no punk i dont see why people pay to fly.enlighten me please?if jet2 had an endless supply of people like you willing to pay to fly then why oh why would they ever hire and PAY an f/o to fly.these pay to fly schemes only contribute to destroying the career you wish to join.think long and hard about pay to fly schemes:ugh:

In the current climate, 500hrs on type is nothing. The 737 employment market is saturated by guys with 10 times that experience. You can waste more money towards a SSTR/Line experience but the risks are even greated in the current climate. Be sensible and try get into SEP/MEP work, preferably something that can aid in keeping your IR valid and current until the market moves again.

Called for interview with 3500TT, 3300 on the 737.

I have the impression that so far only B737 guys have been called for interview. What about any B757 drivers??

I applied 11 days ago for the B757 with B752/763ER experience, no news yet...

Has anyone who is non type rated been invited for a interview?

Mister G,

I thought this round of recruitment was for type rated only, or have I completely missed the point?

H

My only reason for asking is that you can apply on-line, even if you are non rated.

Mister G,

I did wonder about that. I assumed it would mean automatic rejection if you weren't type rated.

H

9000hrs TT
5500hrs Jet (2000hrs 733 command)
6000hrs Efis

..............and no response:{

Perhaps but it is a bit odd since you could not apply for anything a month or so ago and now you can regardless of if you are rated or not.

I can understand why people are getting excited, especially those who are out of a job at the moment, whether 19 years old or if you have a lot of 737 hours. Wow - Jet2 are hiring when all other airlines are cutting costs and laying off?! Has anyone stopped to think how/why?

Pilots will only be hired on max 80% pay for 7 months work. Brilliant you think! Well, what are you going to do for the other 5 months of the year to pay the mortgage? This is just another cynical way of reducing Ts&Cs for pilots and I am ashamed to be working for an outfit that is stooping so low. Management are trying to hire new pilots on these contracts instead of paying for fleet transfers and promotions. This is going to cause a lot of tension.

Bring on BALPA and good luck to anyone joining us on these terms because you'll need it:

Lowest Jet salary in the industry PLUS no holiday during the summer, no anual pay rise, no health insurance.

Paperlad??? what are you even doing here man ???
should'nt you be heading east somewhere?:}

Very good Q,

The answer is, me being of a certain age, something to do with family: ageing parents, one child at Uni, one child at Highschool and wifey in a stable job. Why would I leave the UK just to fly, except to promote a divorce or other upset.

PL

I can understand why people are getting excited, especially those who are out of a job at the moment, whether 19 years old or if you have a lot of 737 hours. Wow - Jet2 are hiring when all other airlines are cutting costs and laying off?! Has anyone stopped to think how/why?

Pilots will only be hired on max 80% pay for 7 months work. Brilliant you think! Well, what are you going to do for the other 5 months of the year to pay the mortgage? This is just another cynical way of reducing Ts&Cs for pilots and I am ashamed to be working for an outfit that is stooping so low. Management are trying to hire new pilots on these contracts instead of paying for fleet transfers and promotions. This is going to cause a lot of tension.

Bring on BALPA and good luck to anyone joining us on these terms because you'll need it:

Lowest Jet salary in the industry PLUS no holiday during the summer, no anual pay rise, no health insurance.

:eek: Hhhmmm, maybe I'll stay where I am then....

So for FO £35,700 x 0.8 x 0.6 = £17,136 pA basic?

I thought the latest round of recruitment is for permanent employment, and if opted for part-time employment you take two months unpaid in the winter months?

Im also type rated 1500 TT just under 1300 737 and no response. Competition is very very tough!!

Interesting why the larger experience type guys didn't get a look in! Quite a few FO's from my airline applied due to the threat of redundancy, all of them will be 3500-4000TT with inexcess of 2000 hours on B757/B767 and B737, most of them with both types!

All of them got the same 'Nowt' email!

I applied, havent got a No or Yes..
wthhhhh
:bored:

I too havn't heard.......I applied 10 days ago, is no news good news?

So for FO £35,700 x 0.8 x 0.6 = £17,136 pA basic?

I thought the latest round of recruitment is for permanent employment, and if opted for part-time employment you take two months unpaid in the winter months?

No - Basic = £35,700 x 0.8 (80%) - you'll get paid 80% for 7 months work.

BUT What are you going to do for the 5 months you're not flying? It's a joke and unfortunately it sounds like Jet2 will be swamped with applicants desperate to be working/flying.

Instead of promoting or offering fleet transfers, Jet2 will employ permanent (temporary) pilots who will work from April to end Oct for 80% annual salary. You won't be allowed any holiday during this time and then for Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, March you can sit at home trying not to spend money and annoy your other half.

This is the kind of contract I would expect from Ryanair and if people are happy to accept it then they deserve all they get in the future.

Hi Mr Geezer,
I appplied with 5500 hrs, lots on the 146 and some very recent EFIS with a fine Huy/ABZ operator :hmm: of our mutual acquantance, I can even speak Yorkshire !
I've just got a " Thanks, but no thanks e-mail "
Hope your tour of the colonies is going well :ok:

If you are unemployed earning £64 a week then I would think having a job from next April for 7 months would look pretty good right now. Show some humility. It is not the fault of an individual to be out of work. I am sorry that 'the great unwashed' might infringe on you're precious T&C's :yuk:

Yes, the contract is rubbish, and I am sure those accepting it will move on as soon as they can. Jet2 get cheap summer labour, people get work when there is none out there. Market forces unfortunately.

but everyone with a brain at Jet2 (yes, there are a few) are off soon as.

Which could improve things, unless the same brainy people realise that and stay, so things remain the same.

Makes your head hurt doesn't it?

From where I am sitting I see no rapid improvement in the economy and no sign that the airline industry is turning the corner, what I do see is layoffs both real and proposed and the unedifying spectacle of little rubber people with big chequebooks trying to buy their way into the industry that some of us depend on for a living. Direct your venom where it is deserved, rather than sneering at those who are being forced to choose between a job in the profession that they have followed for years or the dole queue.

The only sustained expansion now is outside of Europe. Not everyone with experience wants to live in a sandpit even if we may have to consider it. The fact that Jet2 are creating some jobs in the UK is very good news for some of us (little rubber people definitely excepted). Please don't criticize from the comfort of a secure employment.

To the wannabees who are going to flame the hell out of me, (not that I care but you deserve an explanation)

When I came into this game, it was with the full knowledge that I was joining the back end of a very long queue of experienced pilots all of whom would be taken on before I or my fellow no accounts were even looked at. I knew that there was a chance that I would never make it and that I would need to be lucky. There was no question of trying to bribe or buy my way into a seat although the signs were starting to appear. I had no expectation of getting directly into the RHS of a jet and apart from those lucky enough to be sponsored by BA, neither did anyone else. I counted myself very fortunate to get a turboprop position and built up from there. Now years down the line I find myself staring into the abyss once again at an age when most are enjoying the rewards of their professions, and along with hundreds of my peers am job hunting once more. I have kids to educate, a mortgage and bills to pay and retirement to consider inside 20 years. I do therefore get very hacked off when 19 year old snot noses come on here whining that jet jobs are not theirs for the taking and thinking that they can buy their way in at the expense of those who cannot pay thousands. Tough luck sonny. You will have known the risks inherent in this game before you ever started and if you didn't, with all the information at your disposal here and elsewhere then you shouldn't be allowed out on your own.

Publicity Stunt???? And if there are jobs- Cheaper Pilots, sort term contracts???

Well said Northern Boy.

Those of us who have learnt our trade (and enjoyed) flying turboprops have surely got the best deal in the long run (albeit muddling through this downturn). I'm in a situation where yes I am flying a jet but I am in the wrong location with a company that could go either way, and yes kids, mortgage the lot.

Jet2 is giving the market a little kick up the arse and I do hope that the trend continue, however small, over the next couple of years.

I look forward to the day when I can have the opportunity of flying for a carrier (Jet2 http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/smile.gif) that is on my doorstep rather than travel to the ends of the country to fly.

But, coming back to NB, I knew what I was getting into when I got into this game so am happy with my lot but it could be better...... I think it always could be better no matter who you're wth.


My2p's worth....

Once again, the glass is well & truly half empty on pprune.

35K salary relates to the CTRS scheme, which wouldn't apply to FOs with hours on type, who would presumably join on circa 41K + duty pay + sector pay.

Do we know for sure if they are enforcing the 80% "option" on all new joiners or is this speculation?

I'm not defending the low pay at Jet2, but lets not give the impression we work for 17K basic!

Well said Northern Boy!

:)

Chaps,

Is there a sim check involved in this round of recruitment? & anyone know if the alledged 7 months work would be as a contractor or jet2 employee (ie P45 reqd by Jet2).

Cheers :ok:

If you are lazy like me then a 80% roster is fantastic. Not having to wait for the bus in 'Fred West' at MAN in the winter sounds like a good deal to me! :}

Thanks northern pie eater. I won't make the effort to fill the online form out then if a Yorkshire lad of your calibre has not been selected! Back to the beach....

M G
 

Probably best you don't apply if you think Manchester is in Yorkshire.
May I suggest taking an atlas to the beach with you! :O

The Yorkshire reference was made in connection to my esteemed former colleague who is from the People's Republic of Yorkshire. As for me, I would never move to the place! :ok:

Just a thought. I may be wrong but I was under the impression that new hires would be offered a permanent contract albeit 80%. So, this salary will be paid in 12 monthly increments except you won't have to turn up for work for 5 of them. IF it's the same deal I was offered you can do what you want with those months, including flying for someone else (with permission ) up to 300hrs. Not a good deal for this winter but things will change, plus the company is definately expanding and it is PM's stated aim that he wants B767's in the future. Not a bad position to be in at present I would have thought, for those joining us soon. I stand to be corrected about the contract terms but anyone joining Jet2 now could have a pleasant surprise carreerwise in the next couple of years. Sorry if that makes the pot half full but thats just me.

For those who have been invited for an interview, when will it be and for which type (B737 or B757)...just wondering since the posts here seem to have died down...

hi folks. I was just wondering if anybody has attended their interview yet ? If you have , would you mind sharing your experience with others ? For example , were there tech questions and if so , on what subjects ? Also , were there many " give me an example when you have . . . " style questions ? Any help would really be appreciated although I understand if you want to keep it to yourself :-) thanks in advance

So is that it now? If you haven't heard by now for an interview can we assume we haven't been selected? :{

Has many people actually received a "thanks but no Thanks" letter/email.

Just wandering

Probably more aircraft coming so at least some chance of more spaces!

Haven't heard anything either way sadly......:{

Had the "thanks but no thanks" email last week!!:(