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swingstate 23rd Apr 2016 14:29


Originally Posted by A1A (Post 9351410)
@italian stallion
Thank you for information (Stansted). Actually, would be kind and tell me did you have technical question exam (ATPL) and HR exercise ?
I guess that sim-ride was assessed at B737 sim. Please tell me (I have not got experience- NTR), what kind of skill for NTR pilots they are looking ? (advice please)
I'm interested for eastern Europe bases, for example Romenia, Bulgaria, Croatia etc.

You are pretty much guaranteed to get your choice of base if you want to go to Eastern Europe. There are bases opening in Romania which they will welcome you with open arms for. Only exception is Budapest. There's probably 50 ex-malev's waiting for that one so forget about it.

A1A 25th Apr 2016 20:34

@swingstate
Thank you for information ;) Best regards.

skyloone 28th Apr 2016 11:47


Originally Posted by squawkident. (Post 9339318)
Hi Guys,

I'm interested in applying as a non rated DEC. Could anyone pls give me a rough estimate of a LTN/STN salary, gross and net?

Thanks all

SIdent.

There is no salary unless you're on a Ryanair contract. You'd more likely to be offered a contract via a Ltd company in Ireland. You get a roster, not a salary. There is much detail if you search any forums. Not likely to be offered a UK base at the moment. That said one could be offered a UK base to get you in the door but if a contractor you could be floated around the network. Not great, unless that's you thing. The famed 5/4 roster rapidly becomes a 7/2.

Luibar 29th Jun 2016 22:31

Hi,

I appreciate your inputs as I’m trying to get this information as much accurate as possible.

As far as I understand, on a full Ryanair contract, you get an Irish contract regardless of which European base you get with tax deducted at source for the basic pay. Is that correct? What is the gross basic salary for Captains on European bases? Is there any annual increment on salary?

As for the sector pay, my understanding is that you are paid a certain amount per block hour on which you must pay taxes on your home base country if the flying is on domestic sectors, otherwise you will be taxed in Ireland, right?

Regarding the pension, is it a matched pension contribution where Ryanair will pay €500 monthly provided you make the same contribution from your monthly pay before tax?

You get one full month off with full basic salary and you get paid for 18 holiday days on that month. What is the rate for each holiday day?

The annual allowance for miscellaneous expenses (medicals, uniform, etc) is it a one sum pay or is it a monthly value added to your salary?

Thanks. :ok:

speed_alive_rotate 30th Jun 2016 10:06

Are the choice of bases starting to improve , would you be most likely to get one of your 3 as a new cadet? Judging by what Ryanair have said regarding Brexit it would obviously be mad to put a UK base down I am assuming?
What are Irish bases like Dublin-full to capacity?
Would be great to hear some information from those on the inside.

Kind Regards,
SAR

speed_alive_rotate 10th Jul 2016 08:53

Morning gents ,
Would anyone be able to steer me in the right direction as to how many aircraft are based at each base location. Is the below link the most accurate for Ryanair??
Appreciate any help at all ,
Many Thanks ,
SAR
Current, future and former Ryanair bases

NEDude 10th Jul 2016 09:06

Does anyone know how they are handling the flights in and out of CPH now that the base closed? They have some very early flights so they must either be on layovers of have crews doing TDY without it being an official base. Any idea if they might try re-opening CPH?

jeehaa 10th Jul 2016 10:32

KUN-CPH-LTN-CPH-KUN
No layovers and definately no reopening op CPH base

LLuCCiFeR 11th Jul 2016 15:09

Ryanair Details please
 
Maybe the Germans might have some "details" for you? http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...d-germany.html ;)

p.s. don't come complaining in 3-5 years!

FlyHigher 18th Jul 2016 18:52

LISBON BASE
 
Anyone with the terms on offer at Lisbon for Captains?
Thanks.

Happy landings to all.

Clandestino 23rd Jul 2016 11:17

Any truth in rumour about 11-7 patterns being offered?

jeehaa 23rd Jul 2016 11:43

Nope, not even a runour. Just no

FlyHigher 23rd Jul 2016 11:53

Waiting for an assessment date as DEC non rated.
What can be expected regarding technical questions and simulator assessment profile?
Thanks.

Happy landings to all :ok:

flyac 8th Aug 2016 17:29

SBH pay as a Cpt.
 
Hey folks,
I am very curious about the flight pay per hour as a Captain with RYR.
Ppjn says 50€ per hour but is this still accurate?
Futhermore, i would be very keen to know if there is a 'Pay Scale' for SBH?
Is it the same with all bases or is it dependent on a specific Base (eg. SXF)?
Many questions i know but it would be very important for me to make a decision regarding RYR.
Thanks in advance.

Depone 10th Aug 2016 08:44

flyac,

Italy:

€27 per scheduled block hour net of tax but all countries/bases have their own rates.

Basic pay €66k plus €5k allowance and 8% pension in that same base.

About €10k gross, €6k net pcm in that Italian base.

D.

flyac 10th Aug 2016 11:37

Thank you Depone, already helps a lot to get an intuition for the numbers.
However, do you know whats the ~net pay at Berlin-Schönefeld or other bases in Germany?
Is it one of the better paid countries/bases?
Thanks again.

5 RINGS 11th Aug 2016 22:20

Hello there,

Could anyone shed some light on DEC contrats please (ryanair contract not contractors)?

What's the current basic?
Monthly sector pay to be expected?
Still Irish contract or local contract with local NI & pension?
Company pension scheme?
Any performance bonus/shares?
Staff travel (ID90, ZED...)?

Thanks a lot

MaverickPrime 12th Aug 2016 18:10

Hi, doing a bit of premature career planning.....
Could someone let me know, PM me if you don't want to post here, what pay to expect in ALC/AGP/BCN as a FO and Cpt?
Is there permanent contracts offered in Spain at FR?
Do they base LTC/TRI/TRE in any of the above bases?

Many thanks!

MP

Lokki 12th Aug 2016 21:44

I'm curious, is there anyone who within the last few months has been offered a UK base as a cadet?

mponse 12th Aug 2016 23:15


I'm curious, is there anyone who within the last few months has been offered a UK base as a cadet?
@Lokki, the only two RYR cadets I know got their bases in the UK.

samca 13th Aug 2016 06:23

Ryanair contract FO salary in Spain. Flying 65 hours around 3400 euros nets. Flying 90 hours 4300 Euros nets. That including allowance. So every 6 months you Pay your hotel and food in the sim plus AirPort parking, uniform, medical...
Tickets, White tickets 50% discount Ryanair flights for your parents, whife/husband and childrens + 6 Blue tickets per year that only Pay tax and you can give anyone.
Pension. No, but If you decide to put money in a pensión plan they match the quantity.
Licence Insurance no.
Tickets ID90 no
ZED no
Bonus no
Also there is an extrapayment of almost 10 Euros Gross per black hour for FOs that comply with the company requirements for the command upgrade BUT even If you comply with the requirements doesn't mean that you gonna recieve this money, some bases is a decition strictly of your Base Captain.
Hope this helps you to have a general picture.

Rgds

5 RINGS 13th Aug 2016 08:07

Thank you some much Samca.

Any idea of Capt figures?

As for pension, when you say ryanair matches your contributions to a plan, is there any cap apllicable, or do they match whatever sum you decide to put in?

Can you confirm Irish contract as opposed to local i.e Spanish?

Thanks for your feedback.

Vokes55 13th Aug 2016 09:25

With 1100 pilots leaving Ryanair in the last 12 months (including over 300 captains), why are people still considering this as a positive career move?

zerotohero 13th Aug 2016 10:19

I belive for Captains its a maximum of £5000 match. You can elect to pay more but thats the most they will do. F/O's are likely lower.

Euro land not sure as thats UK contract.

samca 13th Aug 2016 11:17

I think they match until 3000 Euros for FOs. I'm not completely sure. For captains they match 6000 euros

zerotohero 13th Aug 2016 11:38

Thats nearly half what another UK operator gives you.

Ryanair is still a pretty poor package but the 5/4 is handy for all the guys who have no chance to ever live where they want to. Free jumpseating is the sweetener.

I think I might have been happier as a Manager of my local McDonalds but its a bit late in the day now.

ROKVIATOR 13th Aug 2016 12:24

Zerotohero, That kind of affirmation makes me puke, I'd love being in your situation flying in a "good" cia.

MaverickPrime 13th Aug 2016 12:26


Originally Posted by zerotohero (Post 9472505)
Thats nearly half what another UK operator gives you.

Ryanair is still a pretty poor package but the 5/4 is handy for all the guys who have no chance to ever live where they want to. Free jumpseating is the sweetener.

I think I might have been happier as a Manager of my local McDonalds but its a bit late in the day now.

Saying that it seems to have got better. Five years ago I heard it was £81k/yr gross for a UK Cpt. Although now it seems to be more like £100k/yr+ gross in the UK. Saying that, I'm an outsider looking in so feel free to correct me!

RE Spanish contracts. Are Ryanair contractors in Spain entitled to use Spanish social security? I.e. Can you use the local doctor, are you paying towards Spanish state pension? (it's pretty generous compared to UK). Sorry for all the specific questions. Just trying to build up a picture!

samca 13th Aug 2016 20:04

The answer to If you can use doctor' from social Security in Spain is yes even If you are working with contractors, it doesn't matter becouse for "Hacienda" If you live more than 6 months Per Year in Spain you MUST do the "Declaración de la Renta" so you are paying spanish taxes every year and can use spanish social services.
Rgds

Global_Global 13th Aug 2016 20:11


Are Ryanair contractors in Spain entitled to use Spanish social security?
YOU are entitled to anything that YOU sign up for and YOU pay for. Since all the down sides are to YOU and all the benefits to your contracted party called RYR.... :(

In short YOU will be screwed at some point if YOU get a situation when YOU cannot work when YOU are sick or disabled or if YOU have not paid enough into your pension... As soon as that happens the contracting party RYR has no obligation to YOU...

So as long as YOU intend not to get sick or disabled it is fine....

mponse 13th Aug 2016 21:53


The answer to If you can use doctor' from social Security in Spain is yes even If you are working with contractors, it doesn't matter becouse for "Hacienda" If you live more than 6 months Per Year in Spain you MUST do the "Declaración de la Renta" so you are paying spanish taxes every year and can use spanish social services.
Rgds
Samca, I think you're mixing "Hacienda" (Spanish Tax Office) with "Seguridad Social" (Spanish Social Security Office). They are two very different things. As you said, if you live more than 6 months in Spain you become automatically a tax resident, than means you have to pay taxes in Spain (to "Hacienda").

You will also have to pay Social Security and that is what gives you the Spanish social security benefits. In the case of a contractor ("autónomo"), those benefits are restricted because you can choose how much you want to pay (kind of). So unemployment benefits, sick leave, pension, etc. will depend on how much you pay every month to the "Seguridad Social".

MaverickPrime 13th Aug 2016 22:19


Originally Posted by mponse (Post 9472954)
Samca, I think you're mixing "Hacienda" (Spanish Tax Office) with "Seguridad Social" (Spanish Social Security Office). They are two very different things. As you said, if you live more than 6 months in Spain you become automatically a tax resident, than means you have to pay taxes in Spain (to "Hacienda").

You will also have to pay Social Security and that is what gives you the Spanish social security benefits. In the case of a contractor ("autónomo"), those benefits are restricted because you can choose how much you want to pay (kind of). So unemployment benefits, sick leave, pension, etc. will depend on how much you pay every month to the "Seguridad Social".

Bit messy this Ryanair business!

Surely then, if your Spanish based, you pay your taxes and social security solely in Spain not Ireland? Would there not be some bi/multilateral EU tax agreement :confused:

I've seen first hand that the full social security contribution in Spain is high if you are self-employed!

Suppose a better question to ask would be - would a FO earn on average €3700net in Spain if they were fully paying all taxes and social security?

I suppose an even better question to ask - will they not just offer you a permanent contract....

172_driver 14th Aug 2016 07:06


Surely then, if your Spanish based, you pay your taxes and social security solely in Spain not Ireland? Would there not be some bi/multilateral EU tax agreement
Don't be so sure, it seems Ireland is getting most of the dough anyway. Those pesky Irish accountants tax it at source before they pay it out to you. Then it's up to you to declare that in whatever country you're tax resident. Based on the bi-lateral tax agreement you may come out paying no more taxes. Still, the money went to the limericks and not to your kid's school education.

Note that I have no first hand experience with Spain, but this is how it works for many Brookfield/Storm contractors in other European countries. Probably same for Ryanair employees as those are Irish contracts too. I think only Italy has a variation to that where Italian tax is deducted for domestic flights. This was a few years ago and might have changed.

ExDubai 14th Aug 2016 08:15


Originally Posted by 172_driver (Post 9473147)

Note that I have no first hand experience with Spain, but this is how it works for many Brookfield/Storm contractors in other European countries. Possibly Ryanair employees to.

Yepp, and that's the reason why certain german based pilots had some visitors in the early morning. Remember the last police raid? Isn't that long ago.....


http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...d-germany.html

samca 14th Aug 2016 21:03

I think that for the time being the Captains only can work with Mcginley and there will not be the option of Brookfield anymore. Probably any captain can confirm this fact.

MaverickPrime 17th Aug 2016 16:26

There was a comment on this thread a few days ago stating the precise figures before and after tax for a UK based Captain on permanent contract. Its been deleted now, anyhow thanks for the info!!

Folks, thanks for the info on Spanish Social security etc, I think we have made the issue as clear as possible on a public forum.

I'd personally much rather work on a permanent employee contract. However, if you are making the choice to settle in a country for the longterm its good to know that your stamp is fully paid up for the future!

tony the jesus 29th Sep 2016 11:33

Ryanair pension plan
 
I have a personal pension plan in my home country. Is it possible to use this pension plan to get the contribution from Ryanair or do you need to setup a new pension plan in Ireland in order to get the contribution from Ryanair?

Thanks.

tony

FlyHigher 22nd Oct 2016 15:41

I have been offered a position as DEC on a Portuguese base.
Anyone can share the average take home for a Captain based in Portugal on a Ryanair contract?
I was told that domestic sectors are taxed in Portugal and international ones in Ireland. So it can be a bit confusing.

Happy landings to all :ok:

zerotohero 22nd Oct 2016 15:53

Surely your contract will state how you are taxed and where.

O wait it's a mystery until your pay check arrives. Then you sit and wait for the tax investigation a few years later.

It's good there.

RAT 5 22nd Oct 2016 16:59

If you are an employee would the onus of the tax situation fall squarely on the employer. You are a PAYE employee. Surely if you are based in Portugal you would be subject to Portuguese charges & laws. Did not ez have this problem some years ago with Dortmund/Berlin & Paris. Did they not have local based crews on UK contracts, salaried in UK and taxed in UK? Did the Germans & French not disagree and the local judges ruled that locally based crews had to be salaried & taxed locally?
If that is the case then other employers can't keep trying to fudge it in another manner. The precedent is set.


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