headache riding on them (depending where sat). Can't imagine they do the crews hearing any good over a prolonged period.
My point is that I think the new ATR and A320s can work. I just think the gulf in quality between an A320 and a 20+ year old ATR on the same route will have a negative effect. No matter what A/C you are on, the general public believe they are flying with EI. With FR competing on both of these routes, I bet there is a few wonder why they are paying the premium for EI and then having an hour of hell on an old ATR.
Shouldn't they have waited for the 600s to be operational and then tackle this rather than running before they walk.
To me, the 500s & 600s are very nice A/C that provide a PAX experience to that of a regional jet. They are well presented, look modern inside and you can hear to hold a conversation in them.
The old birds really are a long way from this. T3 offer earplugs when flying on their Jetstream A/C, an aircraft that is much quieter than these old ATRs. Having learnt that, I carry my own earplugs as I have had many a headache riding on them (depending where sat). Can't imagine they do the crews hearing any good over a prolonged period.
My point is that I think the new ATR and A320s can work. I just think the gulf in quality between an A320 and a 20+ year old ATR on the same route will have a negative effect. No matter what A/C you are on, the general public believe they are flying with EI. With FR competing on both of these routes, I bet there is a few wonder why they are paying the premium for EI and then having an hour of hell on an old ATR.
Shouldn't they have waited for the 600s to be operational and then tackle this rather than running before they walk.
Have SNN and ORK crews completed training yet?
bigjim99, A Jetstream that is much quieter than an old ATR!? Are you having a laugh?????
I do not think you will find an aircraft being much more noisy than a J31 or J41! I have flown both Jetstream and ATR all models (except the -600) and the ATR is by far the quietest of them.
I do not think you will find an aircraft being much more noisy than a J31 or J41! I have flown both Jetstream and ATR all models (except the -600) and the ATR is by far the quietest of them.
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I'm intrigued, how can you think one is louder than the other if you have only flown the Jetstream?
I have flown in both many times in various seats. The Jetstreams make it difficult to have a conversation without raising your voice, the ATR meanwhile is pleasant and much quieter.
I have flown in both many times in various seats. The Jetstreams make it difficult to have a conversation without raising your voice, the ATR meanwhile is pleasant and much quieter.
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Strike? The EI disease is spreading and that's the main reason I hope FR never get to take them over.
Was sent this youtube link this morning. Looks like a good decision to G/A
ATR-72 TAILSTRIKE & GO-AROUND - BHX - YouTube
Was sent this youtube link this morning. Looks like a good decision to G/A
ATR-72 TAILSTRIKE & GO-AROUND - BHX - YouTube
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Looks like all staff will be put on protective notice if this is not resolved soon, not good for a company who neary went under 2 years ago.
They will lose Aer Lingus customers over this strike notice....just when they were turning the corner on there path to survive,new aircraft/ routes and jobs on offer due expansion,this could be all over if this is not sorted soon
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They will lose Aer Lingus customers over this strike notice....just when they were turning the corner on there path to survive,new aircraft/ routes and jobs on offer due expansion,this could be all over if this is not sorted soon
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RE surely have a service level agreement with EI, so potential disruption cant be good, and could end up costing RE a fortune! There are plenty of regional carriers (Flybe comes to mind!) that would jump at the opportunity to operate the Aer Lingus Regional services for Aer Lingus!
In better news, DUB-NCL is available for booking on aerlingus.com; seems to be daily and varies from mid morning to evening departure, which offers good connections to/from the USA
In better news, DUB-NCL is available for booking on aerlingus.com; seems to be daily and varies from mid morning to evening departure, which offers good connections to/from the USA
