Hi everyone!
I have sent my email application to AL today, and there was no automatic email response with a confirmation of receipt - does anyone know if this is "normal", or did other people receive a (automated) reply?
Thanks and cheers!

Hey guys,

are there any news/updates regarding the assessment. Or is it still the Hoehnerbach with the 737 classic the next day?

This is the one you need https://hesseschrader-shop.de/Hesse/...-9783849030452

I guess you have few days left, give it a try, better than nothing.

Is there any improvements on their Ts&Cs?
Still max 4 days off in a row?
75% contract same amount of work as full contract?
Are they commuter-friendly?

You fly cargo at night, to crap holes, get a **** salary and they assess your " etiquette " ? . That's funny.

what is this dinner about?

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My understanding is that many of the pilots commute to Leipzig for this job.

With 15 days off per month and most of the working ones overseas:
What is the tax situation?
Do you have to pay taxes in Germany (I assume company would withhold taxes before paying you) or you can chose to remain resident in Czech Rep. or Poland and pay own taxes?

I assume that salary figures posted on Pilotjobsnetwork.com are "take home" amounts, after (DE) tax (?)

Some more details on part time options would also be very helpful.

Usually figures are given gross. Tax can vary for each one a lot. So that makes no sense to give the net figures.

Tax can indeed vary according to additional income in the household.

But if these are "take home" figures for German residents, they should be after tax-social security-state pension deduction.

No, these figures are always gross.

commuting
 

Hi all,

Could you, as a commuter, give me some roster examples? Days off, kind of rotations before, is it possible to do 2 rotations and get a longer block off after etc etc?
Thanks in advance and greets

I think it's more about getting to know the applicants in a less "assessment"-like setting to see whether you'll fit in and get a good look at your personality.
You could say it's a role-play/personality test and they serve food on the side I guess. :}

Still as others have said - the pay is below par. Shiny big jet syndrome alert.

to see if you have a Monacle and can click your heels correctly.
Having seen a video of one of their crews on YT, I’m surprised they bother because the captain , who I think was management , seemed like a nightmare .

Any improvements in the TC? I saw on PPJN that pilots are leaving because of low salary?
How well can you commute with Aerologic, I understand you have 15 days off per month, which sounds nice, even better than CLX, but all depends on how the schedule you I guess :D

I think that you would struggle to find any cargo pilots "leaving because of low salary" right now. You don't leave the most secure sector of the industry just because you are quibbling over a few cents/pennies!

Aerologic is the only cargo Airline in Europe hiring pilots right now.

If you happen to be 747 or 777 rated and at a loose end. And it's a temporary contract.

But you need to speak German.

I want to apply but an Aerologic pilot heard, that a big number of Austrian Airlines pilots will bypass the screening and start to work there soon. Does anybody know if that is true or only a rumor, otherwise an application makes no real sense.

Austrian is facing layoffs.
as Austrian is owned by Lufthansa, and Hansa also (partly) owns Aerologic, it does makes sense. However, I can’t confirm

Did a search, but could not find anything. Can anyone tell me what the pay (and other benefits) are for a 777 typerated DEC?
All info on PPJN has indeed been deleted.

Martin675

It wouldn't be the first Austrian invasion of Aerologic

76-er

Such things are immaterial now sorry. The onoy benefit is you have a job and you get paid. Where have you been for the last few months??

GKOC41

No need for this, I ain’t stupid. I know pay at Aerologic is bad, just wondering HOW bad.

Martin675

well there have been rumors about pilots from Austrian joining Aerologic for a limited period of time. AFAIK there are sufficient applications from pilots with a current B777 or B787 rating, so Aerologic at the moment seems to have waived the idea of temporarily hiring Austrian pilots....but you never know how fast this could change and management neither denies nor confirms those rumors.

76-er

CPT salary depends on your previous experience. Starting salary on the left seat is approximately 115K/year before tax and after every 12 months of employment this increases by approx. 2,5K annually to a maximum of 175K. Previous experience as CPT as accredited so for every (i think it was) 700hrs on the left seat they will give you 2,5K on top.

Hi Gents,

a quick question, have seen the TC's floating around for 2018, anyone care to share the new one, current roster situation, amount of flying being done on a monthly basis? Are they all red-eyed flights? Is there a swapping system in place or flight bidding? Just looking for some options, able to commute back to Amsterdam? Anyone clarify the tax percentage over the salary. Tia M1

Hi,

i have a question regarding the salaryscheme in AL. Is this paid upon experience or is it payed per year in the company?

Mark, you can commute using DHL. However that is not as ideal as the flights are in the evening/night only. DHL/EAT would be easier to commute as the times fit better.

baseline: salary is crap. Rosters are nice. At least this was when I went for an interview many years ago. I know the salaries have not improved in the mean time. Don’t know about the rosters.

Yes.

When you apply you can indicate your level of German (A2 to Native) and they'll assess your German in a phone call interview.

What made you think it wasn't a hard requirement?

Discrimination probably

And what do you think f.e. Air France does? It's pretty common in fact...

My point was more to do with the amount of out of work pilots right now. There must be hundreds of out of work German speaking pilots. Why on earth would a company publish a requirement that was optional right now?

Banana Joe

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