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northern boy 15th November 2009 08:31

Was interviewed last week. I was told pretty much what crosswind limit said.
70% part time would be ok for me but may not be acceptable for those sitting on offers from elsewhere or having to factor in commuting costs which don't apply to those resident in the frozen north.

Before anyone asks, the interview was as advertised and described elsewhere.

Just waiting and hoping for a break now.

holyflurkingschmitt 15th November 2009 11:29

Is there any Manchester based 75 drivers out there can pm me a typical summer roster.

I take it with a 70% contract we'd be maxed out every month through the summer for 29k?

Thanks in advance guys

HFS:ok:

Ps at the interview i was told it would be an 80% contract, which i now take has been changed?

Dieu et mon droit 15th November 2009 14:08

timeline so far
 
There seems to be a common question here, hope this helps those in the dark...
So far - I submitted my application around Oct 20
They phoned me middle of the last week
Offered interviews this week, and 2/3 8/9 Oct,

Took the early option as I thought its better to be in the system soonest.

incidentally 4500TT, 1500 737FO,

DEMD

Special Limitation 15th November 2009 17:40

As a MAN based captain I worked about 480 hrs this summer. We had 3 Capts sick for a lot of this time who were not replaced. When telling this to FO's I fly with they turn green with envy, so I suspect they are working less than this. Hope this helps.

Baron buzz 16th November 2009 10:43

600 hours eh? No different to any other charter airline I wouldn't think. I've done about that too.

How many guys and girls are Jet2 looking for?

Is the rumour about 767's true? What does everyone think about that?

bluepilot 16th November 2009 10:47

767s have been rumoured for some time now....however the CEO has now confirmed to the shareholders that it is the intention to add longhaul routes in 2010/11. Also rumoured that two airframes have been sourced etc.

Baron buzz 16th November 2009 10:54

So if longhaul is to be added, then surely that will mean further pilot recruitment? Longhaul as we all know is quite crew intensive.

A very brave move too, if true. Especially as in a few years TOM will be launching the 787 (maybe). I guess Jet2 will be able to offer much cheaper fares.

DooblerChina 16th November 2009 11:23


I guess Jet2 will be able to offer much cheaper fares.
Thats what they said about XL & Zoom. Longhaul is a different animal. A brave company to try the loco/longhaul model again.

DC

bluepilot 16th November 2009 11:33

quote : Thats what they said about XL & Zoom. Longhaul is a different animal. A brave company to try the loco/longhaul model again

I think the idea is to offer holidays through jet2holidays.com, similar to thomson / thomas cook etc. Yes it will require alot more crews!

Baron buzz 16th November 2009 12:23

I agree it takes a strong business to make long haul work successfully - especially in these times. Selling holidays is probably the only way forward and there will always be demand for good value (cheap?) holidays to places like Orlando, DR, Cancun etc.

I'm sure Jet2 would be able to undercut TOM and TCX. Would LBA be a likely place? Is the runway long enough there?

EGCC4284 18th November 2009 23:09

Saw this today whilst in WHSmiths

The words long haul and ETOP's stood out


General Manager-Flight Training - United Kingdom - Aviation - 200641541 - Flight Jobs

Job Position: Permanent
Location: United Kingdom
Job Hours: Full-Time
Job Role: Aviation
Company: Jet2.com
Salary: Competitive Package
Posted Date: 17 November 2009 10:18:29
General Manager-Flight Training - United Kingdom - Aviation

CAA Nominated Post Holder

Jet2.com is the North's leading and expanding leisure airline, with a fleet of 737 and 757 aircraft and a dedicated and progressive pilot workforce. As our plans unfold into 2010 there is a requirement to appoint a General Manager - Flight Training to help shape our future.

This high profile and critical role reports to the Flight Operations Director and is responsible for the delivery of the highest standards of classroom, simulator and flight training. In this key position you will take responsibility for the continual improvement and development of our pilot training to achieve the highest standards of efficient operational flying and safety across our fleet.

This position is demanding and exciting and will require a passion for training delivery and excellence. A key focus will be to build strong relationships across our pilot population and ensure we maintain our consistent high standards.

You must clearly be an experienced Training Captain, preferably with long haul, wide body and ETOPs experience. You will also need project and budget management skills. In addition you will have worked in a fast paced and progressive airline and will now be looking for your next career move. This opportunity requires energy, dedication and a passion for training quality.

If you would like to be part of our future then please apply online at our website.

no sponsor 19th November 2009 08:09

AC is leaving? To where?

no sponsor 19th November 2009 08:15

I guess Ade will recruit a few more too.

Artie Fufkin 21st November 2009 14:35


The words long haul and ETOP's stood out
As did widebody.

Obviously those infamous 767s are still "in the hanger being painted". :bored: (Longest paint job ever)

speedy688 21st November 2009 15:10

Anybody know how long it takes from interview to find out?

highflyer321757 21st November 2009 16:16

I have just been on interview (as described; informal chat about CRM, Company, HR stuff, very friendly indeed and lasted for an hour) and I was told that interviewing will be ongoing over the next few weeks and that we all know the outcome by letter before xmas (no SIM evaluation).

Apparently the letter will either say thanks but no thanks, congratulations with starting date in March OR with the offer to be kept in a holding pool.

Good luck to all :ok:

northern boy 21st November 2009 18:43

I reckon that the most likely scenario is a position in the hold pool, probably for a year or so until things pick up elsewhere and people leave and/or they expand again.

The very best of luck to all those who have been or will be interviewed. Tough times for us all and very much a buyer's market at the moment. Anyone with an offer already, congrats. Spare a thought for those of us waiting.

holyflurkingschmitt 23rd November 2009 07:00

I was told at interview that 2x76 are on the cards, one will be based at Man and the other Ncl, Performance issues out of Leeds. Thats why 75/76 drivers with long haul, ETOP's experience are been sort.

I was told the bases on offer were Man,Ema,Ncl one new 75 coming and a Leeds 75 heading to Ncl. 2 x76 coming 2010/11.

HFS:ok:

northern boy 23rd November 2009 10:32

Well, with a bunch of Thomson drivers possibly looking at redundancy in the new year I can see why they are taking their time deciding who to make the offers to.

I've been quoted 20k to revalidate my 737 rating, I can do a 757 from scratch for the same price. I fully expect a PFO letter despite a good interview and many years of long haul, because there are so many 75/6 peeps floating around. If the gods really are smiling, maybe the hold pool but I cannot justify spending that amount of dosh unless there is a definite offer at the end.

Looks like the job centre come the new year.:sad:

757 Speedbrakes 23rd November 2009 16:22


I was told the bases on offer were Man,Ema,Ncl
I'm surprised you were told EMA places were on offer to new entrants??

There are quite a lot of names on the base transfer list and as I understand it, it will be done on seniority (which, too be honest, is how everything ought to be done in Jet2 now growth has dropped off and there are many SFO's who are appraching or have attained command hours).

Although having some more wide bodied, ETOP's experienced guys is highly needed if J2 eventually start doing more 'pond-hopping' routes.

highflyer321757 23rd November 2009 16:59

757 speedbrakes,

Jet2 has NO seniority system in place...

Dreamshiner 23rd November 2009 17:49

767 last type flown, application at beginning of October, still waiting for even a "piss off" or "hey we like the cut of your jib". Not ideal.

bluepilot 23rd November 2009 18:23

An internal comunication said that base transfers to EMA would be by company seniority if oversubscribed.

According to the internal base transfer list it is VERY over subscribed.

EGCC4284 23rd November 2009 19:41


20k to revalidate my 737 rating
Why so much???

northern boy 23rd November 2009 20:52

Because it's been more than 5 years.

Crosswind Limit 24th November 2009 09:51

I would hazard a guess that if cheap/temp contract labour can be recruited for EMA, then that is the road Jet2 will take rather then transfering existing relatively expensive pilots from other bases - unless of course you wish to volunteer for part time.

BALLSOUT 24th November 2009 14:38

northern boy,
just because it has been over five years since a rating has lapsed there is no need to spend a fortune revalidating. The requirement to revalidate is "retraining at the descretion of the TRTO". I myself renewed a type rating a few years ago. It had been lapsed for eight years after having flown 3000 hours on the type. I had since flown about 5000 hours on two more types. I renewed it with a writen test on systems, and an LST.
For a 737 I would expect this should cost a couple of grand.

freightdoggy dog 24th November 2009 17:03

The lure of the Beautiful South...then again one Essex lad is moving north to EMA :ok:

northern boy 24th November 2009 19:35

Ballsout, thanks for the info. I have been talking to OAA about this and their initial response was along the lines of what you say, however I asked them to confirm and it seems the rules have changed due to JAA regs. I need to do pretty much the whole thing over and that involves 30+ hours in the sim, despite 4000 odd hours on Boeing aircraft since the 73. At current sim rates thats knocking on the 20k mark, including TRI/TRE and the groundschool element. If there was a definite job at the end then I could at least take it to the bank but spending that kind of dosh to renew a rating already in my licence on a maybe/maybe not is a bit much. Incidentally, the 75/767 rating costs the same! Probably more useful in terms of J2 as well. Still waiting to hear from them post interview. Not holding my breath but one can always hope.

757 Speedbrakes 24th November 2009 20:05

Crosswind Limit; Your close........

There is no financial re-emburssment (even though our contract states we're entitled too) for those wishing to relocate a little further towards 'Gods Country'.

This is mostly because, if you ask for it, there will be someone behind you happy to relocate for free, so they'll get it. There is however, an offer of up to 5 days in a hotel should it be required.

As mentioned previously, there would have been an outcry had new joiners been given a base that those currently type rated in the company, had already applied for.

Crosswind Limit 25th November 2009 08:33

Firstly I would just like to wish everyone on the base transfer list all the best in acheiving your objective. I know being based at or near home makes all the difference to one's quality of life.

Just as I would wish everyone on the fleet transfer list the best of luck in acheiving their transfer - but then we know how that has ended. And it seems Jet2 has managed to avoid much of an outcry by justifying their decision one way or another. Its not about the staff, its about the bottom line.

I hadn't realized that a 757 was to be transferred from LBA to EMA. If that proves to be the case then I take the point. I had thought the "new" 757 was to be based in EMA and that extra capacity/aircraft for NCL was for the summer only. In any case the summer is a long way off and we all know how quickly things change.

I wasn't implying that a base transfer would cost Jet2 very much. Only that if qualified applicants were willing to accept 70% on the basis they were based at EMA, then I would not be surprised to see Jet2 accept those applicants over base transfers, with the one exception of course, and justifying it one way or another.

Best of luck.

BALLSOUT 25th November 2009 11:28

northern boy, I think the mistake you are making is that you ask them to confirm the requirement. Once you start asking the CAA that sort of question they move quickly into an ass covering mode and just tel you no.
If you just chip up at the desk with the paperwork signed by the TRE for the revalidation they would probably accept it, that's what i did. I know it's a daft question but I assume you have tried FR? even if you offer to pay them the full wack for the revalidation it would be woth it. 55 new aircraft deliveries over the next few months and need lots of new skippers.
Good luck anyway.

757 Speedbrakes 25th November 2009 15:28

.....or Fly Dubai if your happy to move :bored:

Dreamshiner 25th November 2009 18:27

Can't help feeling the original post on this thread has been forgotten and off topic about 50 posts ago. Feel free to start new threads on re-basing and revalidation of TR's and keep this for people who aspire to be able to put in a re-basing request.

FlyingOfficerKite 25th November 2009 20:39

Okay!

Following on from the Post above:

1) Has anyone received an 'offer' of any kind?
2) Has anyone without a type rating been interviewed?
3) Does anyone know if this is a renewable contract - or is it just for the 2010 season?
4) Does anyone know if 'contracts' are available as opposed to employment through the company (that is through a personal 'umbrella company' or 'limited company' account)?
5) Does this 'contract' marry in with the rest of the company vis-a-vis promotions and the like?
6) Does anyone know the mind of PM - this recruitment drive seems adorned with 'maybes' and hidden agendas - anyone know the 'truth' - or is it combination of 'fishing' exercise together with an element of wishful thinking regarding future expansion and other factors relating to both the company in particular and the industry in general - which can only be guessed at?

KR

FOK

KUMOOZ 25th November 2009 22:01

FOK

If point 6 is speculation then I was lied to at interview.

My understanding is that this round of recruitment is for expansion in 2010....other elements were given to me in confidence, though it seems to be common knowledge, or some informed guessing is going on :D

mackey 29th November 2009 16:15

Has anyone had an offer yet, just wondering the ratio of "Heres a job or PFO"?

Jetavia 1st December 2009 00:05

I applied.. have heard nothing.. not even PFO :-(

FD3S 3rd December 2009 12:30

Anybody else been asked to complete verbal and numerical reasoning tests following interview? I was verbally offered a job recently but now have been told these tests need to be completed before contract offer. Anyone else in the same boat?

EGCC4284 3rd December 2009 12:55

FD3S

Are you type rated?


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