So for the guys who have been told they are in a hold pool. Is that a pool prior to further stages or was it a yes you passed the interview and are now holding for a start date etc. :ok: How many got through?

A lot of people who applied are ETOPS and 757/767 rated and haven't even been called for interview.

Sadly, they are not desperate. This is not a pilots market at the moment. Jet2 can be as picky, and choosy as they see fit.

Hopefully this situation will not last! Good luck to all who have sourced employment, and good luck to those still looking!

What do those who have been offered a contract think of the offer? As far as I can see it is considerably worse than the initial 80% or even 70% permanent part-year contract that was mentioned at interview. Not only is it fixed term, but it is only 7 months of flying, so for an FO looking at £23-24k for the summer. Better than nothing though - good luck to those still waiting on a response from Jet2 or waiting in the holding pool.

Penworth,

I’m not sure that it is any worse than what was discussed at the interview! Only down side is the reduction from 80% to 70% which is unfortunate, but driven by market forces! It was always only going to be 7 months of flying, regardless of permanent or fixed-term offers.

In many respects, the fixed-term contract is not devaluing the position as you will be paid the same rates as any permanent FO within Jet2.

The salary is still pro-rata and you should clear in the order £2700-£2900 p/m, by the time you take sector and duty pay into account, which if we’re honest is not a bad salary at all!

There are no hidden agendas or abnormal upfront costs that others seem to ask for. All in all, I personally feel it’s a good offer in the current climate.

Who knows – keep your nose clean and they may just offer a permanent position…

Best of luck to those waiting to hear and treading water!!

A few yes's but any no's
 

Had interview in Nov, got told I would hear by the 14th, rang on 16th and 22nd still no news, just wondering if no news is bad news or have people been told their results positive or negative and I might still hear something good.

DEMD
Surplus to requirements summer 2010

Chickenstrips

I just meant that instead of £29k per year (for an FO) on a permanent deal, its been reduced to £24k on a fixed contract for the 7 months of flying. I agree though that it in the current market place it's not a bad deal.

Yes any work is better than no work, but that is not a good deal by any standard. Get a job with a turbo prop operator, some are recruiting, even ones with what I thought was sub standard terms and conditions are better than that deal. You'll earn more than that and it'll be full time. Im a little disappointed because I actually thought when I move on from regional turboprops I'd improve my t and cs not sacrifice them. That said good luck to all those looking for work and have applications in process.

£29k for 7 months work is equivilent to appx £42k basic (full time), plus of course there is sector pay and hourly allowances as well (adds to about £50k approx PA). as someone said not bad! Which turboprop operator pays circa 50k pa for first officers?

Sorry I miss understood I thought that was 29 or 24 thousand per annum and 7 months pro rata. If your an sfo with a few thousan hours there are direct entry command opportunities in some turboprop companies earning more than that, which is an option to consider, get some command experience during the downturn.

bluepilot

Yes, it might be equivalent to £50k, but the point is you're not getting it!

What you're getting is circa £29k for 7 months work - which is the same as a turbo-prop FO working full-time.

So unless you can find alternative employment for the remaining 5 months, you might as well be working full-time as a turbo-prop FO - was the point that was being made.

KR

FOK

Or one could take the view 'Why should I work for 12 months when I can get the same money for only working 7 months!'

Very true about why work twelve when you can work seven, depends if you still enjoy flying? I don't feel like three days a week under six duty hours a day, and earliest report of six latest I'm home is half nine as hard work. I'm just suggesting an option for those who want to still fly regularly and have a reliable income. My rate per hour is pretty good in that sense. That's why a lot of us are hanging on to this career isn't it, the flying?

Errr, which TP operators would they be?

Spanner

Carpat Air (Romania), OLT (Germany), Darwin (Switzerland) and Eastern Airways (UK), all Saab 2000 operators and have all recruited recently, I expect Eastern to recruit again soon, always worth a c.v. Once again good luck to those looking for work. I would imagine familiar faces from Globespan to be already lined up for a position at Eastern.

Oh and I stand to be corrected but Ive just remembered I think Logan air were asking for applications in the last few weeks, at least there has been talk of interviews at work.

PaulW

Ta.

Spanner

757
 

Had 'the call' :ok:
Good luck to anybody else waiting.
Happy new year.

Yea me to. They offered me FO, 757 ,LBA, 70 % permanent deal with perhaps the chance of 100 % after the Summer.

For me though, I couldn't accept it. I am lucky enough to already have a job ( which is full time / permanent ) ,so I could not justify risking no work in the winter. Also, I could not survive on such a salary decrease on the 70 % deal either.

It's a real shame, because from what I saw and talking to the people I met at the interview, it seemed a friendly Airline to work for. It would have got me home to West Yorkshire aswell. I still can't believe that I had to turn it down.

If I had known that the only contract on offer was 70 %, I wouldn't have bothered filling in the application form, only because I knew I couldn't take a cut in salary. Maybe they will start offering full time , permanent positions in the future, who knows.

I understand that there are many Pilots who have applied to Jet2 without jobs at the moment. I wish you all the best and hope all goes well for the future.

Take care.

Interesting that 75 guys are being offered permanent 70% work whereas I and some others I know on the 73 have been offered a fixed term contract for S10 only. Anyone been offered a contract that contradicts this trend?

Anyone on the 75 fleet been told a definite no yet?

The Website now has a link for Direct Entry Type Rated Captains for both 757 and 737 Fleets. Have they recruited the required number of F/O's and only require Captains now? How many have heard a yes or no for the 757 Fleet. Seems like a smaller number than the 737.

Any further news regarding the recruitment at Jet2? Or have the numbers been meet for 2010.

With 757/767 drivers walking the streets, why is PARC advertising the jet2 jobs ???

All sounds horrible & good luck to all of you guys seeking to put food on the table.

Was this on Flightglobal or the Parc website itself. Have they been unable to get the required people from the recruitment drive?:eek: How many got offers and how many have accepted a place?

Jet2 really need to stop cocking people around and let them know where they stand. Interviews in November now that its January are well over due a reply, whether it's a yes or a no.

Anyway good luck to all those concerned. :rolleyes:

I think the FlightGlobal advert proves that, in spite of hardship caused by the recession, some pilots wish to retain their dignity.

KR

FOK

FOK
 

Your assertion of retaining dignity is a little sweeping to say the least. Its a matter of horses for courses.

My mortgage is paid and kids have fled the nest. I have no need (or desire) to work full time and Jet 2 don't need pilots lounging at home in the winter months on full pay. I dare say that there are many more like me out there too. On the contrary it is nice to have an option such as this, 58% work for 70% pay gets my vote.

Good luck to all who are still waiting for news.

Safe flying

Selection Day on 15th January!!!
 

Hello evrey1!!

does anyone been invited for selection day of Jet2.com, on Jan 15th from Leeds Bradford...??? for the position of CC....:bored:

I'm not involved in Jet2 recruitment, and only a minion, but the DFO told us in December that they would be using agencies for some of the crewing needs, as was done a few years ago. In addition we are also recruiting for permanent and contract positions directly.

One additional 757 is coming and 2 737s. However, obtaining the second 737 was proving difficult, so maybe the actual fleet numbers are in question, but I'm just guessing.

Really? Don't make me laugh! Just how hard can it be in the current market to find a 737 hull.........:rolleyes: Sounds like they aren't really trying........

PP

PM is very particular about his aircraft, if it isn't spot on he won't acquire it. So there may be lot's of 737-300s out there, but if it isn't the right hull at the right price then forget it.

For those joining next year on whatever contract welcome, I think you will find it a satisfying place to work.

It's not perfect, but give me imperfect and paid any day of the week! I have been her just over 4 years and am very happy.

Rudolf.

I heard somewhere he is ex RAF? Is this true?

Not sure why you would need to ask that. If he is ex RAF so what?

Anyway being particular about aircraft is one thing but there certainly is no shortage of hulls out there.

The real issue here is that the guys and gals already interviewed deserve either a yes/no or a bit of feedback to let them know why the delay.

Come on Jet2! A bit of feedback for the potential troops please, good CRM and all that.

Please don't emulate the pikey from Dublin with poor comms :ugh:

The RAF thing was just a question. "Please Don't emulate the pikey from Dublin with poor comms?" What do you mean by that?

Yes but Ryanair do not leave anyone wait that long for an answer. Be it for command positions or cadet. The "pikey" he refers to I am presuming he means MOL, is not from Dublin he is from W.M.

Spot on bluepilot.

Come on Jet2! A bit of feedback for the potential troops please, good CRM and all that!

There are more rounds of interviews..............

PM is ex-RAF.

I met him in Kent many years ago when he was flying a red Jaeger sponsored Pitts (helped him man-handle it into the hanger on several occasions).

If my memory serves me correctly he flew Hunters in the RAF. He left, became British Aerobatic Champion and flew airshows in the Pitts during the 70s.

I know we had a good laugh at the tales he told in the bar and he used to stay in the clubhouse bunking down with the rest of us (in his own bunk I hasten to add!!!).

He seemed a great bloke - this was before his motoring and aviation exploits so I have no personal knowledge of the PM of today.

KR

FOK

Something to do with general condition, but also floor spars, plumbing and all that gubbins. Apparently quite a few are set up for legacy carriers, and it is quite an expense to convert to a low cost cabin layout.

The industry is truly in a terrible state with people are queuing up to sign up for a "permanant" position which leaves them unpaid for 3 months of the year!

Seeing as Willie brought Ryanair into this I'd like to remind people of a thread regarding unpaid leave at Ryanair last winter. Up to 1 month unpaid was proposed however it worked out at 1 week unpaid at 2 bases. This spawned 20 pages of outrage with responses such as:

"Madness. RYR have dragged this industry to the depths. They force every one else to follow them down. "

and

"The sort of fools who lap up the 'any job is better than no job at all' guff probably also believe that Gordon Brown is now the saviour of the world economy. The term gullible just doesn't do these morons justice. If Ryanair could fill its cockpits with these spineless tits (as opposed to the 60% we already have) then our pay would be considerably worse than it already is. There would be no lower limit to what these types would accept rather than confront the issue of erosion of their pay and conditions."

And when a couple of posters suggested there was little they could do about it and a month's unpaid leave was better than no job at all they received:

"The best way for you to assist progress (if thats what you really want) would be to crawl off somewhere and die."

and

"In a word, filth. You make me sick."

That was all down to one week unpaid, all very emotive but I guess that's Ryanair for you. Possibly the only response worth reading in that thread was a rather prophetic one from a poster called Gnirren:

"The real issue to watch out for is that companies want their employees to be contractors. It's a bean counter's wetdream, nothing but contractors to bring in and dismiss according to business needs. Job and income security for the crew? Gone. This will happen in many more so called "good" airlines in the coming years."

It feels like the first step towards our jobs becoming seasonal with Jet2 leading the way.....

Pineapples, I fear your deduction is correct. We are all on a slippery slope (snow pun not intended :bored:)

I guess that Jet2 will let everyone know as they see fit. Patience is a virtue afterall, so I'm told..