Well it’s swings and roundabouts, I wasn’t happy and have taken the leap . I am now happy , was in the wrong company .
Upset that I never received my 100 year badge .....

Me too! A year in at eJ and haven’t worked a single early shift yet :)

It’s very sad that any UK airline has such a bad terms and conditions that people are looking to leave. You would have thought BA would have been dead man (women) shoes. I wonder how many are unhappy to the point they are considering leaving TCX or TUI. Surely BA must be wasting a lot of money each time someone leaves.

as far as I can tell no. Because you need to ATPL
to be acting pilot in command on a 3 crew trip when the captain is on break.

Correct. OM-D refers. Full ATPL(A) required for APIC duties on A380/B777/787/747 types. I’d imagine that to be the case for A350 conversions too.

I was offered 787 about two months ago if that helps.

I think it more depends on your experience, type etc, as I know another guy that was offered SH and was told they couldn’t consider him for long haul.

It could be that they unfreeze people during the training?

TAM beat me to it ....I don’t want to do a cut and paste from the relevant source but I’ll offer this, which may or may not help....

Managed Path/DEPs can begin a conversion course with a CPL (A) only if they have the hours to upgrade to an ATPL(A). By the time they reach the final line check they must be able to present a full ATPL(A)...

Thanks to Eddie, Foss, airmission, and wiggy, as I suspected, just couldn’t find the relevant reference!

I honestly don’t have an issue with anyone leaving BA. Crack on! Everyone has different situations and needs and if somewhere else ticks the boxes then go for it! BA is neither better or worse than Easy - it’s impossible to make that distinction for everyone because everyone wants something different.

What I would say is that lots of people leaving is a good thing because the one thing management understand is a rise in training and recruitment costs and so that can only help improve t&c in the long term to promote retention.

That’s a question for someone from VS, possibly in a VS thread. As far as BA are concerned any non ATPL on longhaul fleets would have a restriction placed on their flying duties because the Ops manual states they can not operate as Acting Pilot-in-Command.

An expensive mistake for VS perhaps! Recruiting MPL direct onto a LH fleet(A330) looks good to the Accountants, low salary pilots etc. But only a couple of route sectors/ landings a month with a Training Capt. surely won’t work, and ties up your Training staff for a long time. Good work if you can get it though on almost continuous Caribbean trips. Apparently none of the VS MPL recruits are checked out yet as P2 after two years or so. So transferred to EZY with VS paying the salaries.

Not quite correct Cessnapete. Course 1 is out on the line, albeit after about 100 sectors of line training. Course 2-5 is at or off to Easy for a year or so which was probably the most sensible decision made in relation to VS’s dabble into the Cadet world.

An important info for people living abroad and thinking about applying for BA and commuting:

BA has recently published a guidance regarding Brexit. As a commuter not living in the UK, according to this guidance and a risk assessment done by BA, only EU nationals who live in the UK will keep their rights to work in the UK after March 29th in case there is no deal...

My advise would be to look elsewhere. Commuting is a pain, the british government is unstable, company is being annoying with commutes, conditions are like the braking action in Moscow in the middle of the winter: medium to poor!

By the way just to put things in perspective, AF pilots just got a 4.7% payrise on top of the 4% that have been given already to all employees at the end of last year, so basically a 8.7% payrise for our French legacy airline pilot colleagues!

I’m not sure that is a “given” ..yet....but the situation is highly complex and from what I have seen and heard, e.g. via yammer I suspect the company are scratching around to provide a definitive answer....for info and background have a look at this:

https://www.freemovement.org.uk/free-movement-no-deal/

I certainly agree things are almost certainly about to get much more complicated for any EU27 nationals, as for your other points, yes, inclined to agree.

The expedite request worked well for me, although this was a few years ago. I’m pretty sure as you said you would just need the licence in hand by the LST.

Standing by to be corrected but I thought U.K. government had said it would continue to recognise “EU licences”, certainly in the event of a negotiated Brexit.

They have said that but some companies aren’t taking the risk. I don’t think it’s guaranteed yet and the CAA are still working on it. So I’ve been told anyway.

Understandable given the circumstances (whatever they turn out to be :confused:)

i have the exact same issue. I thought it was a browser issue so I downloaded google chrome but apparently you just have to keep refreshing the screen at 9am for newly released slots a friend told me? Seems a bit poor to me so was thinking to phone and check.

That is the official stance from BA. Although I would take that with a pinch of salt, it seems like they’ve just put that in place so people won’t moan about getting SH cause they can just say it’s due to performance. As always, they will just place you where they need you, if they happen to need to fill a lot of SH slots and you perform very well in the sim, you still might get offered a SH position.