And they’ll receive a five year freeze for that whopping three sims on the Operators Conversion Course.
(Dons flak jacket, retreats to safe distance).

I hope that’s for short haul only? I reckon there won’t be too many 74/77/78 rated guys and gals in the pool. Seeing as one has entered the LH pool as a regional jet jockey, one hopes to receive a call :)

Thanks for any updates from within lads! Much appreciated.

From what I gather, there is no LH pool. There is a BA holdpool. Might not be the news you want, but managing expectations and all of that.

(Hope you'll get what you applied for of course, but be prepared for something else).

Of course, theres only one pool. Should’ve been more precise. I applied to the LH campaign back then. If a SH position comes around I’ll be happy to take it! It’s just being passed by type rated guys left right and centre is sometimes not easy. But it’s their train set!

Well that’s 3 RYR guys I know of, off to BA. 1 747 and 2 777. If they were plucking rated LH DEPs out the pool then clearly they’ve exhausted them all, that or they’re just going down the list in order. Either way it’s good news for you Saab. Especially as their last email said they’d be no DEP offers in 2018. You’ll get your call soon don’t worry.

Plucking type rated guys out the pool is understandable. Last I checked, I’ve not received anything that says we’ll be called in the order we entered the pool. Very very first email mentioned that, ‘when matched with a pilot position in the airline, you will be contacted and given a verbal offer.’

I wonder if people with a 737 rating will have a shorter course? I know, bit far fetched perhaps but I do believe Qatar airways did do a shortened course for small boeing to big boeing.

Perfectly understandable if they have a huge need for Airbus guys and need em ASAP. It’s all good news to be honest. From no DEP to at least a few :)

No it won't be a shortened course, far from it!

Any idea of split between LHR/LGW?

On the SH airbus fleet leave buy back is now being offered for this summer for both first officers and captains.

I presume this is very positive news for the hold pool pilots.

The latest company newsletter states rated DEPs joining the 777 in April, with more to come. Also anticipates DEPs on the 787 later in the year. Add that to those I know one way and have had long haul offers recently, there seems to be a fair bit of movement again all of a sudden. Good news for all!

Goes to show that any news from pilot recruitment, who, like everyone, are subject to the vagaries of the Big Plan, is accurate up to 0.01ms after the send button is pressed.

Ain’t that the truth...though you might need to revise that figure to 0.001 milliseconds due to the introduction of JSS..., which, rumour has it, is leading to some of the current difficulties with predictions/forecasts regarding manning levels... .:oh:

It will be interesting to see how this plays out for everybody over the next few months:

For those already “in” will Bidline monthly rostering get a stay of execution? (edit to add: Just read something that might lead one to believe there might indeed be a temporary reprieve..though that would lead to high CAPs..there's a surprise)...

For those waiting to get into BA just how quickly and by how much will the level in the hold pool be lowered?

Anyway has been said by previous posters it can only be good news for the hold poolers, though of course 0.001 milliseconds will be up by the time you have read this.....

On the subject of leave buy back I can’t see a big uptake as the deal is not very good.

I for one have no intention of giving up eighteen straight days off in peak summer for all the tea in China, especially as the CAPs this summer are likely to be so high. I’m acutely aware in part of the irony that the CAPs will remain high as a result but some respite will be needed.

For those in the pool (and prospective poolers) planning on travelling to/from LHR/LGW by using staff travel

... you might need to know that we have found out from the union overnight that BA are going to be quite proactive from now on in checking how and when people have travelled into base prior to work - they have just announced a two month audit.. This to ensure crewmembers comply with the latest rules BA have come up regarding personal travel into base and subsequent rest at base prior to a duty. At the moment it seems BA are only going to look at those who fly in using Standby tickets or the discounted commercial tickets available to staff.

I’m sure for the vast majority here that won’t be a deal breaker but be careful about planning a lifestyle based on flying into base the same day as report, or at the very least owning up to doing the same...that might cause problems :rolleyes:

Double standards methinks. Especially as British Airways’ own policy for a home standby (ie being allowed to drive two hours to the T5 Car Park) technically contravenes what they consider as being rested. Yet sit back in an airline seat for a (in some cases) 40 minute flight and you’re under the microscope as that’s apparently more fatiguing. It’s sickening.

Is it too early to say exactly how much this is going to drain the pool; potentially leading to more recruitment later in the year?

Rex

Absolutely....

banterbus

Yes..see previous comments about plans at BA being valid for at most 0.01 or 0.001 milliseconds...

]TBH many drivers can't "get from home.... and report to the LHR reporting point all within two hours".........even on a good day.

That said people are going to have to live with this (or make plans to plan to live with it if they have yet to join - just said that to keep this on thread).

Rumours are starting to circulate that once the flying commuters have been audited to the company's satisfaction then some of the utterly crazy driving commutes that we all darn well know go on will get looked at.

What are these latest ba rules for commuters. You must plan adequate rest. ie overnight hotel if you reside more than 2 hours from base?

And how will they enforce non-compliance. Temporary removal of staff travel?

Devil is in the detail and I may well have got this wrong but as I read it even for short haul commuters ( so MAN, GLA, AMS etc) it looks like 12 hours "rest" required between arriving at base using what BA call "personal travel" ( which seems to defined as traveling to base by air) and report for any duty...there is no mention of a local night or a room being required, just "rest".

In fact to my uneducated eye there appears to be room for some sillyness in the rules as written..for example it looks like you could beat the system by getting up at sparrows dodah to arrive at LHR at 0800, hang around in a coffee bar, not working, watch iPlayer or something all day, and then be legal for a 2000 or later report, OTOH you could sleep in at home till gone midday, fly into LHR arriving at 1900 and be deemed illegal for the same report....:bored:

IMHO probably much much more understandably there are more restrictive rules for Long Haul "commuters", even those experiencing a minimal time zone change.

No idea where we are with "punishment"....as yet we are looking at a two month audit. Just a IMHO but hopefully worse that would happen to a transgressor first time round might be a *****ing and a note on file...I wouldn't like to test the system too often though, the rules are in the Ops Manual and I wouldn't like to be the first one up against the wall.