The new recruits will be mainly FO’s as a lot of internal promotions. Currently Airbus TRI and Apprentice interviews running with some rated, current FO’s. Order of interviews to my knowledge at the moment is DEC Airbus TRI, Rated FO, Apprentice, NTR FO, DEC. Majority FO’s so number of DEC rated and NTR will be small. Total required at moment around 200 but could change. Over 7000 applications.

100 percent. It is pathetic.

That’s an opinion.

Personally I know people who hate BALPA and I know people who love them. I know people who have been helped enormously, and people who have been shafted.

My personal opinion is that unions in general are actually quite toothless, and peoples expectations of them are far in excess of what in reality a union can deliver.

The problem at Jet2 is that there are 2 employee bodies negotiating for the pilot work force. One that the company engages with and one that they don’t. I think when/if the body that the company engages with stops producing results that benefit the pilot workforce BALPA may become more important.

Overall I have been a BALPA member for over 25 years. I have paid an awful lot of money to them. With hindsight I’m not sure I have received value for money.

So is paying for your own uniform, car park pass, sim time, line training, hotac, transport etc..

So is wanting to do 900 hours a year, living out of a suitcase in a different hotel each night, or spending days away from your family whilst shoving a delta pay cut (despite the excellently strong union?!) up your behind all because you want to say you work for a certain airline.

Alternatively the circa 500 hours I do a year for an airline in rude financial health, working 3-4 days a week makes my 8%+ pay rise this year, profit share bonus, share options, 140k/Yr salary and the next 5 weekends off having saved thousands in Balpa fees seem somehow...worth it.

Each to their own though, I don't begrudge you for putting up with any of the above and if being a Ryanair trainer or telling people you're a BA pilot is enough for you to put up with it then good for you. If you're happy then so am I.

I don’t think you’ll find many of us at BA standing up for working at that place these days.

I was a BALPA member at previous outfit. Never again.
When I needed help personally they were pretty useless.
For the amount you pay it’s a joke Union. Outside of aviation I have worked at places with unions and without. I would say at places where unions are strong have been slightly better.

BALPA laughing all the way to the bank from BA membership. If BA had amazing T+Cs similar to say Air France then ok it would be worth every penny. They don’t.

Funny how it’s only Jet2 pilots that feel the need to shout about their T&Cs and tell everyone how great their lives supposedly are. I believe “inferiority complex” is the polite term here.

Not sure what “rude financial health” means either, but Jet2’s latest financial report was pretty dire and they’re certainly the most exposed airline to potential fuel price increases, recession and inflation.

3 or 4 working day week? You must be on the 757.

I don’t know anyone on the 737 who isn’t finding it pretty relentless at the moment! Wasn’t it just posted about Jet2 management refusing to acknowledge the fatigue concerns? Crew I heard on the crew bus the other day sounded pretty wrecked on day 6!

Jet2 is a good outfit no doubt about it and is probably is one of the better gigs for SH in the U.K. right now.

My opinion on BALPA, depends really which airline I suppose. I know some in BA hate them, in the land of orange they have been excellent, especially the past 3yrs they have excelled. I had an issue many years ago and they dealt with it promptly.

That’s exactly how it should be, no pilot should feel inferior in any airline.
But there is one jet2 pilot that acts superior to any other pilot right now….. I expect your complex is a need for self gratification,but whatever helps you get off at night
white spunk remains

Funny how it's only you and a handful of other usual suspects who keep saying that.

I wonder why you don't like to hear that other pilots are perfectly happy?!

I don't think the 757 works that hard.

Sometimes it’s done just to wind you up.

I don't work any weekends (every other Friday off), 152k/Yr. Glad you are happy for me. I am too. More than willing to put up with it.

Thread Creep
 

The title of this thread is “jet2 hold pool.”

if you want you can go and create another thread called “jobs that are better than jet2” elsewhere. 😉

Happy enough to take a 10%+ pay cut. Good for you 👍
Did your union sort that out for you?

No. All my own choosing - I took on less responsibility (more family time) and therefore less money. And yet still- a better roster and a better salary than you.

But who has the biggest todger? 😂😂

🤣🤣 yep you can state that as an absolute fact having seen my roster and income 🙄

It's definitely him. You can see it right on his forehead.

No but I can be fairly sure of it based on your previous post, where you wrote about your salary and how many weekends you have off in a row. I merely responded to it.
What a clown.....

As this thread is supposed to be about Jet2 recruitment let’s be honest, as a J2 captain on the 737 if you work 4 days a week they will invariably be Friday to Monday, although it’s possible to get most weekends off in the winter by creative use of requested days off and breaking your leave up. And if you’re a bog standard line captain after the latest pay rise you’ll earn at best £130k gross and probably a bit less, you’ll need to be a fairly senior trainer to be on £160k…. That’s what it is, if it means you can live in Newcastle or Leeds and have a cheaper house that’s fine, but don’t pretend it’s something it isn’t. I’m happy to earn less than some other companies because I don’t want to do four sector days with 35 minute turn arounds. But if you work less you earn a bit less, that’s how the world usually works.

nope, application hasn't been past 1st stage yet. I think they are inundated with applications. Lucky enough to have a few recommendations so fingers crossed it will move forward.

Exactly.

Anyway you go and enjoy your job and let us be happy in ours.

Yes. Here is EXACTLY what you wrote.

Income isn't the same as salary.

How's my roster looking?

Wow definitely had the popcorn out reading this.

I will throw some more wood on the fire.

Have you added in teas/coffees full uniform costs etc etc.

I got a mate at BA 787 12 years in as FO and pre COVID most of his trips were Mon-Fri. Occasional weekend and is on around £130k.
EK FOs on £10k a month if you take the housing allowance as standard. That’s around £200k salary in UK.

Honestly you guys there’s not much in it. Both your salaries are pretty good.
Everyone’s circumstances are different. What’s horrible for one might be luxury to others.

Let’s get back to Jet2 now.

Was going to say your friend was telling you serious porky pies to get anywhere near that after 13 years if he’s on 34PP scale, but then remembered .. the old 24 pay point scale :{.

pp12 FO and earning £130k Must be doing a fair bit of overtime.

No he told me his take home most months is £6k. He might be on 24 scale actually I haven’t asked. This was pre covid around 2018.

I believe him when I have seen my best mates pay slips. His first year at BA 777 he didn’t earn less that £4500 every month with 2 months over £6k due to overtime. Made redundant unfortunately.

You have the next 5 weekends off which would imply that you don't have the sixth. I'll be thinking of you when I'm watching Football Focus.

Well that might be what you infer but certainly not what I imply. Besides weekends are overrated, busy and generally full of people so in fact I'd prefer to not have weekends off.

Have a gander at your crystal ball and check my roster inbetween weekends will you?

And perhaps being a football fan might go some way to explaining your lack of comprehension.

Please guys! back on topic!!

​​​​​​Well ....we got there in the end. Perhaps weekends are only overrated for people that don't have much of a social life and maybe thats why you "prefer" to not have them off . I can assure you I don't lack any comprehension, I just responded to what you wrote. I also comprehended your brainless generalisation about football fans which sums up your idiotic rationale. It was also brainless for you to INFER that I'm a Football fan. I just enjoy watching a variety of sports with my kids, and Football happens to be one of them. Are you able to comprehend that? or is all getting a bit too much for you Chesty?

Anyway Jet2 : I know between 60-80 guys and girls there ranging from Captains, FOs DBPMs, BPMs, LTCs and TRIs ranging from mainly ex RYR and some BABY, Norwegian and Flydubai. The reactions are always mixed. Some being happy to be at the regional base of their choosing to others incessantly complaining about the brutal rosters in the summer and others in close proximity to LBA, endlessly being put in the sim as bodies. A lot also complain that the 3 RDOs are simply not enough to maintain an acceptable home and social life.
The majority of those 60-80 people I have trained from Cadet to Command/Training Captains and Jet2 are damn lucky to have them on their books. It's not for me due to the fact that they could never offer me the Renumeration/Work life balance and job security that I currently enjoy, but thats not to say it isn't for everyone. I hope people find that a balanced observation including Mr/Mrs bang His/Her Chesty the resident Jet 2 Ape.

Much better than your original "100% it's pathetic" post.

Well done.

I’ve never heard a bunch of people so insecure. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

I have a week off every month and only work 12 days and have zero issues getting the days off I want. I wouldn’t trade that to work for anyone else.

Stop comparing dick sizes!

Lazydogg If you look through Chesty Morgan's 1000+ posts you'll see a trend - all responsible facts and info. Not always pro Jet 2 just giving readers facts so they could make educated decisions. Your coming across as a bit of a wayne kerr.

To summarise, scheduled airlines give you a better roster and consequently you suffer micro management as the screws are turned in the name of efficiency. Charter airline management tend to be a little more understanding and respect one's efforts more as they pore over the fatigue reports.

Jet2 seem to be doing a good job.

takes a Wayne Kerr to call a wayne Kerr.!
Funny how a little twig calls a tre.
prize wayne Kerr.

quick question. Where do you get your weed.
At what point in your summaries do charter and schedule flying…..respect one’s efforts as they pore over fatigue reports.!
If you feel knackered now Adays. You call, file, and ask for down time.
One’s efforts to continue on regards are ohhhhh so held in such high esteem. What what.
on time performance. Do it. All in the best possible taste!

That’s a load of baloney.

It depends on the airline. I was talking with a RYR Fo few days ago and he said he got given 2 weeks off (not taken out of his leave allowance) because he had called fatigued and rolling roster was showing close to 900 hrs.
My previous scheduled outfit when I was in a similar situation they just said have an extra 2 days off.
From my experience charters are worse and if you don’t like it move on!!! “We can find someone else.”
I have worked at random roster and now fixed days off and for me fixed days off is much better. Having seen J2 rosters they look savage through summer, and to me a bit boring, ALC 5-7 days in a row. Ok J2 get more time off in winter, for me I would rather work through winter. It’s cold and nothing to do except sit at home waiting maybe to get called. Boring.

Some people will love that.
Each to there own.