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wiggy 19th December 2017 12:42

Problem is whilst there might be a basis in fact ( usually starting with somebody running a feasibility) I think those rumours can become circular...the extra 380 rumour also has been running eslewhere, not just on pprune or flyertalk but there's still nothing concrete. On an in house forum it started last week but in that varient it was triggered by someone claiming he had heard a story from a senior cabin crew member who had served Mr XXX who had told him that , etc etc...

As for specifically the 777W rumour, all I can say is that in all honesty that one wasn't circulating even amongst the BA 777/77W community in the last 24 hours so forgive me if I for one take it with a pinch of salt, at least for now...

That said over the years rumours have always been that BA would take more 777Ws if they could get them, much more so than 380's.... so if you want to go with a rumour I'd go with the 77W one.

( Tin hat on, retires to safe distance........................, and add's rider that with it being BA anything could happen tomorrow..))

Edit to add: ETOPS that belatedly rings a bell and would make a bit more sense - unlike fleet expansion I doubt a one for one (or three for three swap) would raise much comment if/when that happened..

WonderBus 19th December 2017 14:20

I’ve heard TAM 77Ws to replace our old 200s, so no new extra frames, just replacements for the old originals.

Retrojet 19th December 2017 15:13

Is it possible they might pushback retirement of the 777-200's and some of the A319/320's that are due to go soon....even for 1-2yrs to source newer aircraft for the LGW expansion?

ETOPS 19th December 2017 15:44

Pay attention WonderBus I just said that two posts up :ugh:

Mizar 22nd December 2017 08:16

Any comments on the webinar chat of Wednesday?

VJW 22nd December 2017 09:23

I forgot to dial in- probably tells you all you need to know

CXKA 22nd December 2017 09:58

Probably only good news if you are rated.

VJW 22nd December 2017 11:57

Or you have zero experience and a £120k debt with a licence still hot off the printer

Retrojet 22nd December 2017 14:36

we shall have to wait and see what mid January brings.....

Mizar 22nd December 2017 14:47

According to what they said I am estimating about 250 holdpoolers currently floating

CXKA 27th December 2017 08:57

I think there will be quite a few LH aircraft rated in the pool also looking to join from ME and HK airlines.

wiggy 28th December 2017 07:09


I can’t help but think BA are more interested in costs than gaining experienced pilots these days
That’s a “given” across the entire operation, not just pilot recruitment.....

Ea300 31st December 2017 09:18


Originally Posted by CXKA (Post 10002447)
I think there will be quite a few LH aircraft rated in the pool also looking to join from ME and HK airlines.


That would be some serious pay cut and reduction in benefits!

2 Whites 2 Reds 31st December 2017 09:25

Would it really? What benefits are they losing? Last time I was in Dubai everything was astronomical. The cost of living out there must be huge and HK isn't any better.

In any case, there's more to life than money. Home vs Sandpit.....no competition whatsoever. Unless it's purely out of necessity, I can't imagine many people making the decision to stay or go based on money.

CXKA 31st December 2017 09:36

From HK its about a 60% cut but you have to look at the bigger picture, cost of housing, standard of living and pollution. Personally for me its an easy decision to return home, money is not everything.

Mizar 31st December 2017 11:14

What about BA's part in the purchase of Niki by IAG? Does anyone think it is going to be a positive aspect for recruitment?

dirk85 31st December 2017 11:17

Well they have committed to hire Niki pilots as part of the deal, I doubt that will affect BA recruitment much.

Plus the conditions at Niki were beyond awful, and I do not expect them to improve.

GS-Alpha 31st December 2017 11:44

It is reported that Niki is to operate as a Veuling subsiduary so it is highly unlikely to have any effect on BA recruitment.

Retrojet 1st January 2018 17:26

Looks like BA are wet leasing Qatar aircraft...but at least its only for a short time...possibly just to get the ex monarch slots expansion going....

"British Airways Plc applied on 4 December 2017 to wet lease six Qatar registered Airbus A320 aircraft, registrations A7-LAA, A7-LAB, A7-LAC, A7-LAD, A7-LAE, and A7-LAF, between 9 February and 9 April 2017 inclusive.
The application has been made on the grounds that the lease is justified on the basis of exceptional needs (Article 13(3)(b)(i) of Regulation (EC) No 1008/2008) to enable British Airways to support passenger operations due to late delivery of aircraft."

http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/2258.pdf

G SXTY 2nd January 2018 12:58


I think there will be quite a few LH aircraft rated in the pool also looking to join from ME and HK airlines.

That would be some serious pay cut and reduction in benefits!
About a 50% pay cut in my case.

As for 'benefits', let's put it this way. I now have union protection and no longer fly to war zones, or have to endure 45 degree heat and dust, infuriating bureaucracy, mad locals razzing their Ferraris at 3am, 'wasta', the call to prayer, punitive company culture, etc etc.

BA ain't perfect, but it's a lot better than most alternatives, and a different world compared to what's on offer in the Middle East. Wild horses couldn't drag me back to the pit.


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