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Help! Moving to USA
HI Everyone,
Hope someone Can answer My question or give me any advice , I'm 38 years old moving to US in the near future with my family , we have a green card and I have an FAA ATP ME A320 type rating license , currnetly I'm an IP or TRI on A320 with almost 10000hr of experience (700hr on B737, 9300hr on A320 which 4500 PIC and 1000hr as IP:Instructor Pilot) what will be my chances to get hired by any company? Thanks |
You’re a shoe-in at a regional; might be thought too qualified for legacies. Majors like Spirit would be interested. Do you have a 4-year degree?. Without one, definitely hard to get the call at a legacy. Remember, here you WILL start at the bottom of the seniority list.
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Hi Galaxy
Thanks for your reply, I don't have a 4-year degree, I have a high school diploma. Starting at the bottom of the seniority list :you mean as A First officer ?, if SO how much time to get upgraded at a Regional ? thanks |
Upgrade times at Regionals vary depending on which ones. Can be as little as 18 months, but I sure hope you have some cash stashed away because $35-45/hr isn’t going to be easy with you and your family.
I was in the same shoes as yourself about two years ago and decided against it. Been flying for an Asian carrier and commute home instead. |
Try the heavy carriers like Atlas, Kallita, Western Global, Air Transport, Southern, Omni Int’l, Dynamic etc, etc.
They will appreciate your experience, and may not care if you have a degree. |
Seniority is everything here. No such thing as DEC and upgrades depend on upward movement on the list. You’ll start at the bottom, least liked base in lowest paying plane. A HS diploma will keep your app in “uninterested” pile at most carriers here. Exceptions might be ULCC or regionals and maybe Kallita.
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thank you everyone for the reply ,
I don't have too much choice , except to move to USA and start with Low cost carriers or regional , I thought about commuting but I can't keep my wife alone with 2 baby, I will try to save some money to live for the next 2 or 3 years , in mean while I'll do my best to get the 4-year degree and try to get a job at a legacy . |
Where exactly are you moving to, if you don't mind my asking?
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GF, with all due respect, perhaps these sorts of queries are best answered by people who are actually currently working for airlines and/or are involved with recruitment for same.
Just a thought. You could, however, hook him up on one of y'all's A340s, no? |
With your training background, you might at least take a look at this. Wouldn't be a flying gig but...just a thought:
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I'm moving to Orlando , maybe in 6 month I'm not sure about the exact period , but if I'll find a job in any other state ,I'll move.
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Why would you think I have A340s? And, did I offer anything that wasn’t true? Name me a US carrier offering DEC to those w/o a thousand hours of 121 time or a legacy regularly interviewing pilots without a college degree.
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Originally Posted by ghost7
(Post 9967000)
thank you everyone for the reply ,
I don't have too much choice , except to move to USA and start with Low cost carriers or regional , I thought about commuting but I can't keep my wife alone with 2 baby, I will try to save some money to live for the next 2 or 3 years , in mean while I'll do my best to get the 4-year degree and try to get a job at a legacy . You won’t be happy in a ERJ class with 21-23 year olds with 1000 - 1500 hours? The lack of a degree may prevent you from gaining employment with a third or second tier passenger carrier. It most certainly will with a legacy carrier. So why not look towards the heavy cargo and passenger carriers? I would have thought you’d be more than ready for a B747, B767, B777, or MD11. This is after all the country to dream big. National has both A320s, and B747s. It may be a good fit for you. What once was the bottom of the barrel Kallita now has top pay close to $300 an hour. Which is far better than top pay at any low cost or regional operation. Personally I’d rather slum it in ‘freight dog land’ than put yourself through a pointless on-line degree for the sake of a tick of a box at a low cost = low pay carrier. What ever you decide to do, I welcome you, and wish you luck. |
Spirit is worth looking at. A degree is only listed as "preferred" (as is the A320 rating). While your competition may have degrees, do they have the A320 rating and all your check & training experience ?:
https://re12.ultipro.com/spi1000/job...7BF78782572B27 |
Originally Posted by ghost7
(Post 9967075)
I'm moving to Orlando , maybe in 6 month I'm not sure about the exact period , but if I'll find a job in any other state ,I'll move.
2-4 year upgrade there then work on the 4 year degree and by 44 get on with the big Airlines (delta, American , united, SWA, FedEx , ups ) ...it will be a 4 to 5 million retirement when you are 65 |
Wishful thinking!
It’s not that easy for a first generation immigrant, to just waltz into a job at a legacy carrier. I think he would be better off at a cargo, charter or supplemental carrier, and spend his time working on the next generation of his family, by getting them all a degree and a Commercial/Instrument/Multi-Engine at minimum age. |
thank you everyone,
Now I'm still under contract with one of the middle-east company that end by Oct 2018, but the situation here not so clear , there are too many changes, at anytime they can stop our contracts, this is why I'm planing for a job in the next few months, and already decided with my familly to move to USA ,but I have to wait untill end of contract to have end of service benefits that will help me start a new life. I'm not really interested by big Aircrafts or cargo job, I will be happy to start at a regional. |
If that’s the case then goto an American Airlines wholly owned regional that has a flow through to mainline (degree or no degree).
I’m an immigrant from Australia on a green card and flying for one of them. That being said with your background, I agree with the previous comments of going to Kalitta doing cargo, though I’ve been told that Kalitta requires citizenship in order to gain a security clearance for their DoD contracts. PM me if you want to know more. |
Originally Posted by button push ignored
(Post 9967450)
Wishful thinking!
It’s not that easy for a first generation immigrant, to just waltz into a job at a legacy carrier. |
How many newly arrived green card holders without a four year degree have been hired by Delta, American, United, FedEx or UPS?
I bet not many. So, no I'm not kidding. |
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