Hi all!

Anyone got a sim date for december?

Regards.

Yes.
Will be there on Tuesday

Are you guys rated or part of the non rated long haul campaign? Asking just to see my chances later in 2017.

I am A320 rated and applied for the SH.
Just received the mail, that I am in the DEP Hold Pool.

Are there any recent experiences how long it can take for rated Pilots SH to get an offer?

off topic question
Anyone knows if BA is providing its pilots with a flight case.

No they don't.........I have a vague recollection that they used to provide one as a present upon the successful completion of your command upgrade but those days have long gone. Before anyone asks there's no company provided free crew suitcase either...

E170- congrats to you & welcome to the pool. I'd say being type rated you'll jump above the majority of us for a SH position in mid 2017, while us non type rated already swimming for a LH/SH position wait until 2018 if we're lucky. Feel free to PM me if/when you get called.

Many congrats again.

Nor do BA provide a free pair of Raybans. (which they did when I joined!)

You even have to buy your own Torch for walk arounds at night. Get one that takes AA batteries

Does anyone know what aircraft ba are expecting in 2018?

So glad BA are recruiting.

If they take type rated / experienced pilots from other airlines, this is sure to drive up T&C's at the 'feeder' airlines - unless they are happy to lose lots of highly trained professional guys and girls.

Expect good pay deals this year everyone.

Horray!!

John

Why would an employer want people to leave, when they have to train more replacements??

What is the logic behind T&C's not improving when you are struggling to retain pilots?

Surely the 'grass can REALLY be that much greener at BA' ....... can it??

Fire and Brimstone are you joking with your posts?

Think maybe you need to do some research. I'm a Capt with RYR waiting in BA's hold pool for a two stripe FO position. That should tell you all you need to know. Perhaps you aren't aware that RYR makes PROFIT using it's training department doing initial cadet type ratings etc.

I think F and B a quick check on any one of hundreds of Norwegian/RYR/EJ/WOW/Wizz threads on here over the last few years will tell you why sadly JS is right. Welcome back JS - good to know you are still keeping tabs on us.

F&B

If you read recent posts again you'll see it looks like 2015 and 16 were the peak of current recruitment into BA.....recruitment is down in 17.

If the "feeders" were going to use pay to combat the loss of trained personnel the pay rises would have already happened.

I'd be really realistic about your expectations on what you expect by joining BA if that's indeed your plan or anyone else reading this, there are many good things about BA for sure but the holy grail it is not! BA is a lifestyle more than any other airline I've worked for and not always in a good way especially with family and the disruption being away can cause. It offers Security for sure..... probably one of the best in the UK but we are definitely preparing for one of aviation's cyclical downturns. You can see the plans are changing all the time internally around recruitment for 2017 and bids on SH Commands which have not materialised even for quite senior guys n girls! Opec cutting oil output to drive up the cost of fuel.....

Add in a new CEO from a low cost background obsessed with Easy & especially Norwegian and whose quoted internally that staff costs need to be adjusted to "Market rate" at some point during his tenure you can expect more change at BA over the next few years as the race to the bottom continues in this industry, BA have further to fall than most so have your eyes wide open that you wont be immune to all of this at BA! Sad but true..... I joined from a well known bucket and spade carrier that hit hard times and was very grateful to join BA don't get me wrong, that said i'd go back in a heartbeat if i could for the better home lifestyle it offered my personal circumstances and believe some have done just that very recently!

Pork chop express - I couldn't agree more with you. As a joiner in 2016 coming from a Loco background I second your views entirely. BA is a great place to come to if you're in your 20s with no family commitments but for those of more advanced years think twice. The lifestyle on offer in terms of time off at home probably isn't as good as many other places. Sad but true.

@VJW: thank you.
okay, so there are more non-rated pilots in the pool than rated?
for how long are you waiting?
what informations did you get regarding the time to wait?

I would agree with the above. I understand that BA's seniority system means that things will only get better, but as someone who joined past mid 20's with family, I have found out that BA 'ain't all that'.

My rosters are less fatiguing than the job I left in the sandpit, and afford me more time off. However perpetual blind lines are worse than the bidding system I left, meaning most weekends at work.

This along with a near 50% pay cut, 20 years to the left hand seat of a wide body (for lifestyle and large pay difference when compared to SH) and constant talk of doom, gloom and cost cutting means that I wouldn't make the same decision again if I had the chance. I'm finding myself looking at flight job pages and careers websites already, when this used to be the proverbial job for life.