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Bemgy 1st May 2024 21:25

Hello,

Anyone know if the IR needs to be valid before starting the Type Rating?
I know the Type Rating exam itself classes as a revalidation/renewal, but not sure how BA like to do things?
Will save me a few quid, Cheers.

takeoff320 1st May 2024 23:51

Hi everyone, just wanted to ask whether anyone can provide any information about how long people can expect to remain in the hold pool and which LH fleets are primarily being recruited on?

mrguy 2nd May 2024 06:04


Originally Posted by Bemgy (Post 11647217)
Hello,

Anyone know if the IR needs to be valid before starting the Type Rating?
I know the Type Rating exam itself classes as a revalidation/renewal, but not sure how BA like to do things?
Will save me a few quid, Cheers.

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You can email the pilot recruitment team for confirmation, but they told me it doesn't. You only need to " have or have held" one for your first type rating, the regulations were subtly ammended in 2019.

clvf88 2nd May 2024 10:37


Originally Posted by topgunaviator (Post 11647482)
Hi all, does anyone have any information on what the BA drugs & alcohol test entails? Breathalyser? Urine sample?

I'd save this question for your interview. They'll be more than happy to discuss further.

sillyworm 2nd May 2024 11:58

Some good information thanks

R T Jones 2nd May 2024 13:19


Originally Posted by byrondaf (Post 11646461)
RT, myself and a good mate of mine (both same age as you) had this exact discussion about leaving easy for BA. We even had a chat about you going and weighed up all the pro's and cons. I think for us, going 75% in a couple of years is the only way we'll make it to the end of our careers as we're not prepared to take the risk. For me starting a family in the next couple of years was also a dealbreaker. I hope it works out for you and at least gain more control of your life as your seniority increases, we've resigned ourselves to the lottery of preferential bidding and working less to cope. I'll watch this space to find out if you feel like you made the right choice in a few years! You were a decent skipper to fly with, wish you all the best.

Thank you! I think everyone’s situation and wants will be different so I can very much see the argument for staying and going 75%. If we do fly again before I leave, unless you’re now a captain, Do make yourself known. Clearly there is no mystery in my username…

CAVOKpilot 2nd May 2024 21:17


Originally Posted by mrguy (Post 11647371)
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You can email the pilot recruitment team form confirmation, but they told me it doesn't. You only need to " have or have held" one for your first type rating, the regulations were subtly ammended in 2019.

Email queried this last week. Mine's up in July and I start in Sep, been told it shouldn't be a problem and will be revalidated during the TR.

sillyworm 3rd May 2024 04:43

Thanks for the private messages , for some reason I can’t reply ….
The pay is a hard pill to swallow for me as I believe for the next few years it would be important to have more pay . I know that you can do overtime at BA and it pays well BUT that’s not guaranteed.
Also time away from home is a factor , 4-5 trips per month is a killer . I used to do 3-4 when I did LH and that was pretty tough ……
Only positive I can really think of is the possibility to manipulate my roster which would take years at the bottom of a LH type , yes the pay is higher at the top end of the pay scales but most go part time to allow for a work life balance.
Again a tough decision

bylgw 3rd May 2024 05:49

https://www.caa.co.uk/commercial-ind...alent-licence/

allert 3rd May 2024 06:42


Originally Posted by CAVOKpilot (Post 11647916)
Email queried this last week. Mine's up in July and I start in Sep, been told it shouldn't be a problem and will be revalidated during the TR.

How long did you wait for the phone call with the start date?

mrguy 3rd May 2024 11:39


Originally Posted by allert (Post 11648064)
How long did you wait for the phone call with the start date?

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it was about a week after the assessment for me. Other people on my course were waiting a month or so.

sillyworm 3rd May 2024 13:22

Aiminghigh please can you resend your message , I had to delete some

flying pancake 3rd May 2024 14:52

Where are the numbers ££££££
 
So, when will the informed share the numbers for the smoke and mirrors debate relating to pilot salaries (BA, easy, etc) pay, pension and other other numbers that make up what are claimed to be salaries but are probably not really - these are the numbers that building societies need to help them make informed decisions on available mortgage lending?

Seosan 3rd May 2024 21:19

Are they still offering DEP onto the 380 or is it all 777 and 320 at the mo?

Alrosa 4th May 2024 08:52


Originally Posted by flying pancake (Post 11648419)
So, when will the informed share the numbers for the smoke and mirrors debate relating to pilot salaries (BA, easy, etc) pay, pension and other other numbers that make up what are claimed to be salaries but are probably not really - these are the numbers that building societies need to help them make informed decisions on available mortgage lending?

Shorthaul 320 Pilot LHR . My mortgage letter from salary portal shows average earnings of £110k on annual basis. I’m junior and do a mix of day trips and 2-3 day trips with overtime and reserve every month. I chuck in the maximum I can into pension so I can get the 15% from BA but I’m not doing AVCs at the moment.

Not sure that’s really very helpful but there you go (I’m also looking to save ASAP for a deposit …)

roll_over 4th May 2024 10:30


Originally Posted by flying pancake (Post 11648419)
So, when will the informed share the numbers for the smoke and mirrors debate relating to pilot salaries (BA, easy, etc) pay, pension and other other numbers that make up what are claimed to be salaries but are probably not really - these are the numbers that building societies need to help them make informed decisions on available mortgage lending?

I don’t work for BA but I got a DIP for 6.7x my basic salary due to allowances and overtime, you just need to find a good mortgage broker and they should help you out.

FlyingGasMain 4th May 2024 20:21

Hi there,

I’ve got an interview / group exercise day coming up. There is some info on one of the supporting documents that says :

we will ask you to complete an online ability test measuring your general ability. You will need to complete the test before attending your assessment centre - a link will be sent out to you 3-5 days in advance of your assessment centre day”

Can anyone who’s done the interview in the last 2 or 3 months tell me if they did this pre-interview online test, and roughly what it consists of ?


cheers

FlyingGasMain

SpamCanDriver 4th May 2024 21:41


Originally Posted by Alrosa (Post 11648814)
Shorthaul 320 Pilot LHR . My mortgage letter from salary portal shows average earnings of £110k on annual basis. I’m junior and do a mix of day trips and 2-3 day trips with overtime and reserve every month. I chuck in the maximum I can into pension so I can get the 15% from BA but I’m not doing AVCs at the moment.

Not sure that’s really very helpful but there you go (I’m also looking to save ASAP for a deposit …)

It's not just about average earnings, any part of your earnings that are not fixed are treated differently by lenders. Sure you might be able to find a lender that will treat them almost as salaried income, but your options will be significantly narrowed & its definitely not likely to be the best rate out there. Salary is king when it comes to mortgages

That being said, wish you the best of luck in your house hunting adventures!

JliderPilot 4th May 2024 22:19

Salary is not king, would suggest take home salary is king, there is a subtle difference.

The financial crowd out there are merciless to protect their bottom line. Even though you earn £120k plus gross, your pension contributions can affect your mortgage offer. So take home is the focus. Sooner you are mortgage free the better.

CAVOKpilot 5th May 2024 01:11


Originally Posted by Alrosa (Post 11648814)
Shorthaul 320 Pilot LHR . My mortgage letter from salary portal shows average earnings of £110k on annual basis. I’m junior and do a mix of day trips and 2-3 day trips with overtime and reserve every month. I chuck in the maximum I can into pension so I can get the 15% from BA but I’m not doing AVCs at the moment.

Not sure that’s really very helpful but there you go (I’m also looking to save ASAP for a deposit …)

Does anybody know how soon after joining this letter generates? I ask because my wife and I are looking to relocate about 3 months after I join. Hopefully by then I will see the flying pay appear on the payslips. Do you need to have worked a year for this average annual earnings to calculate? Or will it make a forecast based on basic salary and projected flying pay?

I have already put the feelers out to lenders with my contract offer letter and many aren’t interested in lending more than what they calculate off the basic salary, or can’t grasp the collective agreement idea.

If anybody has experienced this, or has also attempted purchasing a property soon after joining, I would love to hear from them!


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