Originally Posted by leonardicsr (Post 11690713)

Someone would like to pair up for a sim prep on the 21st of July on the 380 with PMflight?

Originally Posted by wannabecadet (Post 11690719)

I’d be keen!

Originally Posted by Treestripe (Post 11691771)

I’ve been at BA 1 year 5 months now. In that time 300 DEPs have been recruited behind me on the 320 fleet so I’m 50% on the seniority.
This month and last month I’ve been working 6 on, 2 off pretty consistently. Actually one month recently I worked 6 days of reserve, 1 day off 6 back on.
The irony is, I lived in in Italy before for low cost, and commuted home on a 5/4 full time roster. I spent more time with my partner in the U.K. then, and we live together now. My social life is non existent atm.
What worries me now about my choice to move to BA is that I regularly fly with people in the LHS who have been in company 10+ years and are so annoyed they still can’t get weekends off to be with their family. Their seniority is >70% on fleet after a decade and they don’t know what to do about it other than apply for part time.
So options now, go longhaul. That’s why I wanted to come. However it doesn’t look roses there. 5.5 trips a month from what I see with 2 days off inbetween but at least less time at Heathrow. The other option is go part time to gain some normality in my 30s. But I feel I shouldn’t have to go part time to live a normal life. Last option is to do what a good handful including one of my joining coursemates has already done and leave.
I really was happy about joining BA in the beginning, despite a really shambolic onboarding process, I enjoyed the first few months of new countries, a handful of nice hotels and I once got upgraded on a long haul holiday. Now I’ve realised how it’s impacted my life and I don’t see it changing. New joiners won’t move up the list as fast as I have so will be stuck at the bottom for a while and they will be short for a long time.
it’s so antiquated now that I think there’s a problem, how can they convince the guys and girls of Ezy etc to give up fixed pattern, the ability to plan your life for the year, regional bases, decent money etc, to come to a place so complex with the promise of weekends off once in a while somewhere in the future and to spend most of your life away in the meantime.
Give it proper consideration, I did. I’m hoping for the long run, but starting to lose hope when people after 15 years feel trapped. I wonder if I’d got my command at previous and part time how much more simple life would be.

Originally Posted by Raph737 (Post 11691858)

I declined the offer in the end because I went on a trip with my partner, and got the chance to speak to the flight crew about rosters, work life balance, salaries etc so I ran a mile. I compared everything and felt it wasn’t worth the pay cut.

Plus, I witnessed some improper conduct during the recruitment process that I felt it was unfair and unprofessional. I asked the chief of pilot recruitment about it so we could have a chat and she never replied. So I told them to stick it and looked elsewhere. The process is biased, that’s all I can say here.

It is not what people think, if you want to tell people down the pub you fly for BA, then great. But they own you, say goodbye to social Life. I had a look at both shorthaul and longhaul Airbus and Boeing rosters. They work harder for less money, into LHR which is stressful too.

Originally Posted by iFunFlyer (Post 11692178)

Roster pattern is more stable on LH from what I’ve seen. 2-3 days off after every trip quite consistently which results in approx. 12 days off a month with 5.5 trips.

Not sure if it is more work? Is it more work than 2-4 sectors a day x 5 days a week?

Originally Posted by Raph737 (Post 11691858)

I declined the offer in the end because I went on a trip with my partner, and got the chance to speak to the flight crew about rosters, work life balance, salaries etc so I ran a mile. I compared everything and felt it wasn’t worth the pay cut.

Plus, I witnessed some improper conduct during the recruitment process that I felt it was unfair and unprofessional. I asked the chief of pilot recruitment about it so we could have a chat and she never replied. So I told them to stick it and looked elsewhere. The process is biased, that’s all I can say here.

It is not what people think, if you want to tell people down the pub you fly for BA, then great. But they own you, say goodbye to social Life. I had a look at both shorthaul and longhaul Airbus and Boeing rosters. They work harder for less money, into LHR which is stressful too.

Originally Posted by ClearedToNowhere (Post 11692700)

Odd one;
Are “SNCRs” a thing up the golden road at LHR?

Originally Posted by White Van Driver (Post 11693515)

what is an SNCR?

Originally Posted by ClearedToNowhere (Post 11693525)

Wonderful, I’ll accept that as a no! :ok:

Short notice refusal or something like that, mate of mine at big orange was saying they get X amount per year and they can call crewing and just refuse duties, even up to and after check in time. Blew my mind.

Originally Posted by 122.85 (Post 11693528)

Wonderful because you don’t want those at LHR to have something you don’t have at LGW?

Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 11693532)

They can refuse changes to their duties (if the new check in is earlier than 2 hours or the check out later than 2 hours than the original duty), within 48 hours, not flat out refusing duties

Originally Posted by R T Jones (Post 11693639)

The theory sounds good… but they are not as helpful as you’d think. Original finish time of 1300, changed to something else finishing at 1730. Great, short notice change refusal please. Now onto airport standby finishing at 1500.
Roster stability at the big orange in summer is just a myth.