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BoeingLudo737 18th Feb 2020 16:52


Originally Posted by booze (Post 10690096)
Yes. Apparently they want to charge candidates for the assessment in the future. I guess that step has to be in place before the "bring-your-own-lube" assessments are about the start.

Really? Who told you that?

sonicbum 19th Feb 2020 09:09

Must be a real treat to work for those guys.

BoeingLudo737 19th Feb 2020 15:34

Well you work for a bankrupt company that drains taxpayer's money so I suppose you really shouldn't have anything to say

Maxymus3 19th Feb 2020 18:33


Originally Posted by safelife (Post 10687206)
Checked that one for you and got the info that interpersonal has put all recruitment for Condor on hold, except those already invited.
Reason given is they won't be recruiting for them in the future, as LOT is going to do that from Warszaw.

talked to interpersonal today. They are actively recruiting for condor again since this week. It WAS on hold because of the struggle condor's been in. So if you're fluent in German and hold a a320 tr, go ahead!

zerograv 19th Feb 2020 19:21


Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737 (Post 10691385)
Well you work for a bankrupt company that drains taxpayer's money so I suppose you really shouldn't have anything to say

I'm under the impression that BrianAir likes to demand subsidies from local, or regional, governments in order to fly to, or setup camp (base), at some destinations.

My (certainly wrong) impression goes as far as that Brian, under the excuse that they will be greatly improving the local economy by flying there, or being present there, will demand all sorts of tax rebates, and subsidies, in order to accept being present locally.

Again, it most be my wrongly impression, that they will only be at some locations if they able to get some sort of unfair advantage in order to undermine local competition.

Naturally any subsidies or tax rebates will have to be done under some sort of "creative" accounting, so as to avoid what happened in France in the past, in which a regional airport as asked by the court to demand a refund of the subsidies that they had provided to BrianAir.

Therefore, which is the company that milks more the system ? BrianAir or sonicbum's company (whoever that happens to be) ?


bulldog89 20th Feb 2020 03:14

I really don't want to defend BoeingLudo, but this time he's right.

There's a big difference between the two companies: Ryanair receives money thanks to commercial deals and it's highly profitable. Alitalia receives taxpayers money (300/400 millions € every 3 months) and loses tons of euros.

Even considering only the pure numbers AZ "milks" a lot more of FR.

dirk85 20th Feb 2020 07:43

Consider the taxes and social contributions they have been avoiding to pay for years, and the number will still be far, but closer than you think

Mike_Harrison 2nd Mar 2020 22:28

Full_blast

These values can't be gross.
Impossible.

I have seen the Laudamotion pdf and the numbers aren't the same, I'm sorry.

Daddy Fantastic 3rd Mar 2020 08:00

Sadly they are correct, I have seen the CBA...

Full_blast 3rd Mar 2020 13:19

Mike_Harrison

I won’t answer with words because I don’t want to be rude. Therefore enjoy the attachments.



https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....81d3c5a56c.png
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bc2f4417f3.png

BoeingLudo737 3rd Mar 2020 14:46

Full_blast

That's a really old PDF

austrian71 3rd Mar 2020 14:59

How "cheap" you have to be to accept these terms & conditions - think about it !

FlightDetent 3rd Mar 2020 19:00

Out of curiosity, how much did your first flying job pay at year 2? The document above adds up to 4800 EUR/m gross with 35 days of annual leave.

sonicbum 3rd Mar 2020 21:33

Does the TRI allowance mean You get 200 quids gross extra (120 net or so?) per day flying 4 sectors with a 200 hours cadet ?
Hilarious.

micky771 3rd Mar 2020 21:36

crj_z2

In this contract there aren’t perdiem?

Full_blast 4th Mar 2020 05:13


Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737 (Post 10701627)
That's a really old PDF

1- September 2019. So no, it’s not really old;
2- It seems you have more updated terms and conditions so please share them with us instead of keeping them for yourself;
3- There is no benefit in reading your words if you can’t support them with evidence.



Originally Posted by sonicbum (Post 10701930)
Does the TRI allowance mean You get 200 quids gross extra (120 net or so?) per day flying 4 sectors with a 200 hours cadet ?
Hilarious.

Nope. You get 200€ gross per instruction day given in the sim.
In Ryanair for flying 4 sectors with a 200h cadet there is a monthly LTC allowance which is around 1000€ gross/month. I have no knowledge of the monthly allowance for a line training captain in Laudamotion, but considering that everything in Laudamotion is worse than Ryanair, I think we can all make our conclusions :yuk:

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bairni 21st Mar 2020 13:13

what is the situation outside Austria after the grounding of Lauda?

in Austria Lauda has applied for "corona short-time work" but the union is blocking the application at the moment. (according a letter signed by all Lauda Pilots addressed to Austrian Politicians)

gearlever 21st Mar 2020 13:40

NO.
The letter is neither signed (anonymous) nor by "all Lauda Pilots"... It may be fake as well.

Anonymous letter


Alpine Flyer 21st Mar 2020 14:57

Probably written by management.....

Austrian government short-time-work subsidies require union and works council approval and Laudamotion insists (and is trying to prove in court) that their works council was elected contrary to statutory provisions and is therefore a legal non-entity. Having asked employees to elect several separate works councils (which is certainly illegal) doesn't help either.

Laudamotion management (a.k.a. MOL's puppets) would just need to acknowledge that their lawsuit against the works council is baseless, retract it and start talking to them to get an agreement.

PilotLZ 27th Jun 2020 09:38

Can anyone shed some light on what's going on with the Vienna base now? Looks like it will continue to exist, providing wet lease capacity to Ryanair. Will that reverse the previously announced job losses at least to some extent?

Full_blast 27th Jun 2020 15:39

https://stories.eurocockpit.be/when-...ion/index.html

PilotLZ 27th Jun 2020 16:06

Does that mean no job losses so far?

flyfan 28th Jun 2020 07:20

There will be some, especially ground staff working at Vienna HQ but als crew who didn't sign the new contract, which is even worse than what they had before.

dirk85 28th Jun 2020 10:05

It was already one of the worst contracts in Europe, was there really any need to make it any worse?
There is no end to corporate greed

skyboy83 18th Jan 2021 08:54

Anyone get called for an assessment last week? I am looking forward to see the new covid terms and conditions in this company.

dirk85 18th Jan 2021 12:43

They were the worst in the industry before, imagine now

Jurow 21st Jun 2023 09:34

Hi everyone, looking for some bits of info concerning the t&cs for f/o position.
- What's the current hiring trend?
- Any chance to be based in Vienna?
Thanks!

FlightDetent 21st Jun 2023 13:50

Sign up for the RYR Linked-In and get the Pilot Recruitment webinars directly.

The last one was awkward, which was unusual because the gentleman from Dublin (Collin?) does a stellar job on those normally.


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