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clvf88 15th February 2024 08:33

Across four airlines, one interesting thing I observed is that there is a lot of denial at the worst ones; with pilots eager to reassure each other that this is actually a great place to work. Copium?

On the flip side, at the better airlines, it's non-stop winging about how terrible everything is and how everyone else has it better; even though, deep down, I suspect everyone knows it's not really true.

Would be interesting to see a psychologist explain this phenomena.


Time Traveller 15th February 2024 10:26

Frankly, I think more can be gleaned from this thread about the kind of people at other airlines where some of these sneering commentators work, than about Ryanair itself!

rotorwills 15th February 2024 12:30

The delay at Boeing is causing RyanAir expansion difficulties. As a result of the slow down in delivery this may be the reason that the official notification that there will be no command upgrades this year. Buzz is 45% overcrewed. Very low hours to go around. The demand for DEC is still high due to retirement and losses to other airlines. The conveyor belt of cadets is still rolling. Training personnel are still scarce with the SFI sector only healthy.

ICEHOUSES 15th February 2024 12:52

I thought that Ryanair were doing roadshows in South America and offering visa sponsorship for U.K. positions, if that’s the case there must be a reason that they can’t attract U.K. licence holders, I don’t see Jet2, DHL U.K. or BA doing Visa sponsorship deals over there.
So surely this visa sponsorship must be suppressing the market somehow in terms of lower salaries, I can’t see this arrangement being allowed in other countries.

Lazyturtle 15th February 2024 16:28


Originally Posted by rotorwills (Post 11597734)
The delay at Boeing is causing RyanAir expansion difficulties. As a result of the slow down in delivery this may be the reason that the official notification that there will be no command upgrades this year. Buzz is 45% overcrewed. Very low hours to go around. The demand for DEC is still high due to retirement and losses to other airlines. The conveyor belt of cadets is still rolling. Training personnel are still scarce with the SFI sector only healthy.

Nonstop drivel without anything factual.. Haha 45% overcrewed.. Perhaps if you knew anyone in RYR you would know why they offered Seasonal TRI and base SFI Positions.. exactly opposite of what your drivel suggest… Go back to the kindergarden.

rotorwills 15th February 2024 17:53


Originally Posted by ICEHOUSES (Post 11597753)
I thought that Ryanair were doing roadshows in South America and offering visa sponsorship for U.K. positions, if that’s the case there must be a reason that they can’t attract U.K. licence holders, I don’t see Jet2, DHL U.K. or BA doing Visa sponsorship deals over there.
So surely this visa sponsorship must be suppressing the market somehow in terms of lower salaries, I can’t see this arrangement being allowed in other countries.


They are filling their LHS seats as quickly as possible due to their losses and their complete lack of command upgrades which is halted till next year. They are continually filling their FO compliment and then putting them on peanut salary until, they recruit their training staff. TRE and TRI vaccines are at the highest level ever. RyanAir will visa sponsor any likely candidate for their LHS. Not so the RHS.

R T Jones 15th February 2024 18:06

How can they be stopping upgrades but recruiting DEC?


Chesty Morgan 15th February 2024 21:01


Originally Posted by Vokes55 (Post 11597553)
Coming from a Jet2 pilot.

Still got a hard on for us I see :rolleyes:

A320LGW 16th February 2024 09:04


Originally Posted by Lazyturtle (Post 11597879)
Nonstop drivel without anything factual.. Haha 45% overcrewed.. Perhaps if you knew anyone in RYR you would know why they offered Seasonal TRI and base SFI Positions.. exactly opposite of what your drivel suggest… Go back to the kindergarden.

Buzz is heavily overcrewed, it was said by management themselves on fleethub when responding to a buzz pilot complaining about low hours

Lazyturtle 16th February 2024 09:08


Originally Posted by A320LGW (Post 11598326)
Buzz is heavily overcrewed, it was said by management themselves on fleethub when responding to a buzz pilot complaining about low hours

it is not overcrewed by 45%. That is a nonsense number by someone who was once laid off and now just wants to spour BS nonstop. Buzz has always since the introduction been heavily seasonal like any charter operation. Thats why a lot of the Buzz guys in certain polish bases have been offered to fly RYR DAC over the winter. I have done a lot of the AOC transfers in the sim.

plikee 16th February 2024 10:40


Originally Posted by rotorwills (Post 11597734)
... the official notification that there will be no command upgrades this year.


Originally Posted by rotorwills (Post 11597734)
The demand for DEC is still high ...

You are contradicting yourself here. The reason they are slowing down upgrades (not stopping) is not because of Boeing lack of deliveries. It is because of the lack of FOs.

There was a massive exodus in 2022, these FOs would be CU ready now if they stayed. So there is a gap in experience now between the 1500 hour and 2500 hour mark. They started DEFO hiring but this guy's & gals need to do at least one year to be command ready.

So the Boeing delays is actually a blessing in disguise to the sausage factory. And it makes sense why they are so short of trainers.

BoeingLudo737 16th February 2024 10:58


Originally Posted by rotorwills (Post 11597929)
They are filling their LHS seats as quickly as possible due to their losses and their complete lack of command upgrades which is halted till next year. They are continually filling their FO compliment and then putting them on peanut salary until, they recruit their training staff. TRE and TRI vaccines are at the highest level ever. RyanAir will visa sponsor any likely candidate for their LHS. Not so the RHS.

That's bizarre, I know at least 3 people who are starting their command course in April so again, you keep spreading misinformation.

speed13ird 16th February 2024 15:58


Originally Posted by GearDownF15 (Post 11597367)
I bet you love WOFFing and driving T&Cs into the ground.

I'm assuming you have never given your company an off day in the knowledge that it jolly well serves them right for not recruiting enough pilots

Richard_ 18th February 2024 12:07

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ef615dc1c.jpeg

Hi guys, sorry if its in the wrong thread, but anyone have a friend or know of somebody who received a message similar to this, just upset and thinking what are my next steps and is ryan air out the window from future employment...

Michael S 18th February 2024 18:24

Maybe, just thinking, if you'd managed to get the airline's name right you would stand more chance in a recruitment process.

Singapore777 18th February 2024 18:41

Relax, Michael. You’ll age yourself unduly getting agitated by such an error.

Returning to the initial point, is there anything in your profile that might stand out unfavourably? There a many guys with failures but have you had numerous fails etc

Richard_ 18th February 2024 23:36

Thanks for your reply i'm in my late 30's all first time pass in ATPLS/CPL MEP IR, the only thing i could think of is during the recording stage of the assesment i had a family member walking in and which i had to state please leave the room i'm doing an assessment, a little background i'm a UK citizen with an EASA licence only thus sadly limited to airlines thus considering options like smart lynx/eagle jets etc..

Michael S 19th February 2024 10:53


Originally Posted by Singapore777 (Post 11599619)
Relax, Michael. You’ll age yourself unduly getting agitated by such an error.

Returning to the initial point, is there anything in your profile that might stand out unfavourably? There a many guys with failures but have you had numerous fails etc

I am relaxed and not agitated at all. It was supposed to be a little witty, humourous remark, but it seems that without smiley it could have been taken wrong. Well, happens.

Googlebug 20th February 2024 05:46


Originally Posted by Richard_ (Post 11599732)
i'm a UK citizen with an EASA licence only thus sadly limited to airlines thus considering options like smart lynx/eagle jets etc..

Why. Just about every airline is recruiting and every airline is desperate. Why feed the bottom dwellers?

VeeeOne 20th February 2024 06:01


Originally Posted by Googlebug (Post 11600488)
Why. Just about every airline is recruiting and every airline is desperate. Why feed the bottom dwellers?

I don’t think you realise how few airlines are actively recruiting low hours pilots who can only live in the UK with an EASA FCL. You’re severely limited.


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