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clarkeysntfc 19th April 2026 15:48


Originally Posted by Scorpape (Post 12073046)
Expect Buzz after Line training indeed. Massive overcrew in the West on FO side and transfer lists are full of people who joined in 2022 or 2023 and are still waiting for their preferred bases. In this context it's hard to understand the need for so many cadets as the MAX-10 is not even certified, it's a bit premature if you ask me.
Some of you will get "lucky" and end up in DUB, STN or CRL, (still jumping the queue) but TIA, SOF, KRK and WMI are more probable.
With a Malta or DAC contract it's not much of a problem if there is a high crewing ratio as your basic salary will be high enough to compensate for the lack of flying. If you are with a buzz contract you are entirely dependent on flight hours and there is no minimum.

If you’re a U.K. national or have right to work in the U.K. you will be based in the U.K. or ROI.

737avio 23rd April 2026 09:00

Hello guys! I’ve seen that recently a lot of guys have been sent to Buzz for line training. My training contract is with Ryanair DAC, can they still send me to Buzz for line training? Or do you think there’s still a chance I get Bergamo or Malpensa, as I selected these as base preferences?
I heard a lot of people got what they wanted in the past, but I don’t know if it’s still the case now as I see Ryanair needs a lot of pilots in Eastern Europe.

bda321 24th April 2026 07:28


Originally Posted by 737avio (Post 12074895)
Hello guys! I’ve seen that recently a lot of guys have been sent to Buzz for line training. My training contract is with Ryanair DAC, can they still send me to Buzz for line training? Or do you think there’s still a chance I get Bergamo or Malpensa, as I selected these as base preferences?
I heard a lot of people got what they wanted in the past, but I don’t know if it’s still the case now as I see Ryanair needs a lot of pilots in Eastern Europe.

When applying to Ryanair you accepted that you'd go to any base.

Buzz, Malta and DAC are all interchangeable. They mean nothing for where they can send you. It is all Ryanair.

bulldog89 24th April 2026 07:48


Originally Posted by 737avio (Post 12074895)
Hello guys! I’ve seen that recently a lot of guys have been sent to Buzz for line training. My training contract is with Ryanair DAC, can they still send me to Buzz for line training? Or do you think there’s still a chance I get Bergamo or Malpensa, as I selected these as base preferences?
I heard a lot of people got what they wanted in the past, but I don’t know if it’s still the case now as I see Ryanair needs a lot of pilots in Eastern Europe.

How is that possibile? Your training contract should be with AFA, not DAC.

Delta42 26th April 2026 15:19


Originally Posted by Scorpape (Post 12073046)
Expect Buzz after Line training indeed. Massive overcrew in the West on FO side and transfer lists are full of people who joined in 2022 or 2023 and are still waiting for their preferred bases. In this context it's hard to understand the need for so many cadets as the MAX-10 is not even certified, it's a bit premature if you ask me.
Some of you will get "lucky" and end up in DUB, STN or CRL, (still jumping the queue) but TIA, SOF, KRK and WMI are more probable.
With a Malta or DAC contract it's not much of a problem if there is a high crewing ratio as your basic salary will be high enough to compensate for the lack of flying. If you are with a buzz contract you are entirely dependent on flight hours and there is no minimum.

We kinda already expect that, but we are still wondering how they are going to fit 1000 cadets on Buzz this year alone. I think many will skip the line.

davek2k 27th April 2026 18:45


Originally Posted by Delta42 (Post 12076797)
We kinda already expect that, but we are still wondering how they are going to fit 1000 cadets on Buzz this year alone. I think many will skip the line.

The base transfer list in general is not very fair, many people getting deals to go to Morocco for 1 year to end up at a base of their no 1. choice going behind the base transfer list.

plikee 27th April 2026 22:13


Originally Posted by Delta42 (Post 12076797)
We kinda already expect that, but we are still wondering how they are going to fit 1000 cadets on Buzz this year alone. I think many will skip the line.

What do you mean by how they are going to fit 1000 cadets in Buzz? They cost 0 in Buzz. If you don't fly, you don't get paid. Any other AOC, they will have a basic income, flying or not.

737avio 28th April 2026 17:02


Originally Posted by Delta42 (Post 12076797)
We kinda already expect that, but we are still wondering how they are going to fit 1000 cadets on Buzz this year alone. I think many will skip the line.

Where have you gotten this information from?

737avio 28th April 2026 17:07

Change of AOC
 

Originally Posted by bda321 (Post 12075522)
When applying to Ryanair you accepted that you'd go to any base.

Buzz, Malta and DAC are all interchangeable. They mean nothing for where they can send you. It is all Ryanair.

One instructor informed me that it’s harder for them to change you from DAC to BUZZ because of all the paperwork related to the change of AOC which is lengthy. Also they stated that under the course number FR…. You cannot be sent to buzz for permanent base but for line yes which makes sense

Scorpape 28th April 2026 21:37


Originally Posted by 737avio (Post 12077956)
One instructor informed me that it’s harder for them to change you from DAC to BUZZ because of all the paperwork related to the change of AOC which is lengthy. Also they stated that under the course number FR…. You cannot be sent to buzz for permanent base but for line yes which makes sense

My course number was FR something and I did my line training in a DAC base and thereafter BUZZ permanent base. I think it means nothing.

bulldog89 29th April 2026 04:47


Originally Posted by 737avio (Post 12077956)
One instructor informed me that it’s harder for them to change you from DAC to BUZZ because of all the paperwork related to the change of AOC which is lengthy. Also they stated that under the course number FR…. You cannot be sent to buzz for permanent base but for line yes which makes sense

False info.
You can be sent anywhere both for LT and as permanent. The only good news is we're expecting more than 1000 cadets in 2026 and 2027, they just can't send all of them to Buzz.

Dissident1 29th April 2026 05:07

Are they seriously recruiting DEFOs to Buzz? Why?

Brian Pern 29th April 2026 07:29


Originally Posted by Dissident1 (Post 12078171)
Are they seriously recruiting DEFOs to Buzz? Why?

Apparently thats all they are doing at the moment.

Dissident1 30th April 2026 06:14


Originally Posted by Brian Pern (Post 12078219)
Apparently thats all they are doing at the moment.

Weird when they have so many cadets in the pipeline… Why would anybody with experience join Buzz?

Brian Pern 30th April 2026 07:43


Originally Posted by Dissident1 (Post 12078763)
Weird when they have so many cadets in the pipeline… Why would anybody with experience join Buzz?

Sorry I should have clarified myself. It seems they arn't taking DEFO at the moment. Ryanair are happy to get cadets

davek2k 3rd May 2026 12:49


Originally Posted by bulldog89 (Post 12078168)
False info.
You can be sent anywhere both for LT and as permanent. The only good news is we're expecting more than 1000 cadets in 2026 and 2027, they just can't send all of them to Buzz.

True is just an availability and demand question where they need people or have to many people to distribute them evenly. Last winter in DUB base the average flying hours was like 25 hours a month only due to overcrewing.

737aviator 4th May 2026 04:32


Originally Posted by 737avio (Post 12077956)
One instructor informed me that it’s harder for them to change you from DAC to BUZZ because of all the paperwork related to the change of AOC which is lengthy. Also they stated that under the course number FR…. You cannot be sent to buzz for permanent base but for line yes which makes sense

AOC change is an easy and well established process now.


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