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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 19:24
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8 Hours from Belfast to the USofA and only 2 toilets..............................
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 19:43
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Can't see 3,000 mile flight EVER taking 8 hours.
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 19:56
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Depends on where the Jetstream is.....
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 20:50
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Originally Posted by inOban
Depends on where the Jetstream is.....
So 350mph average speed, the whole way across the Atlantic?
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 20:57
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It's rare for the Jet stream to top 250 kts, and even then only in the winter.

When it does blow strongly, westbound flights route further North over Iceland/Greenland etc, adding distance, time and fuel burn
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 22:01
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8hrs is block to block not flight time...!!!
So you will properly have a flight time in the region of 07:15-07:30.
Maybe Norwegian are being generous with the block time as it is a new route!!!!
Rather over estimate then under to start of with I guess!
Let's just sit back and see how it works out, me personally I am sceptical I think Norwegian are basing their predictions on the facts and figures from Boeing not the reality.
And by reality I mean taking off from BFS very heavy, entering oceanic airspace very soon after takeoff, not able to achieve high levels on the track systems, held lower down, burn more fuel.....
Plus if you can get higher the Max won't be able to cruise at the same speeds as the B777, B787, A330 etc... crossing the Atlantic, so unfortunately maybe held down at lower flight levels due to its speed.
If they take a random track they normally have to fly further north to avoid the track system so again using more fuel....
As I said interesting to see how it all works out.
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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 22:39
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Is North Atlantic airspace busy in the late afternoon/evening?
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 08:58
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Is North Atlantic airspace busy in the late afternoon/evening?
Not particularly, the 16:20 departure will be joining the tail of the last big westbound wave of the day.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 10:50
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That's what was thinking, so Speedbrakes Up's concerns about track availability may not be a big deal. Eastbound is another matter.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 12:15
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I still fail to see how Cork will have a year round flight to Boston yet Belfast won't? 🤔

For BFS being the 2nd biggest airport in Ireland how does Cork and Shannon have a greater appeal?

Maybe we could eventually see a Dubai flight on the cards with the aircraft coming in from the states and then heading off to Dubai after a crew change and a quick clean?
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 12:18
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Cork was the bait used to get the licence, Shannon has a large market for these routes.

There is also a great connection between those parts of Ireland and New England. Inbound tourism is also much stronger.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 13:00
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Originally Posted by BHD2BFS
I still fail to see how Cork will have a year round flight to Boston yet Belfast won't? 🤔

For BFS being the 2nd biggest airport in Ireland how does Cork and Shannon have a greater appeal?

Maybe we could eventually see a Dubai flight on the cards with the aircraft coming in from the states and then heading off to Dubai after a crew change and a quick clean?
Correction, Belfast International is the biggest airport in Northern Ireland and the second biggest on the island of Ireland keep up the geography lessons boys
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 13:03
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Originally Posted by Refuellerman
Correction, Belfast International is the biggest airport in Northern Ireland and the second biggest on the island of Ireland keep up the geography lessons boys
I didn't see them state that it was the second biggest in the Republic of Ireland, just Ireland, which was completely correct.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 14:28
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The likely reason that Cork is getting year round service is due to some industry that is located near boston and who have business in Cork area, e.g. pharma.

Belfast on the other hand is seasonal. Very seasonal. Airlines do extremely well in June/July/August but winter is tough particularly on routes other than traditional routes to GB and London in particular. The lack of inbound tourism didn't help either.

Getting a TA route into Cork is a major coup for the airport. This comes on top of wow, who have lots of opportunity as they feed multiple points in north america via KEF.

Shannon has a long history of TA flying and a very strong level of inbound tourism from the US....
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 14:30
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Exactly Refuellerman, we are a country not a county as the Scotsman said to me time of their independence referendum...
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 14:51
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Borders make no difference to the airline, it's all about profits.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 16:09
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No one mentioned the border.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 16:14
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The country not county remark is another way of referencing a border.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 16:31
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No its not AerRyan. It's by way of reinforcing the country, as in Northern Ireland. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 24th Feb 2017, 16:40
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There's no point in making it here other than in relation to Aviation, and I've no doubt you meant it in that sense.
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