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Hawker400 29th May 2019 17:30


Originally Posted by MaverickPrime (Post 10481976)
Would it be safe to say that a STN FO, once 500hrs+ and upgraded from the cadet contract, would get £4000 net per month?

Quick tax calculator for JFO is around 3500£. Plenty of experienced TR friends average 3700-4000€ with Portuguese/German contracts.

MaverickPrime 30th May 2019 09:18


Originally Posted by Hawker400 (Post 10482107)
Quick tax calculator for JFO is around 3500£. Plenty of experienced TR friends average 3700-4000€ with Portuguese/German contracts.

Fair enough, I thought it was £75k/year gross. That comes out of the tax calculator at £4000/month net. So just wanted to confirm that?

Hawker400 30th May 2019 09:48


Originally Posted by MaverickPrime (Post 10482568)


Fair enough, I thought it was £75k/year gross. That comes out of the tax calculator at £4000/month net. So just wanted to confirm that?

I don't have the original document for some reason but it was found here in the forum. I just have the snap saved and numbers were confirmed from a few colleagues. Curious about SFO if anyone has any data.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....08d2cbcbe6.jpg

BoeingLudo737 30th May 2019 11:05

Not sure those salaries are still current as the pay structure has definitely changed after the union deals

Hawker400 30th May 2019 11:40


Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737 (Post 10482636)
Not sure those salaries are still current as the pay structure has definitely changed after the union deals

Yes I don't doubt there might have been changes but I'm sure it's not significant as 11k£ increase to get 4000£ net as previous OP assumed. I got these figures sometime last year.

Hawker400 30th May 2019 16:06


Originally Posted by Ryanairrecruitment (Post 10482830)
here you go new salaries FO rates for UK new joiners
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e270b4b96b.jpg

Good to see from the source. Thanks

MaverickPrime 30th May 2019 16:51


Originally Posted by Ryanairrecruitment (Post 10482830)
here you go new salaries FO rates for UK new joiners
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e270b4b96b.jpg

Thanks ryanairrecruitment. Does a cadet move on to this salary once they pass 500 hours at Ryanair?

Full_blast 31st May 2019 04:55


Originally Posted by Hawker400 (Post 10482589)
I don't have the original document for some reason but it was found here in the forum. I just have the snap saved and numbers were confirmed from a few colleagues. Curious about SFO if anyone has any data.

The SFO figures don't change that much, maybe 2k to 4k per year depending on country and base.

Only captains hit the 850/900h mark. FOs VERY rarely manage to fly that amount of hours per year. At present in fact FOs are flying much less as the company hired a huge amount of cadets. If you join as a cadet/DEFO expect to enjoy several -unpaid- 12h standbys per block.
If you get to choose, Ryanair direct contract is a no brainer as it literally saves the income during winter.

Thepirate 31st May 2019 12:54

Hey ryanairrecruitment,

Has lauda motion any plans to open more bases?

whens it expected ryanair will open recruitment for DEC again and is this dependent on 737 max deliveries?

excellent idea communicating on this website thank you, one thing that can’t be said about ryanair is they pretend to be something they are not. Just keep the camel out of it ;)

MaverickPrime 31st May 2019 16:11

Those are pretty decent figures to be honest, especially for people new to the industry.

Also, if FOs VERY rarely manage to fly 850h/yr; they obviously can't complain about fatigue, especially on a fixed pattern roster with no nightshift.

dirk85 31st May 2019 16:15

If you think that a roster with 750/800 hours, with often 4 sectors days and 5 early reports in a row cannot be fatiguing, Sir, you are perfect Ryanair material, or have never been in the industry before.

samca 31st May 2019 18:30


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 10483609)
If you think that a roster with 750/800 hours, with often 4 sectors day and 5 early reports in a row cannot be fatiguing, Sir, you are perfect Ryanair material, or have never been in the industry before.

+1000000000000
they just need a few years to discover it

RavenOne 31st May 2019 20:24


Originally Posted by MaverickPrime (Post 10483604)
Those are pretty decent figures to be honest, especially for people new to the industry.

Also, if FOs VERY rarely manage to fly 850h/yr; they obviously can't complain about fatigue, especially on a fixed pattern roster with no nightshift.

I honestly laughed a bit. Troll from Swords or simply plain stupid. Hilarious.

USA1pilot 1st Jun 2019 12:51


Originally Posted by Full_blast (Post 10483152)


The SFO figures don't change that much, maybe 2k to 4k per year depending on country and base.

Only captains hit the 850/900h mark. FOs VERY rarely manage to fly that amount of hours per year. At present in fact FOs are flying much less as the company hired a huge amount of cadets. If you join as a cadet/DEFO expect to enjoy several -unpaid- 12h standbys per block.
If you get to choose, Ryanair direct contract is a no brainer as it literally saves the income during winter.

I dont now but last year I did more than 800 and year before close to 800 actual as well. And this year flying a lot as well.

Full_blast 1st Jun 2019 13:13


Originally Posted by MaverickPrime (Post 10483604)
Those are pretty decent figures to be honest, especially for people new to the industry.

Also, if FOs VERY rarely manage to fly 850h/yr; they obviously can't complain about fatigue, especially on a fixed pattern roster with no nightshift.

I am not commenting about the roster as others gave you fair answers, but the Ryanair FO salary on a direct contract is definitely not bad, in my opinion. Germany (and maybe Portugal) are probably the only two countries where you have to pay a lot of taxes so it's not really worth it. In Italy for instance if you fly 65 hours I guess you're not far from the 4000/4200 euros net mark. Yes, easyJet in Italy is way better and so is their CLA. If you have a Brookfield/Storm contract then you're screwed.

USA1pilot is an exception then, I have feedbacks from several people across the whole network and the FOs are complaining about the little amount of hours they are being scheduled. Especially those that refused the Ryanair direct contract because in their opinion they could earn more money than a captain. Then the market changed and all they're left with are 60h/month summer rosters after a winter spent flying 30h/month.

Pumal1w 2nd Jun 2019 06:41


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 10483609)
If you think that a roster with 750/800 hours, with often 4 sectors days and 5 early reports in a row cannot be fatiguing, Sir, you are perfect Ryanair material, or have never been in the industry before.

After many years of perusing this forum, I feel obliged to actually register and reply to this comment.
I have spent around 25 years flying for two UK airlines, both sadly went bust.
I now find myself at RYR, and I can assure you that the fixed 5/4 roster pattern is excellent for managing fatigue, unlike the variable rosters I had at my previous employers.
There is minimal roster disruption too (again, unlike my previous airlines).

Just wanted to add this to add a bit of perspective to comments I have read.



samca 2nd Jun 2019 22:44


Originally Posted by Pumal1w (Post 10484571)


After many years of perusing this forum, I feel obliged to actually register and reply to this comment.
I have spent around 25 years flying for two UK airlines, both sadly went bust.
I now find myself at RYR, and I can assure you that the fixed 5/4 roster pattern is excellent for managing fatigue, unlike the variable rosters I had at my previous employers.
There is minimal roster disruption too (again, unlike my previous airlines).

Just wanted to add this to add a bit of perspective to comments I have read.



my God... it is better do not ask about your previous roster then.
If you live in Malaga or a 2 sectors base is not bad but if you work in a base like Madrid for example is big disgrace. 4 sectors 25 min turnaround and loooong taxi plus slots...
simple, it is a completely different work.

clvf88 3rd Jun 2019 11:36

I find some of the comments on here highly suspect.

I'd imagine it goes without saying, but if you're thinking of joining, I'd suggest you speak to someone who actually works there, not trusting the words upon an annonymous internet forum.

spottyemm 3rd Jun 2019 13:58

Samba I’m going to guess that you have never worked for a Uk based charter airline? Random roster all summer with very few weekend days off, night flights, short notice roster changes etc etc.This is commonplace in the UK.

My experience exactly mirrors that of Pumal1w. I guess my username reveals my former employer but I know that other UK charter operators have similar rostering issues.

There are are many things to moan about in RYR but in my experience the fixed roster is definitely not one of them.

Obviously the charter airline summer carnage is mainly a Northern European phenomenon and it may well be that our colleagues in Southern Europe have superior rostering practices. I should also point out that I have been extremely fortunate not to have to commute which obviously results on a more pleasant work/life balance.

tomuchwork 3rd Jun 2019 23:35


Originally Posted by clvf88 (Post 10485452)
I find some of the comments on here highly suspect.

I'd imagine it goes without saying, but if you're thinking of joining, I'd suggest you speak to someone who actually works there, not trusting the words upon an annonymous internet forum.

Glad to help if someone wants to know details. But I will NOT reply to "new" members.


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