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whimsahoy 20th December 2015 11:49

Drowning in the holdpool
 
Hi all,

I've been in the holdpool since before the summer 767 rated, unfrozen but havnt quite got the hours for long haul. I doubt I will make the hours up by the time I'm due to drop out. Can anyone shed any light on whether short haul recruitment may kick off again for non rated people?
Cheers

bex88 20th December 2015 14:08

Pick up the bone to LC or LA. Sure they would be happy to talk to you

lfrk 20th December 2015 16:24

Hi Guy's

I am french, mid 30's and A380 F/O with Ek, expecting left seat within the next year.
Looks like that BA is coming to DXB for roadshows to find type rated 380 FO.
I am seriously considering trying to join, even if it means a big pay cut and a long time on the right seat.
Couple of questions if someone has the answers that would be cool.

-Is there a lot of guys commuting to france or south of Europe?

-Salaray when joining is around 54000 £ what about after 4-5 years. Cannot find the pay scale anywhere.

-Upgrade on the 380 or LH, 10-12-15years?

Ek is good to me so far, but I don't see myself and familly staying here more than another 5 years.

Tay Cough 20th December 2015 17:28


Originally Posted by lfrk (Post 9216262)
Hi Guy's

I am french, mid 30's and A380 F/O with Ek, expecting left seat within the next year.
Looks like that BA is coming to DXB for roadshows to find type rated 380 FO.
I am seriously considering trying to join, even if it means a big pay cut and a long time on the right seat.
Couple of questions if someone has the answers that would be cool.

-Is there a lot of guys commuting to france or south of Europe?

-Salaray when joining is around 54000 £ what about after 4-5 years. Cannot find the pay scale anywhere.

-Upgrade on the 380 or LH, 10-12-15years?

Ek is good to me so far, but I don't see myself and familly staying here more than another 5 years.

I'll let someone else discuss the pay points.

French commuters? Dozens, probably hundreds. If you include cabin crew, possibly more.

Left seat A380. Plan on twenty. It's a smallish fleet and those skippers who are there will want to stay. Many new Longhaul captains are aged around 40 so will be there for a long time.

Hotel Mode 20th December 2015 17:49

Long Haul FO increment is just under £3000 per year.

Commuting no problem on the 380. Of the daily departures there are 3 FO slots on 3 day trips (will be 5 for part of summer), 6 on 4 day, and 6 on 5 day. So the majority of trips are longish, most get back early, none too late for flights to France, and only 1 of the reports (2 in summer) isn't commutable from France on the same day.

You aren't tied to A380 for upgrade, but, it will be long time if you don't want to fly another type. A350 may be less, and A320 certainly much much sooner.

Right Engine 21st December 2015 06:52


Originally Posted by Hotel Mode (Post 9216325)
Long Haul FO increment is just under £3000 per year.

Are you sure? With The 34 Pay points? Or are you talking about your contract here?

Flying Wild 21st December 2015 13:22

Anyone who attended assessment day 1 last week heard back yet?

bex88 21st December 2015 17:55

It's about 1500 on the new pay points

Mr Angry from Purley 23rd December 2015 15:43


Commuting no problem on the 380. Of the daily departures there are 3 FO slots on 3 day trips (will be 5 for part of summer), 6 on 4 day, and 6 on 5 day. So the majority of trips are longish, most get back early, none too late for flights to France, and only 1 of the reports (2 in summer) isn't commutable from France on the same day
Hotel Mode
Might need a read up on the new Crew Members responsibilities under EASA and FRMS.
If your commuting in and operating say in the evening to HKG if something happened you might be in some bother....
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DDobinpilot 25th December 2015 03:25

Hey guys,

Merry Christmas! Just wondered if anyone has been able to find any good software in order to practice the computer based ECAM tester we now have to do on day 1? The one with TCAS problems etc.. I have been looking around online and can't really find anything that would be of any use.

CAT3C AUTOLAND 25th December 2015 12:06

SinBin,

We stay at BA to fly with you mate :E

Have a great Xmas in your new gaff :ok:

Doug E Style 25th December 2015 17:42

Apparently, the number of boys being christened "Nigel" is at an all-time low; only ten in the UK last year. I wonder if BA's recruitment team are worried.

Tay Cough 25th December 2015 20:35

The current campaign is also expecting to recruit a few named Nigella. := ;)

Airbus Unplugged 27th December 2015 07:33

No doubt the prospective Nigels will have read all about 'new shorthaul' arriving February.

Bidline has been 'switched off' for shorthaul, and you can now have 12hr 4 sector days and 10hr nightstops.

Think very carefully my friends, this is not going to be pretty.

Juan Tugoh 27th December 2015 09:21


Bidline has been 'switched off' for shorthaul,
Pure and unadulterated horse poop. Bidline cannot be "switched off", it is part of the contract and the industrial limits cannot be overridden just because EASA has changed the FTL's. Any changes to the duty rig must be negotiated with BALPA. The most limiting of BLRs or the EASA FTL's will be the worst case. We are bidding for February at the moment and there is very little difference in SH. There will be bigger changes for LH where Back to Backs are no longer being rostered, either voluntarily or otherwise. Yes, there will be changes but no worse than every other company is facing and actually with a lot more protections than most.

Make yourself miserable with doom laden scenarios if you must but try to keep some element of reality in there - or just leave the profession, you will not be missed.

no sponsor 27th December 2015 09:24

Unless I've missed something, which is entirely possible, bidline rules have not been replaced, or modified. 10.4.1 still applies.

Arewerunning 27th December 2015 09:27

Hallo folks!

I wonder, if they offer me LH can I later on bid for SH command or I am somehow freeze for 5 years on type?

thx

eckhard 27th December 2015 09:27

SH lines for Feb look exactly the same as those for Jan, apart from the addition of some ORY standover days :)

chocolateracer 27th December 2015 09:38


Originally Posted by Arewerunning (Post 9221337)
Hallo folks!

I wonder, if they offer me LH can I later on bid for SH command or I am somehow freeze for 5 years on type?

thx

Yes you can bid whenever you want. You will also incur a 5 year engagement freeze. This is for BA's benefit only. If they want to honour a bid of yours within your 5 year freeze then they'll move you. I believe what happens here is that you'd incur another 5 year freeze (for your new type and called an equipment freeze) plus any remaining from your engagement freeze.

Good luck!

stranotipo 27th December 2015 09:59

I keep getting this. Any idea how to solve it?

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