Emirates DEC positions now open!
 

I thought this might have to happen at some point, but I still can't believe my eyes!

Good luck to all those who apply.

https://ekgrpapplications.emirates.c...AD3E6059F3E34D

:ok:

Ryanair's summer just got a lot worse! Great news.

I don't think EK will be looking for Ryanair captains as their first choice...

I know a lot more than 5 with wide body experience and over 10000 hours.

They took them in the past. EK aren't exactly in an ideal position so they will take what they get which is why they have reopened the DEC route in the first place.

Rubbish.Ryanair pilots have to endure a fair amount of snobbery. Probably justified,given that Ryanair has ruined the industry in terms of passenger experience and crew terms and conditions. However Ryanair pilots are generally very proficient. They have to be ok given the intense nature of the whole horrible operation and challenging little place's they fly too.Cue Carcassonne,one of many beauties.

Having spoken to people in Emirates - its universally known that Ryanair pilots are specifically targeted. Not exclusively of course,they recruit from every airline but Ryanair in particular.

They know the Ryanair 'product' and are very happy with it. Seems reliable from a HR and training perspective. Now they want more of that reliability - in Captains.

Emirates have a fantastic internal knowledge of Ryanair,more so then any other airline they recruit from due to the volume of guys joining. They know the SOP's and realise they are very stringent and strict,they know the 'politics' in ryanair and how difficult it is to leave and they know how disgruntled its pilots are.

They know they will receive more Ryanair applications then any other airline. They will like this. I also believe they concocted and made allowances for this with their DEC hours and experience requirements.

Emirates HQ will be like any other Ryanair crewroom in due course. Whisper figures of at least 700 former ryanair pilots being recruited over the next couple of years. That seems conservative

God I hope not!!! Please say you have a printer that works:sad:

I met an Emirates recruiter at the Dubai Airshow, and he specifically said they design their recruitment process around the amount of days off a Ryanair person can get. It was this which encouraged then to start the initial interview over here before travelling to DXB, according to him. So I can well believe the floodgates may open soon.

Does that mean they'll have that stupid trumpet every time they arrive in Manila?

Absolutely true. Its known how difficult it is to leave Ryanair's various 'contract agencies'. Therefore the pre-selection process is perfect for Ryanair guys doing a day here and a day there. Then the time in Dubai is lessened and can be done on their 4 days off, no 'sick days' required.

Also advice is often given to hand in the notice only when the required hours are attained,not even 5 shy. As invariably guys are given 3 months of unpaid STBY's for their 3 months notice period instead of 3 months of standard flying hours. Utterly horrible but it has happened to a few unfortunates in the past,who then couldn't join due to not meeting the requirements.So even if you have 2499 hrs,do not hand in your 3 months notice - your not out of the woods yet,your not even guaranteed that 1hr in the next 3 months.

Good luck to you RYR guys, even though I have no love for the EK 'machine' I hope you can escape from that awful weasel who owns your airline and has :mad: up the whole industry in terms & conditions for employees. :ok:

At a seminar last week our CP stated that he expected to lose some expensive Capts from the top third of the seniority list and he was quite content with this situation. Also, he expected the initial successful applicants to be those with training ratings. Bearing in mind our company and the head of training at Emirates have a previous relationship, I would not go eyeing up potential property in the sandpit yet.

Can anyone tell me what the DEC package would be worth for a family man with two kids?

Hi Shadowsonclouds

can you flesh out your 'definitely the right move' comment, please.
many thanks

Well put Shadow.
I came from low cost European flying and it was a complete shock to the system. ILS to ILS is the easy part. We really are spoilt flying in European airspace :}

DEC Captain Pay - Emirates
 

I was looking into the numbers and trying to figure out exactly how much on average a Captain in Emirates takes home. Any EK Cpt who could fill me in?

All the Emirates website says is the following:

Basic pay + Flight pay (85 hours): 41 240 AED/Month (8352 EUR / 11228 USD)
Additional pay: ??????????

Average month total: ?????????

I actually thought the pay was higher, like 20 000 USD/Month. Are these figures correct?

The Fo's at our firm that have recently gone have taken roughly the same as their UK salary (towards the bottom end of the jet scales) but take it tax free, which is the biggest benefit. Everything else available is really to do with housing and schooling costs. Good money, but t'aint a get rich scheme anymore.

Dream on Pitot Tube,

If the pay was that good they would not have to advertise.

Anyone know the max age for DEC Capt position? 58 now.... I know, flame away!!

Just in time to relieve those being shafted by the Cathay tax fiasco. :ok:

toro,

Don't blame that awful weasel that owns RYR, blame the pilots that sold their soul.

WTF...
 

https://ekgrpapplications.emirates.c...Vacancies.aspx

says..
For DEC..

A minimum of 7000 hours total flying time (only front seat time on turboprop and/or turbojet aircraft can be counted).
A minimum of 3000 hours command time on multi-crew, multi-engine commercial jet aircraft with an MTOW of 50 tonnes or more.

Yet I received an automated reply as

Emirates' minimum requirements for this position are:

Captain

*A minimum of 10,000 hours total flying time.
(May include 25% P3 or FEO time to a max of 500 hr)
*A minimum of 3,000 hours in command of an EK aircraft type or a minimum of 1,500 hours in command of a multi-crew, multi-engine jet aircraft in excess of 55 tonnes MTOW and 1,500 in command of an EK aircraft type
*4,000 hours flown in multi-crew, multi-engine jet or turbo prop aircraft with a MTOW of 10 tonnes or more, as P1 or P2.
*Preference will be given to candidates with Boeing/Airbus EFIS experience who
will be eligible to undertake a short transition course.
*Must be a current Captain operating as PIC within 12 months of joining holding a valid type and instrument rating.


Which will it be? or is it that Someone, as usual, is lagging behind...:ugh:

The first, website snag!

I did a short - well short in relative terms - test application and got an immediate reply within 2 days that I'm in the short list pool. They seem to like me update regularly my hours, so maybe they want more of them.

I guess I have the right ingredients, but I think I'm a little short of wide body hours (less than 1000).

Are any non-type rated B777 or A330/340 guys getting invited out? Just curious. Thanks all.

Just got an answer back stating I don't have enough total hours.
I have +- 7400 total of which 7100 on a/c above 55T.
4100 command hours.
No widebody experience

I have 12000 TT including 5000 CPT and LTC on A330 and more than 7000 CPT longhaul (B747 and A330) plus 2000 CPT jet.
Is that DEC openning interesting for me?
I am afraid not just because the salary and TCs are not good enough!!!!!
EK will get what they are paying for.
Hope guys (FOs) from inside will be thank for the time they gave to EK.
Why don't EK hire TREs from outside for a short time contract (very well paid and in agrement with other airlines) to train senior EK FOs waiting for their medal?;)

13000 hrs, 8000 command on 55+ tonnes, but no widebody time. Not a cheep.
I can understand it, they are probably hoping for big bus or big twin time, even RHS would help, I guess.
Hold on, that would be an EK F/O, then...

Max age at EK?

Hi there Captjins!
 

Why bother?

You look like a confused man: first you tell the world how happy you're at Jet Airways, at the same time you run to Japan for a Skymark interview (good luck, btw!) and now you're about to taste the sand pit.
This is curious at your probably age, isn't it?:confused:
May I suggest you to hire a professional consultancy firm.

14K total, 7k command on WB, applied 2 years ago for F/O position...........never got a reply;)

South Prince
 

Just curious - 14k TT + 7k 55t at the age of 22??

South Prince, you can not include your remote control toy plane time when you were a child toward your TT :=

And I suppose the people who put that they are 1 and live 'wherever crewing them to be' are actually 1 year old geniuses that have no fixed abode because of crewing.

South prince if you are flying for some fly by night on an L1011 using a Garmin 196 for navigation and a wet finger for weather assessment then don't expect a call.

'For information on our recently updated terms and conditions for Flight Crew positions...'
Anyone has an idea of the changes in EK?

7/3k minimum, start at B777/A330 TRE and work down! I think FR might be ok!

Max age is 56 according to memo.

Direct Entry Captains?

Holy Cr@p. Just looked at the application form. 18 pages!!! I would fall asleep doing all that and seriously need to be commited to expend such valuable energy.

Don't mind the desert, wife happy with the idea-she is not a whinging Pom or Aussie, worked in bigger :mad: than Dubai, occupied cockpits with egos bigger than Charlie Sheen's, worked for some world class airlines and even trained and checked in same so I think I might just fit in and and be reasonably happy.... except.

How much do they pay?

I spoke to an ex EK Captain/Trainer/Checker who left two years ago and after ten years said his pay was around USD20,000. This includes housing and or accom right? Me says. No, he says.

So humour us all who are lurking and MIGHT be interested (particularly if you work in recruitment, training or management).

What will a new DEC take home?

Will EK pay for all my school kids "core" education or are there caveats?

What is the current standard of accomodation for new hires?

Well, I was going to give you some inside info, but then saw your crack about Aussies.

Not the best way to ellicit help....

What does it matter here? A declared age in an anonymous forum or the fact described? good luck to all:)