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Chauderon 17th January 2024 14:02


Originally Posted by Prob30Tempo TSRA (Post 11577891)
Thats illegal , and they’d have a field day at an employment tribunal . Do you work for them ? I’m trying to work out this axe you are grinding

I want safe and legal employment for pilots and cabin crew in Europe (shouldn't be too much to ask in 21st Century aviation). That's not axe grinding, it's highlighting and campaigning - here at least so that prospective pilots know what's going on.

If you don't stand up to illegal practices, then the race to the bottom continues unhindered.

BarryMG 17th January 2024 14:52

Funny, many years in Wizz and I've never heard of anybody having problems due to fatigue report (submitted a few myself), nor do I recall any recent directives being issued to the crews...Did I miss something?

Prob30Tempo TSRA 17th January 2024 15:05


Originally Posted by Chauderon (Post 11577930)
I want safe and legal employment for pilots and cabin crew in Europe (shouldn't be too much to ask in 21st Century aviation). That's not axe grinding, it's highlighting and campaigning - here at least so that prospective pilots know what's going on.

If you don't stand up to illegal practices, then the race to the bottom continues unhindered.

True , but pilots never “ stand up “ because they know there’s another 1000 potential cadets who can’t wait to get an Instagram photo with some stripes on right behind them who’ve spent a ridiculous amount on their training .

What I mean by axe to grind is - if you don’t work for them you are either quoting second hand , basing it on Chinese whispers or making it up -

Chauderon 17th January 2024 15:19


Originally Posted by Prob30Tempo TSRA (Post 11577968)
True , but pilots never “ stand up “ because they know there’s another 1000 potential cadets who can’t wait to get an Instagram photo with some stripes on right behind them who’ve spent a ridiculous amount on their training .

What I mean by axe to grind is - if you don’t work for them you are either quoting second hand , basing it on Chinese whispers or making it up -

I have the fortune of not working there but have read the recent fatigue directive. It’s a rumour network; take it or leave it.

arrak0z 17th January 2024 16:06

how does it look like in terms of base transfers?

enzino 17th January 2024 20:05

There are waiting lists, but apparently now DECs get the spot in some bases, and this is pissing some off - including me!

TBSC 28th January 2024 20:31

Hard work? I spat my coffee. Looking good on IG and LinkedIn def helps to be a good apple though. As does relaying company messages on forums.

Giuff 29th January 2024 06:25


Originally Posted by sannegibson (Post 11585030)
It's hard work but very rewarding. You can climb the career ladder quickly and apply for additional roles if that's what you wish. The 5/4 roster is excellent for commuters too

Serious?

380Mrat 29th January 2024 09:13

Wizz Air are a bunch of immature Managers
 
Even inquiring about difficulties to log in or if obtaining the type rating independently disqualifies your candidacy in this fastidious company they want to refer an Airline. There is a German lead pilot recruiter named Philipp Metzger. He is acting as though he is some wing commander of Luftwaffe. Childish at best with a dictatorial orifice.

A321drvr 30th January 2024 04:07


Originally Posted by 380Mrat (Post 11585665)
Even inquiring about difficulties to log in or if obtaining the type rating independently disqualifies your candidacy in this fastidious company they want to refer an Airline. There is a German lead pilot recruiter named Philipp Metzger. He is acting as though he is some wing commander of Luftwaffe. Childish at best with a dictatorial orifice.

There's always one of those. In my time it was an allegedly "ex-Lufwaffe, fmr-been there done that everything, don't need to be a wannabe coz i got the t-shirt while teaching the birds to fly". Luckily he buggered off to RYR leaving a gaping, radioactive and pest infested hole behind him which couldn't been fully covered up to this day (of course the covid bad apple thingy pulled the scab right off that scar). If actions of a single individual in an organization can deter a pilotgroup forever getting together and organize then he should get an effin gold medal for that effort.

Delta42 1st February 2024 22:57

It seems Wizz is sending pilot assessment dates to anyone who applied, at least for cadet entry, a couple of my mates got their email yesterday.

Giuff 2nd February 2024 21:18


Originally Posted by Delta42 (Post 11588325)
It seems Wizz is sending pilot assessment dates to anyone who applied, at least for cadet entry, a couple of my mates got their email yesterday.

Desperate club

papalovesjumbo 2nd February 2024 23:09


Originally Posted by Delta42 (Post 11588325)
It seems Wizz is sending pilot assessment dates to anyone who applied, at least for cadet entry, a couple of my mates got their email yesterday.

As far as I know they were to restart hiring FOs around summer. Im flying around 50h/month due to engine issue etc. Last year closed +850h.

Many(I mean Many) FOs left for their country. I bearly know anyone from my assesment days/or Type rating group who are still with us. Some considered ME majors.

Growth expected second half of this year and next year with engine returns + new deliveries I think we wont be able to sustain ops at peak25.

lets see how it goes from here.

Cheers.







austrian71 3rd February 2024 18:22

cheap
 
Its cheap in many ways, cheap tickets, cheap employees and its cheap to climb career ladder, have been there, got my t-shirt, happy I disappeared. People staying too long are self responsible human, nobody to blame, just a heads up to think about if you really wanna stay cheap for ever......

a1egre 20th February 2024 21:11


Originally Posted by Nikker (Post 11536150)
Agree with papalovesjumbo .

I was fired from wizz during covid only to be recalled a year later and yet I don't hate this company as much as pprune.
SFO net salary on my contract 5,5k on average. 6,5k in summer with 100h/28d. If you go out-of-base you can add 1-2k on top depending on the base. Commuting sucks as much as everywhere else. Rest like papalovesjumbo mentioned.

Yes,it is indeed pissed pilots rumor network.

Hey! Student Pilot here! Can anyone tell me how is the salary/contract with Wizz Air, let’s say Bucharest maybe. What figures could I expect as FO, SFO and CPT. (Please state gross or net). Thanks!

argyrisrc4 21st February 2024 07:57

Hi everyone,

I applied yesterday for NTR low hour fo position.
I received a mail with a link to fill flight hours etc, but after i filled and submitted it nothing happened.No confirmation , or "application received" mail.
Is that usual?

LandingGear60 21st February 2024 10:01


Originally Posted by argyrisrc4 (Post 11601175)
Hi everyone,

I applied yesterday for NTR low hour fo position.
I received a mail with a link to fill flight hours etc, but after i filled and submitted it nothing happened.No confirmation , or "application received" mail.
Is that usual?

I applied two years ago to WUK. Similar fashion I never heard back and still haven’t except from a random email from them about 11 months later that didn’t explain much. I’ve been an FO at another airline for a year now and still never had a real response from Wizz.

Giuff 21st February 2024 11:18


Originally Posted by argyrisrc4 (Post 11601175)
Hi everyone,

I applied yesterday for NTR low hour fo position.
I received a mail with a link to fill flight hours etc, but after i filled and submitted it nothing happened.No confirmation , or "application received" mail.
Is that usual?

Wizz have plenty of cadets for the next year or so.
I suggest to try other routes.
Best of luck.

a1egre 23rd February 2024 20:17


Originally Posted by papalovesjumbo (Post 11536138)
So coming back to pprune after longtime and skipped a lot pages as its crazy time consuming.
almost 2 years in the company now. And had ups and downs for me but overall pretty happy with Wzz although I understand that grass could be greener like everywhere else.

Really not other crazy options around better except your own country’s major or go to Ezy at your homebase.
In an Eu market where ryr charging 30-40k for type rating and/or expensive aps mcc and then no salary till base teaining, no yearly bonus despite billions profit, crew meals, tightening the belt over flight crew to the max. Im quite happy my only consern is our local GH is payed peanuts and we have gpu or bus delayed.
1,5 years in company in 2 years upgrade if I work hard.
Im also lucky where Im based we dont have double tax issues and My net local contract salary as a junior Fo with bond payment deducted etc has never been less than 3.2k most had 3.7k. (SFO goes around 4.5k-5-5k) net values…
other jfo friends in otherbases remain around 2.5k depending on the flying and/or contract. Im only telling my personal situation.

Regarding fatigue, you are around 900h/year like most lowcost. FOs are okay but Captains are still going 90-100h/month but I fly with more and more happy captains with reverse roster, I fly with one and come back with the other. So those magenta presentations are slowly being implemented and actually makes a the difference.

the unhappy people are right because their situation is different. I have no kids or wife at home. So I settled in my base. But if you have kids in west where you dont have direct wizz flight, you can suffer.

I realized only unhappy people (sometimes rightfully) make their way to pprune and I wanted to be an exception.

Anyway there is no company in eu other than some legacies where you sign the contract and pack your bag, print your boarding pass received from company, show up at TR location where a company driver takes you to company booked hotel with some training salary dropping since day one and at 4th year upgrade perspectives.

overall good compay for my profile.

cheers

Hey!

Student Pilot here!

Could you please message me the details for a Junior First Officer and SFO at WIZZAIR?

Thanks!

AngryZoomerCaptain 25th February 2024 17:43

Hello everyone,

I am currently looking for assessment dates with Wizz Air Direct entry captain non type rated, anyone else did one recently ? Can I expect ATPL questions or ? I have no clue what type of cheese a Mercator is, and I have forgotten all POF formulas, and the rest.

Peace,

Prob30Tempo TSRA 25th February 2024 20:57


Originally Posted by AngryZoomerCaptain (Post 11603850)
Hello everyone,

I am currently looking for assessment dates with Wizz Air Direct entry captain non type rated, anyone else did one recently ? Can I expect ATPL questions or ? I have no clue what type of cheese a Mercator is, and I have forgotten all POF formulas, and the rest.

Peace,

I haven’t but been offered it in the past . I reckon a months lead time and use one of the commercial preparation packages like Pass. There’s seems one of the hardest assessments with lowest pass rate

EatFlyRunRepeat 28th February 2024 07:31

Wizz UK assessment
 
Hi guys anyone done an assessment recently in the UK for a SFO position? Be grateful for any info regarding the interview process etc… Thank you

papalovesjumbo 13th March 2024 00:45

Money
 
For those asking about money,

FO= 0,022€/KM (GCD) , 12€ Landing , Basic 21k/Year
SFO= 0,0429€/KM, 21,47€/Landing Basic, 26k/Year
CPT= 0,0769€/km, 37,2€/Landing Basic, 45k/Year and +4k/year to your basic for every 1000h Pic flown in company.
If bonded you should do -5000€ from yearly basic for 3 years for TR.

- At 1500h factorised you are an SFO. at 3000h if ready, you have a shot for upgrade.
At my base yearly kms, basic salary and sectors calculated and devided by 12, gives around 5k net for SFO and 9k net for CPT. This may vary significantly with the country and local taxes etc. The calculation above is for around 850h/year.
- Roster= If expat, on bases with +3 or 5 planes (dont remember exactly), you have 14/7, 5/4, Flexible. but 5/4 first day off can be rest day so dont count on it too much if you want to go home to the west. Best is reverse roster if you live in a place with at least 4 flights to your base you can reverse with somebody which is ''Heaven'' acording to some colleuges.
- Again, This suits me good as I live at my base but if you have kids and wife from a small town in France, best to go for Volotea or something while waiting for AF. If you are from a major city with wizz flights, you will be fine.
From my experience people are nice and viberent. And overall ambience is nice. The only thing I would like in the futur is the HP bidding rules to improve. The rest is same low cost standarts.

Enjoy your flights,
Cheers,

Another_French_Pilot 13th March 2024 00:47


Originally Posted by Delta42 (Post 11588325)
It seems Wizz is sending pilot assessment dates to anyone who applied, at least for cadet entry, a couple of my mates got their email yesterday.

A320 TypeRated, FI with 800h (no on type only Base Training) : not any news from them in 3 months.

slickjam 5th April 2024 23:13


Originally Posted by AngryZoomerCaptain (Post 11603850)
Hello everyone,

I am currently looking for assessment dates with Wizz Air Direct entry captain non type rated, anyone else did one recently ? Can I expect ATPL questions or ? I have no clue what type of cheese a Mercator is, and I have forgotten all POF formulas, and the rest.

Peace,

I suggest you brush up a bit with one of the preparation sites. Interviews are mixed so you get cadets, experienced FO and CPT both TR and NTR. Up until the SIM the assesment is same for everyone. First step is a computer based exam. 60 minutes and if i recall correctly around 40ish questions. Mix of company-related questions like how many aircraft they have, who is the CEO etc. ATPL theory questions, nothing too crazy they are balanced in my opinion and its stuff you shoud know, minimums, fuel policy, runway and taxiway markings, lights, METAR or TAF, like stuff you actually use on a regular basis. I recall only one weird question it was about how many firefighting vehicles should be on a certain class of airport or something like that. High school math with, volume, time distance speed, if a wheel has a certain diaemeter how many times it have to roll to complete a certain distance. Division, multiplication with big numbers. Like multiply 35067 x 3242. No calculator, pen and paper. If 5 workers complete some task in x amount of time. How long it would take for 9.
There is 2-3 chart questions and i remember they are a bit tricky, The answer that seems obvious is wrong so take your time with that. Once you finish they will split you in groups for the group excersise. With some ridiculous task, goal is not to complete but they watch you communicate. After that they will let you know the results from the first exam. Some stay, some go home.

After that HR and Technical interview, 2 guys, one observing and taking notes the other one talking to you. This will obviously depend on your experience and varies wildly, with some guys they really went deep into technical stuff. Also if you give a wrong answer is not an automatic fail I found out. I nailed the whole thing it went really well until the last question. I don't remember what was it but i was confidently incorrect. They asked me if i am sure. Im like yeah sure. They laughed and told me that once i leave the room i should read up on it. Then you are finished for the day. You will receive an email if you should go for day 2. In my case it was super late because our group was more than 90 people. Next day they will organize you into groups for the sim. Its early, like 5AM. Briefing before that. They told us that no feedback will be given and do not ask for it.

Cadets go with cadets, NTR experienced together and TR experienced together. So sim will depend on that. If you are type-rated pretty much guaranteed to get an emergency. You do both PF and PM around 30-40 minutes each.

After the SIM they will tell you shortly if you passed or not. You go for the aptitude tests. I mean the usual **** like COMPASS test but it's not called that. The most annoying part is the psych evaluation. It's like a stupid amount of questions many asking for the same thing and you have to reply on a scale like strongly disagree to strongly agree.

Results can vary. Some guys received the pass or fail while walking out. For some it took weeks.

Good luck!

SeZo82 6th April 2024 11:54

May I ask you, how many time did you spend in the holding pool? After the congrats mail how many time did you get an offer?

EatFlyRunRepeat 6th April 2024 13:13

Offer
 
I got the email offer after a week or so …

cheff92 6th April 2024 14:02

Hello guys,

How long does it take for them to offer you the assesment date once you submitted the application?

Manish013 7th April 2024 14:31

Q
 
Hi everyone,
Do they offer local contract ? Or via broker ?
Thanks.

Pilotdfthomson 7th April 2024 16:02

Thank you so much for your input, greatly appreciate it! With regards to the preparation sites, can you recommend any good ones that are similar to the actual Wizz test?

Thanks in advance

fl13 7th April 2024 18:01

How are things at Wizz UK? I'm hearing it's a 40k bond, for 5 years for cadets. This seems a lot, they must be losing a lot to other airlines, does anyone there see things improving?

PAPI-74 8th April 2024 07:29

Define improving?
Giving you a type rating and letting you leave after 6 months for free?



dirk85 8th April 2024 13:46

The bond has never stopped anyone from leaving Wizzair, and good luck to the company if they try to enforce it in court

fl13 8th April 2024 15:44


Originally Posted by PAPI-74 (Post 11631269)
Define improving?
Giving you a type rating and letting you leave after 6 months for free?

No, just how are things generally. What's the culture like, how's the roster, are people happy there etc. 5 years is a long time to commit, worth knowing what it's actually like to work there.

Vulka 8th April 2024 19:33

Hi guys & girls

As you probably know there is a kind of roadshow-assessment for experienced FO and Capt(invited only) around Europe; Rome, Madrid, Bucarest etc

They also call ”assessment “ does anyone know if the program is the same they use to have in Budapest; technical test(FO) technical interview and SIM if successful?
I don’t understand if all the selection process start and finish in this slot or if this is the first step before the final assessment in Budapest later on.

Not really clear for me! Thanks for any feedback!


jojo218 9th April 2024 08:19

I have been waiting for almost a year now and still nothing

Giuff 9th April 2024 10:49


Originally Posted by fl13 (Post 11631624)
No, just how are things generally. What's the culture like, how's the roster, are people happy there etc. 5 years is a long time to commit, worth knowing what it's actually like to work there.

Stay clear. Extremely toxic place.
Better jobs out there right now.

fl13 9th April 2024 11:31


Originally Posted by Giuff (Post 11632080)
stay clear.Better jobs out there right now.

Could you elaborate? do you work there?

Plastic787 9th April 2024 15:39

Not much changed then in over ten years.

Nonsense12345 9th April 2024 18:00

Not the best airline, far from it. That much is clear.
However, there are not that many options for those freshly minted CPL ME/IR pilots with a frozen ATPL and 250TT. Especially, if they do not speak the obscure language of any small country at a native level and haven't completed some insanely expensive training at the legacy airlines' own schools to have the opportunity to work for them.

Are all of these better jobs here with us in the room right now?


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