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Old 1st Aug 2012, 22:20
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Runway closed?

Flightradar24.com is showing aircraft diverting from LGW and both holds are in use, but nothing's landing.
Anyone know what the problem is?
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Old 1st Aug 2012, 22:35
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Airlift21,

Fog at LGW check easyjet website and enter flight numbers into arrivals and departures and it will tell you. Flights gone to Stansted.!!!

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Old 1st Aug 2012, 22:43
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Thanks guys!
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Old 1st Aug 2012, 22:59
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METARs not showing fog at LGW!
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Old 2nd Aug 2012, 11:37
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Still WX problems today?

FR24 is showing a lot of arrivals holding en route to Gatwick
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Plenty of heavy showers here but nothing out of the ordinary. Plenty of aircraft coming in from what I can hear.
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Old 2nd Aug 2012, 13:10
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Diversions to BHX

BHX had 6 diversions (5 EZY & 1 BAW) between 00.05-00.30 this morning.

All had gone by this morning.
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Old 2nd Aug 2012, 14:44
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They were using the secondary runway which does not have the level of ILS as 26L/08R does. This has been going on for a while between the departure of the last heavy and the morning inbounds.
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Old 2nd Aug 2012, 20:22
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How long is the runway maintenance scheduled to last, and when did it start? Makes me wonder why they don't do it over the winter, when there are hardly any flights inbound or outbound between 0000 and 0600.
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Old 2nd Aug 2012, 20:55
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How long is the runway maintenance scheduled to last, and when did it start? Makes me wonder why they don't do it over the winter, when there are hardly any flights inbound or outbound between 0000 and 0600.
Something to do with snow / ice and rain perhaps...........though winter didn't have a lot of it.
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 07:50
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It started in March and will go on till December-every night 21.30-05.30 except Sundays(weather permitting)
Replacing runway lighting and electrical cables as well.
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 09:36
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Today's BA2964/5 LGW-GLA-LGW will be operated by bmi A321 G-MEDL. Arriving from LHR as BA9255P at 1640 & departing back to LHR as BA9256P at 2130.
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 10:16
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HK Airlines will give up LGW-HKG from 3rd September.

EZY based its 50th a/c at LGW last week:
easyJet’s biggest base at London Gatwick has 50 aircraft and almost 100 routes; Spain remains #1 market in summer | anna.aero
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Old 5th Aug 2012, 09:00
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BA will return to CMB next March
British Airways to return in March 2013 | The Sundaytimes Sri Lanka
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Old 5th Aug 2012, 15:40
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Ryanair are dropping 4 LGW routes from October. They will only retain flights to DUB, ORK, SNN.
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Old 6th Aug 2012, 00:57
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Quote: "British Airways applied to operate 2 daily flights to Moscow Sheremetyevo from Jan or Feb 2013."

Find this surprising: not the LGW part, the SVO part!

Shortage of slots at DME? Surely not!

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Old 6th Aug 2012, 12:23
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Find this surprising: not the LGW part, the SVO part!
I think the point is that they pretty much know they aren't going to win the frequencies in the scarce capacity hearing. Neither the UK (nor, for what it is worth, the Russians) are going to like the thought of all allowable London-Moscow frequencies falling into the hands of BA. That said, BA have at least got to try....so the only possible argument that they can 'reasonably' give to use the extra frequencies is the basis that they are trying to serve a different market from the LHR-DME route.

From what Virgin have said, it is difficult to tell if they are going after one or both daily London-Moscow frequencies. I may be wrong, but it sort of sounds like just one.

The rather more interesting question is who will get the other one. Sure, easyJet seems quite obvious but they are going to have to go some fair distance to prove to the authorities that they can do what is necessary to allow codesharing on their flights (as required under the bilateral by the Russians)....plus there is the question of a certain history of them taking the London-Cairo route to scarce capacity hearing (this was some while before the Egyptian troubles), winning the frequencies but never taking up the route. Sure, Moscow is a totally different market, but I am not sure how the UK side view carriers 'playing the system' but not following through with what they've promised..

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Old 6th Aug 2012, 12:35
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globetrotter - if easyJet were granted the rights to fly to Cairo, why did they not take up those rights ? I thought that the Egyptian Govt didn't like the orange brigade's no-frills image at the time, and decided to say 'No'

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Old 6th Aug 2012, 15:11
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Why is it surprising? Road traffic in Moscow is bloody awful, it has been known to take up to 5 hours to transit from DME to SVO. DME is good for some domestic flights with S7, Transaero, etc. I used to commute to Kazakhstan via BA, and then either Transaero to Atyrau or Uralsk, or Orenburg Airlines down to Orenburg.

SVO also has good domestic connections, maybe, though I doubt it, this is what BA is looking at. A stupid for example is the Russian migration to the Costas. I was in Zurich yesterday flying to Malaga and the plane had quite a good representation of Russians heading south, this despite a daily Aeroflot rotation and numerous charters to Malaga
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Old 6th Aug 2012, 15:21
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AFAIK, there are/were 2 airlines from each country on LON-MOW each doing 2 flights/day:

BA LHR-DME
BD LHR-DME
SU LHR-SVO
UN LHR-DME

The 2 BD flights are up for grabs with VS chasing, with VS on the route instead of BD, that still leaves 2 flights/day each on 2 carriers from each country.

The UN flights use LHR slots leased from BD, an agreement which BA inherited. When this agreement ends, does BA have to surrender those slots permanently to UN, just generally, or do they revert to BA?

Is BA's LGW-SVO idea hedging their bets in case VS only takes up 1 of the 2 daily frequencies up for grabs?

If so, think VS may regret taking up just 1 of those frequencies, it should be a high yielding route for them.

IIRC wasn't BA doing more than twice daily to Moscow a few years ago?

BTW, find the proposed return to SVO surprising because BA switched all flights from SVO to DME some 8 (?) years ago, must have been good reasons.

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