Vokess55, no I joined last year for the base opportunity and cause I prefer to work 180 days/year. I'm not telling anybody that it is the company we have been dreaming for, but that if you are able to find your dimension inside it and not get stressed and swithing off your phone when you are off,it's ok.
About the base it's a gambling sometimes, they usually provide the one you're askin' for DEFO and DEC, especially, to make you join. I'm not one of those signing a training bond for upgrade with the base in blank, I'm not willing to move for 1'000 more euros a month...! |
In one base I happen to know for a fact that most upgrades got to stay.
I flew with all of them at one point , so this is fact , not fiction. If you want upgrade and want to stay in base, tell them so. Simple . |
180 days a year? I work about 65-70 days a year, get paid a lot more and, unbelievably, get given enough bottled water to do the job without dehydrating.
But it's ok, because MaverickPrime "knows a guy" so it must be just more 'emotionally loaded drivel'. |
Originally Posted by Vokes55
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An FO with over 3000 hours joining Ryanair? You must've been desperate.
Expect the minimum amount of sectors to get you onto the line, followed by 100 hours every 28 days for the rest of your career. You'll get four days off per week, but make sure you have a second phone, otherwise you'll be woken up at 5am every day by them begging for you to work your day off (for no extra money). Oh, and if you don't answer your phone, you'll be taken off the roster and face disciplinary action. Good luck! ;) are you dutch? |
How is life in FRA base ? Average income CPT ?
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Would also be interested to hear about FRA. I'm due to start there in Sept.
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Originally Posted by MaverickPrime
(Post 9852979)
I know a guy who joined as a cadet - SFI - Captain - TRE and has never been based outside of the UK since he started with Ryanair. It's not the worst company out there.
But, it's more funny to read all the jaded, negative, emotionally loaded drivel on pprune than have a balanced discussion. A very misleading post. If it is true then that guy is incredibly lucky and VERY much in the minority. Be very wary with regards to basing. |
Yes, very much in the minority
People did get to stay in their base or the country where they were based, but in many cases they were in regions that were considered as 'unpopular choices' with the rank and file. Great if that where you live, but not always a guarantee. There's always going to be a case of 'I know someone who knows someone' who has stayed in his UK base since day dot in somewhere as big as FR. I was there for quite some time and in my experience it was very rare. Most people did get back to where they needed to be eventually. In some cases it takes years. Lots of people just leave because of the uncertainty and tension it creates. |
It does seem an odd way to treat a 'valued asset'; to promote them into a position that is critical to the well being of the company, both as ambassador & safety, then deliberately test their stamina by disrupting their family life. True, it might be necessary due to no local vacancies, but to do it because 'that is the way it is', and even in another country that will reduce your rest time due to committing seems to send the wrong message about the company's opinion of your worth.
All that stuff we get pumped into us every 6 months about team work and creating a positive atmosphere does not seem relevant on the ground when 'mission control' is pulling the strings. Sad. |
And why is so hard to assign bases by seniority?
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Not many DEC would join if they would end up in the bottom of the seniority list. Base of choice, good roster and reasonable income is what attracts people to join, isn't it.
On the other hand, less likely people would leave if they knew what to expect. |
I detest these kinds of self-satisfied boasts:-
180 days a year? I work about 65-70 days a year, get paid a lot more |
I realise commuting to bases is a big issue with regards to the 5/4 roster and how it isn't as great as it seems for certain people.
If I'm based in, lets say Milan. If I live in Dublin and a flight to Milan with RYR gets me in in perfect time for my shift, do crewing ever let me work that flight over so that the commute is actually a flight over to my base that i'm working? Or would that be too nice? |
Valued Asset....in Ryanair ....you guys crack me up :}
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Originally Posted by SliabhLuachra
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I realise commuting to bases is a big issue with regards to the 5/4 roster and how it isn't as great as it seems for certain people.
If I'm based in, lets say Milan. If I live in Dublin and a flight to Milan with RYR gets me in in perfect time for my shift, do crewing ever let me work that flight over so that the commute is actually a flight over to my base that i'm working? Or would that be too nice? They will send you out of base but only to do pairs of flights. The issue with doing the DUB-BGY flight to work is someone has to do the outbound (if its from BGY) to get the aircraft to DUB or the return to DUB if its a Dublin based aircraft. Having people do single sectors would be a rostering nightmare. The only way that would ever happen is by doing a swap with an Italian F/O from Milan based in Dublin and you would both need a perfect matching roster and one of you be doing the DUB-BGY or BGY-DUB flight to make it happen. Chances are about zero. |
My Type was in 2007 and everyone I know from that course still has left. Seems like its pretty natural for everyone to move on and I recon Ryanair expect and plan for that. Maybe even encourage it.
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How far can one live away from their base with Ryanair? Is it based on miles/km or time to get to airport?
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Time. Need to be 1 hour from the 'reporting station'. I'm 50 miles away from my base.
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Shared roster
Anyone know if theyre still offering a shared roster ? IE 5 on 13 off ?
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Yes but not at initial recruitment stage. It can be only applied for from within.
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