Help! Moving to USA
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Help! Moving to USA
HI Everyone,
Hope someone Can answer My question or give me any advice ,
I'm 38 years old moving to US in the near future with my family , we have a green card and I have an FAA ATP ME A320 type rating license , currnetly I'm an IP or TRI on A320 with almost 10000hr of experience (700hr on B737, 9300hr on A320 which 4500 PIC and 1000hr as IP:Instructor Pilot)
what will be my chances to get hired by any company?
Thanks
Hope someone Can answer My question or give me any advice ,
I'm 38 years old moving to US in the near future with my family , we have a green card and I have an FAA ATP ME A320 type rating license , currnetly I'm an IP or TRI on A320 with almost 10000hr of experience (700hr on B737, 9300hr on A320 which 4500 PIC and 1000hr as IP:Instructor Pilot)
what will be my chances to get hired by any company?
Thanks
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You’re a shoe-in at a regional; might be thought too qualified for legacies. Majors like Spirit would be interested. Do you have a 4-year degree?. Without one, definitely hard to get the call at a legacy. Remember, here you WILL start at the bottom of the seniority list.
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Hi Galaxy
Thanks for your reply,
I don't have a 4-year degree, I have a high school diploma.
Starting at the bottom of the seniority list :you mean as A First officer ?, if SO how much time to get upgraded at a Regional ?
thanks
Thanks for your reply,
I don't have a 4-year degree, I have a high school diploma.
Starting at the bottom of the seniority list :you mean as A First officer ?, if SO how much time to get upgraded at a Regional ?
thanks
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Upgrade times at Regionals vary depending on which ones. Can be as little as 18 months, but I sure hope you have some cash stashed away because $35-45/hr isn’t going to be easy with you and your family.
I was in the same shoes as yourself about two years ago and decided against it. Been flying for an Asian carrier and commute home instead.
I was in the same shoes as yourself about two years ago and decided against it. Been flying for an Asian carrier and commute home instead.
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Try the heavy carriers like Atlas, Kallita, Western Global, Air Transport, Southern, Omni Int’l, Dynamic etc, etc.
They will appreciate your experience, and may not care if you have a degree.
They will appreciate your experience, and may not care if you have a degree.
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Seniority is everything here. No such thing as DEC and upgrades depend on upward movement on the list. You’ll start at the bottom, least liked base in lowest paying plane. A HS diploma will keep your app in “uninterested” pile at most carriers here. Exceptions might be ULCC or regionals and maybe Kallita.
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thank you everyone for the reply ,
I don't have too much choice , except to move to USA and start with Low cost carriers or regional , I thought about commuting but I can't keep my wife alone with 2 baby, I will try to save some money to live for the next 2 or 3 years , in mean while I'll do my best to get the 4-year degree and try to get a job at a legacy .
I don't have too much choice , except to move to USA and start with Low cost carriers or regional , I thought about commuting but I can't keep my wife alone with 2 baby, I will try to save some money to live for the next 2 or 3 years , in mean while I'll do my best to get the 4-year degree and try to get a job at a legacy .
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GF, with all due respect, perhaps these sorts of queries are best answered by people who are actually currently working for airlines and/or are involved with recruitment for same.
Just a thought.
You could, however, hook him up on one of y'all's A340s, no?
Just a thought.
You could, however, hook him up on one of y'all's A340s, no?
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With your training background, you might at least take a look at this. Wouldn't be a flying gig but...just a thought:
Delta Global Services Pilot Training Division is dedicated to providing superior pilot training services by a highly skilled professional workforce. Pilot Instructors are responsible for instructing pilots in flight procedures and techniques and preparing them for validations and evaluations. Apply online at Airline Applications
Delta Global Services Pilot Training Division is dedicated to providing superior pilot training services by a highly skilled professional workforce. Pilot Instructors are responsible for instructing pilots in flight procedures and techniques and preparing them for validations and evaluations. Apply online at Airline Applications
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Why would you think I have A340s? And, did I offer anything that wasn’t true? Name me a US carrier offering DEC to those w/o a thousand hours of 121 time or a legacy regularly interviewing pilots without a college degree.
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thank you everyone for the reply ,
I don't have too much choice , except to move to USA and start with Low cost carriers or regional , I thought about commuting but I can't keep my wife alone with 2 baby, I will try to save some money to live for the next 2 or 3 years , in mean while I'll do my best to get the 4-year degree and try to get a job at a legacy .
I don't have too much choice , except to move to USA and start with Low cost carriers or regional , I thought about commuting but I can't keep my wife alone with 2 baby, I will try to save some money to live for the next 2 or 3 years , in mean while I'll do my best to get the 4-year degree and try to get a job at a legacy .
You won’t be happy in a ERJ class with 21-23 year olds with 1000 - 1500 hours?
The lack of a degree may prevent you from gaining employment with a third or second tier passenger carrier. It most certainly will with a legacy carrier.
So why not look towards the heavy cargo and passenger carriers?
I would have thought you’d be more than ready for a B747, B767, B777, or MD11.
This is after all the country to dream big.
National has both A320s, and B747s. It may be a good fit for you.
What once was the bottom of the barrel Kallita now has top pay close to $300 an hour.
Which is far better than top pay at any low cost or regional operation.
Personally I’d rather slum it in ‘freight dog land’ than put yourself through a pointless on-line degree for the sake of a tick of a box at a low cost = low pay carrier.
What ever you decide to do, I welcome you, and wish you luck.
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Spirit is worth looking at. A degree is only listed as "preferred" (as is the A320 rating). While your competition may have degrees, do they have the A320 rating and all your check & training experience ?:
https://re12.ultipro.com/spi1000/job...7BF78782572B27
https://re12.ultipro.com/spi1000/job...7BF78782572B27
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2-4 year upgrade there
then work on the 4 year degree and by 44 get on with the big Airlines (delta, American , united, SWA, FedEx , ups )
...it will be a 4 to 5 million retirement when you are 65
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Wishful thinking!
It’s not that easy for a first generation immigrant, to just waltz into a job at a legacy carrier.
I think he would be better off at a cargo, charter or supplemental carrier, and spend his time working on the next generation of his family, by getting them all a degree and a Commercial/Instrument/Multi-Engine at minimum age.
It’s not that easy for a first generation immigrant, to just waltz into a job at a legacy carrier.
I think he would be better off at a cargo, charter or supplemental carrier, and spend his time working on the next generation of his family, by getting them all a degree and a Commercial/Instrument/Multi-Engine at minimum age.
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thank you everyone,
Now I'm still under contract with one of the middle-east company that end by Oct 2018, but the situation here not so clear , there are too many changes, at anytime they can stop our contracts, this is why I'm planing for a job in the next few months, and already decided with my familly to move to USA ,but I have to wait untill end of contract to have end of service benefits that will help me start a new life.
I'm not really interested by big Aircrafts or cargo job, I will be happy to start at a regional.
Now I'm still under contract with one of the middle-east company that end by Oct 2018, but the situation here not so clear , there are too many changes, at anytime they can stop our contracts, this is why I'm planing for a job in the next few months, and already decided with my familly to move to USA ,but I have to wait untill end of contract to have end of service benefits that will help me start a new life.
I'm not really interested by big Aircrafts or cargo job, I will be happy to start at a regional.
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If that’s the case then goto an American Airlines wholly owned regional that has a flow through to mainline (degree or no degree).
I’m an immigrant from Australia on a green card and flying for one of them.
That being said with your background, I agree with the previous comments of going to Kalitta doing cargo, though I’ve been told that Kalitta requires citizenship in order to gain a security clearance for their DoD contracts.
PM me if you want to know more.
I’m an immigrant from Australia on a green card and flying for one of them.
That being said with your background, I agree with the previous comments of going to Kalitta doing cargo, though I’ve been told that Kalitta requires citizenship in order to gain a security clearance for their DoD contracts.
PM me if you want to know more.