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Newcomer2 14th Sep 2019 20:26

Are you implying that the bonuses are tax free in Austria?
Anyway, 5200 is still a shame for a 320 captain

Edit: according to my calculator 7051 gross gives 4075 net

bairni 14th Sep 2019 20:37

these bonuses have a reduced taxation and less social security as per law.
4075€ net is correct when you do not take care of the 360€ tax bonus because of working on weekends/holidays and under risky conditions.

74world 14th Sep 2019 22:23

Lauda
 
holy SH!T !!!!! And they are getting applicants ????

booze 15th Sep 2019 01:26

That is WZZ SFO salary :D oh, and you can be based in VIE, too.

El Capitano 15th Sep 2019 20:07

Don,t accept this ****ty conditions. The ones already flying there organize a massive strike, the ones who would like to join, stop applying. There are far more better options!

E.C.

behindyou 17th Sep 2019 12:07

I can only confirm what has already been posted: STAY FAR AWAY from this company.

pilot hans 18th Sep 2019 13:05

they cancelled a lot of courses for cadets a while ago for RYR, those people were put in a holding pool, pretty sure they gonna force those to go there... then telling the public they have lots of people applying... says it all I guess, no???

Banana Joe 18th Sep 2019 18:12

This is exactly what is happening. Some Ryanair cadets have been sent to Laudamotion. Also captains.

IFLYyouBREATH 18th Sep 2019 19:24

I match all their requirements and lovely received a PFO.

_AIRMAN_ 18th Sep 2019 21:48

Me too. I guess they are saving spots for fired repositioned RYR pilots ��

Dan Winterland 19th Sep 2019 04:14

The threat of a strike action can be just as damaging as an actual strike. BA have been blindsided by this move. It can, and I'm sure will be used again. Clever move.

BoeingLudo737 19th Sep 2019 07:37


Originally Posted by Banana Joe (Post 10573079)
This is exactly what is happening. Some Ryanair cadets have been sent to Laudamotion. Also captains.

You should be banned for all the c... you write in here.


Sky17_ 19th Sep 2019 16:55

New base
 
Hi guys, someone know which base will they open in the future? Seems that a 5th one will be announced soon..

matt283 20th Sep 2019 01:42


Originally Posted by Sky17_ (Post 10573794)
Hi guys, someone know which base will they open in the future? Seems that a 5th one will be announced soon..

One of the recently announced to be “closed” ryr bases...

dirk85 20th Sep 2019 10:16

Dedicated to BoeingLudo737, who will without a doubt explain us this is not true, and that we should all be banned for defaming Ryanair.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....64f81a851d.jpg

sonicbum 20th Sep 2019 16:21

I truly hope BoeingLudo737 is a troll, otherwise he is in for a good wake up call sooner or later.

CaptainProp 20th Sep 2019 16:32

No need to accept these low T&Cs. easyJet are recruiting FOs for Porto and Palma. Porto T&Cs better now and I believe max FO pay is now €80k+ / year.

CP

Sky17_ 20th Sep 2019 16:36

Now seems that type bond in lauda is 15k€ iso 36k€. The pay is like easyjet Porto and the type self sponsored (around 24k€).

CaptainProp 20th Sep 2019 17:44


Originally Posted by Sky17_ (Post 10574627)
Now seems that type bond in lauda is 15k€ iso 36k€. The pay is like easyjet Porto and the type self sponsored (around 24k€).

If you read info above from other posters pay is nowhere near easyJet’s pay, not even in Porto where pay is lower than France, Italy, Germany etc.

CP

elporco 4th Oct 2019 10:39

Greetings folks. Could you confirm that there is indeed a training bond for type rated DECs? Thanks.

bairni 4th Oct 2019 11:14

the whole works council of Laudamotion has stepped back today as it was the most unfruitful social partnership in Austrian aviation history.

one member of the works council was fired in the same turn by the company.

https://www.austrianaviation.net/det...acjueDru5_hKAQ
(pls use transaltor for english version)

FlightDetent 4th Oct 2019 20:44


Originally Posted by Thepirate (Post 10586724)
tier 2 Ryanair

This.

Local RYR base is getting closed and crew offered a transfer to Polish Ryanair - the flights and capacity to continue undisrupted. The actual arrangement is so poorly done (offered to sign a new contract until a deadline while the said contract does not physically exist) it made the headlines in the regional press.

When I read here that Laudamotion had an actual proper labour agreement (link provided recently) it was a funny feeling. That spot did not match the animal but now we know. :mad:

Pilotenguy 5th Oct 2019 09:32

I don't understand why management thinks that they can keep salaries secret.
It's going to backfire if all Lauda and Buzz request same pay as Ryanair DAC.
What will they do? Open a 6th airline and threatening people out again?
​​​​

Full_blast 5th Oct 2019 12:45


Originally Posted by Pilotenguy (Post 10587065)
I don't understand why management thinks that they can keep salaries secret.
It's going to backfire if all Lauda and Buzz request same pay as Ryanair DAC.
What will they do? Open a 6th airline and threatening people out again?
​​​​

These salaries are based on 850h/year that at present you won’t fly.

https://ibb.co/5RYYpk9
https://ibb.co/X5q73rY

Apologies for using an image hosting website but I couldn’t upload them using the forum.
Feel free to spread the pictures and/or attach them properly. People need to know.

Pilotenguy 5th Oct 2019 14:24


Originally Posted by Full_blast (Post 10587162)
These salaries are based on 850h/year that at present you won’t fly.


Apologies for using an image hosting website but I couldn’t upload them using the forum.
Feel free to spread the pictures and/or attach them properly. People need to know.

Wait.. Correct if I'm wrong.
Someone at those Ryanair threatened bases will take at least a €20k paycut (maybe more) and move to a country with higher tax rate, work more days, less flying hours and at least 3yrs? Ridiculous

Oscar748 6th Oct 2019 11:11

Type Rating
 
Hey guys,
Anyone staring their Type rating the 18th of November ?
Cheers,

Oscar748

bereyb 6th Oct 2019 15:39


Originally Posted by Oscar748 (Post 10587842)
Hey guys,
Anyone staring their Type rating the 18th of November ?
Cheers,

Oscar748

I have a TR starting date at 2nd December 2019. I have sent you private message as well.

bairni 9th Oct 2019 17:46

Next hot News from Vienna:

Laudamotion has stopped hiring on Laudamotion Contracts and will now exclusively offer temporary contracts through an agency.

The company will also not recognize the newly elected workers council.

https://www.austrianaviation.net/det...flugbegleiter/
(Sorry German again)

EAM 9th Oct 2019 20:11

back to the roots.

Eskere777 10th Oct 2019 10:00

What can we do guys... that's the general situation, better times will come

733driver 10th Oct 2019 13:42

Bloody disgrace
 
Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised but I'm shocked nonetheless. A leopard really doesn't change its spots. I hate Ryanair and everything they stand for. I can only advise everyone to stay away from that lot.

crj_z2 10th Oct 2019 17:43

It seems, RYR will use their current setup to bring as many flight crews as they can onto bogus self-employment contracts at one of the new AOCs. With the 737max delivery delays, the way they have to keep their market share, is to grow the A320 fleet - many new hires and upgrades are therefor about to come onto these new contracts at LDM. Once a critical mass is reached, the "old" directly employed people will be allowed to either volunteer for the self-employed contract or leave. If too many dare to be non-compliant, they will just see another AOC of the group take over routes at their base on a wet lease basis with the respective alternate aircraft type, until they are more motivated. A shame, that this is even legal!

Rafdr2 16th Oct 2019 11:00


Originally Posted by Oscar748 (Post 10587842)
Hey guys,
Anyone staring their Type rating the 18th of November ?
Cheers,

Oscar748

Hi Oscar, I am supposed to start my Type Rating on the 18th of November as well.....do you have any news ?

BoeingLudo737 16th Oct 2019 15:58


Originally Posted by 733driver (Post 10591150)
Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised but I'm shocked nonetheless. A leopard really doesn't change its spots. I hate Ryanair and everything they stand for. I can only advise everyone to stay away from that lot.

I love all the conspiracy theories on this forum

box 16th Oct 2019 19:11


Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737 (Post 10595830)
I love all the conspiracy theories on this forum

What is so conspiracy about this???

dirk85 16th Oct 2019 22:30


Originally Posted by box (Post 10596002)


What is so conspiracy about this???

Don’t feed the troll, read the post history of BoeingLudo and you will realize there is no point to discuss with him/her.

Eskere777 17th Oct 2019 19:44

I'm starting the type 4/11. Still no specific information, no idea about what's going on

BoeingLudo737 18th Oct 2019 07:05


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 10596170)


Don’t feed the troll, read the post history of BoeingLudo and you will realize there is no point to discuss with him/her.

you are so wise

Eskere777 23rd Oct 2019 09:50

For who's starting on 4/11, send a private so we can arrange an accommodation!

flyingmed 23rd Oct 2019 10:16

Hopefully it doesn't rain too hard or the 'Buzz' & 'Laudamotion' might slip off! FR seem to have completely out maneuvered and stayed so far ahead of any unions on this it is crazy. Back to the old days of contractors everywhere working via agencies.

I don't like what FR + others have done but I have to acknowledge how they seem to have run laps around the unions and labor laws. Shameful show by the EU unions! Maybe if they head hunted a few of the strategy staff in FR they might actually get somewhere :mad:


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