Exciting times,March Rosters have Prestwick tagged for a couple of visits.
RW31 has 3,5deg Glide and personally having conducted such detail with ab initio,I would have chosen Shannon or Chateauroux.
Good luck regardless.

you couldn’t pay me enough to go back to CX with some of those skippers, BA is a much nicer place to work by far.

Sorry to take us off on a slight tangent...

Anyone know what the basic salary is for Cityflyer DEC into LCY? Basic and expected average income? Thanks

Surely the SPA cadets wouldn’t cause longer waiting periods for long haul DEPs though?

it does as the cadets go onto short haul which releases an internal FO onto LH.

ah so the usual integrated flight school entitled lot

I was training both sides of covid and there was a lot of ‘letter writing’ and outright agitation that went on from certain segments of the school at various stages. The worst offenders were always the ‘tagged’ students. Even though all had only conditional job offers and almost all were there thanks to mommy and daddy’s money the sense of entitlement from certain individuals- most of whom had come straight out of school- was hard to stomach.

I was a MPL myself but made every effort to keep out of these activities, I even had to explicitly ask to have my name removed from a couple of emails where my name had been included without my permission.


funnily enough much of this noise ended in March 2020.

on the whole most grew out of it by the time they got to the line but you still hear about plenty of the same names making a name for themselves amongst the company/crews and more than a few have found themselves under extreme scrutiny for their attitudes

I’d hope BA management find a way to put the fear of god into what is no doubt a vocal minority who may or may not speak for many others. This job is a privilege and the least tolerable trait in it has to be a lack of humility

(I’m not a BA employee and have no aspirations to be)

Year 1 DEC Basic is £105,000. Variable Pay around £14,000 for around 700hrs.

All base training has been rostered in the system as PIK for a million years. Actual destination decided the day before / day of.

How is the career pathway restructure going? Are Cityflyer going to be integrated into MSL as part of it?

Both items still work in progress, slowly, with no end in sight. Talks between Mainline, CF, and respective BALPA CC's ongoing yet any major progress isn't shared as such. Despite that, all parties agree this is the furthest these MSL discussions have progressed, in the 20+ years it's been rumoured to be happening.

I very much doubt it.

We’re still waiting… but there’s been no hint or anything of cityflyer joining the msl.

I see, so the usual CC modus operandi

I mean this as a genuine open question - not a loaded one.

I can see why BACF would like to join; and even why the company would like the lists to merge (quite a large and cheap carrot for recruitment …). But why would any mainline pilot want BACF join the MSL? I can only see negatives.

I have never heard even the sniff of a rumour that there has even been a discussion about BACF joining the master seniority list. As the above poster says - what would be in it for BA pilots? I don’t see that ever happening.

Not a chance mainline will allow that to happen, no benefit to the pilot body only to those who joined somewhere else and now want something they are not entitled too.

What Representing their members?

IMO...Never going to happen. It has been "about to happen / under discussion" for years, decades even.

Operating out of LCY is expensive in comparison due to its restrictions, therefore there is no incentive for BA to raise this further by allowing an MSL merge to happen.

So 12+ days off a month? On average is it 4 trips a month on the Triple? With seniority, the RHS of the 777 seems a nice place to see out retirement..

A quick skim through junior March P2 777 rosters and I’d say 12+ days off and probably averaging 4.5 trips in a full month. (Some have 4 and some have 5).