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Originally Posted by Pickled
(Post 10489827)
Rex, why do you think there are a large number of retirements due in 2020/21?
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OK thanks. I have seen 2 different spreadsheets based on retirement at age 65, with no allowance for pilots retiring earlier, going part time, sickness etc, i.e. the worst case scenario. The average number of pilot retirements shown is around 100 per year until 2029 when it starts to increase to around 200 for a few years and then drops to about 130, around 80% of those numbers are P1. Those spreadsheets were produced about 6 years ago.
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Originally Posted by Pickled
(Post 10489900)
I have seen 2 different spreadsheets based on retirement at age 65, with no allowance for pilots retiring earlier, going part time, sickness etc.
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I’ve been in the pool about the same time now. I heard from a source that they have stopped SH training for Aug & Sep as they can’t afford to release the trainers off the line over the busy summer schedule. Not sure how true it is but hopefully courses will start again in the Autumn. |
I am one who is not staying until I am 65 and I know dozens with similar intent. Time to go 4 years early and not drag it out to the end. its all about money for some people and the fear of being a nobody when you leave. Time to give the youngsters a go and not bed block the system |
Originally Posted by king surf
(Post 10491277)
and the fear of being a nobody when you leave. |
You only have to look at the number of private plated cars, (and I am not talking about cc) to see that they do care what people think about them. its all about status with some of them. But hey it's a free country and they are free to spend their cash as they please. |
A320 CAP is registered to a Blue Talbot clearly status and pay is not all it’s made out to be. |
To be fair, how many of these cringeworthy personalised plates were gifts from well meaning family that the person doesn't have the heart to discard? I know if my family got me JNRTRSH or similar I'd have to pretend to like it 😂
sorry for the thread creep! |
Oh this is good.....
I have personalised regs on my truck (off an old Range Rover I bought at auction) and car (off an old airline Vauxhall). When at work I also consider myself a somebody who's responsible for the crew, pax, airframe and the rest. Should be a good conversation in the cruise. :) |
Originally Posted by RexBanner
(Post 10489763)
Alright then Right Engine. You give me the number of how many unfrozen pilots that have actually been denied moves to Long Haul from Short Haul as a result of Long Haul DEP. The number is miniscule in the greater scheme of things. More or less everybody in recent years has been getting their move after 5 years, if not a little bit less than that, one Airbus pilot I know moved in the final year of her freeze to the 777 after only 3 and a bit years due to joining in December of the first training year. I’m only trying to point this out because some people are posting some very overly negative and misleading stuff about joining on the airbus and the risks associated with that. I’ve crunched the numbers and right now everything is pointing to me being on a Long Haul course in early 2021 having joined early 2016 (and possibly next year if enough people above me decide to stay as senior P2 on the Airbus due JSS). That’s exactly as advertised when I joined the company. (And MikeAlpha320 I take your point about courses not necessarily being available but, even with a slowdown that’s unlikely right now due to the large retirement numbers due in 2020/21). |
I joined just before you wonderbus, early 2015 and am unfrozen next year, like you I am weighing up the pros and cons of a fleet move - I’m just inside the top 25% shorthaul and the rosters I am getting are more than satisfactory, in fact they are pretty much what I want. have a look on IBId and change your fleet, it will show you where you would be seniority wise if you change fleets, I would be at 66% on the 747, 72% on the 777, 74% on the 787 and 85% on the 380, this should prevent us getting the very poor rosters the very junior joes get (although the numbers don’t look great on the 380 let’s face it there are no bad trips on that fleet). It’s the huge advantage of doing shorthaul first, we jump all the junior guys when we change fleets, I do feel sorry for those joining the longhaul fleets now as a DEP as they will be at the bottom for years and years as all those shorthaul guys slot in above them as they move fleets. Big decisions for us senior shorthaul guys though, good luck making it . |
Always fancied 645 NCP myself as a private plate. Probably pick it up for a song too. ;) |
Originally Posted by Biggles88
(Post 10491192)
I’ve been in the pool about the same time now. I heard from a source that they have stopped SH training for Aug & Sep as they can’t afford to release the trainers off the line over the busy summer schedule. Not sure how true it is but hopefully courses will start again in the Autumn. |
Pension
Is it possible to transfer the BA pension into a SIPP or are you locked into their scheme?
Thanks in advance! |
Originally Posted by aceman18
(Post 10494494)
Is it possible to transfer the BA pension into a SIPP or are you locked into their scheme?
Thanks in advance! |
You can also transfer money out of BAPP and into your own SIPP any time you like. |
Thanks guys.
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How long are people waiting in the hold pool for SH recently? I note a post from May from someone saying they’d been waiting two months. |
Originally Posted by Gingerbread Man
(Post 10497451)
How long are people waiting in the hold pool for SH recently? I note a post from May from someone saying they’d been waiting two months. |
Just as bit of news for potential new joiners today, a Chief Pilot video has been delivered to our inboxes (mostly about ongoing industrial negotiations) in which he says he wants to share with us some exciting ideas for flight ops to benefit both us and the company. The cynic in me is guessing he’s referring to Klaus’ 24 hour Long Haul slips downroute :yuk: |
Originally Posted by RexBanner
(Post 10497763)
Just as bit of news for potential new joiners today, a Chief Pilot video has been delivered to our inboxes (mostly about ongoing industrial negotiations) in which he says he wants to share with us some exciting ideas for flight ops to benefit both us and the company. The cynic in me is guessing he’s referring to Klaus’ 24 hour Long Haul slips downroute :yuk: Are 24 layovers really on the cards? Would any destination be safe or is that network wide? Because I can’t help but feel if that’s the case there’s surely no point in being long haul? By the time you’ve had a sleep and something to eat, you’ve run out of time to go and do anything other than sit by the pool for a few hours. If the airport hotel even has a pool. |
Heisenb3rg I’m guessing it’s got to be the destinations where there are regular and daily flights, Heathrow stuff like Nashville, Durban, Charleston and Gatwick trips like Mauritius and the Maldives etc would stay safe because the schedule simply wouldn’t allow it. For destinations like Los Angeles and San Fran though it’s an utter game changer and I agree with you, there’s literally no point in doing long haul if all you’re doing is slipping 24 hours an an airport hotel downroute. The sickening thing though is they’re (read Klaus is) trying to sell it like it’s in our interests because we’d have more “time at home”. It’s in reality their wet dream to reduce costs even further at the expense of flight safety. This is why we cannot back down now in these industrial negotiations because once BA/IAG management see weakness they’ll be like a cat with its prey, being cruel and vindictive until the life force of the workforce has disappeared. |
How do you know if you’re in the short haul hold pool or not? Are you informed once you’re successful in the sim? |
Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg
(Post 10497766)
Are 24 layovers really on the cards? Would any destination be safe or is that network wide? Because I can’t help but feel if that’s the case there’s surely no point in being long haul? By the time you’ve had a sleep and something to eat, you’ve run out of time to go and do anything other than sit by the pool for a few hours. If the airport hotel even has a pool. |
Not sure of the actual hour requirement Percula however as a junior pilot you’ll be nowhere near the seniority required for the fleet, especially now it’s down to one aircraft. To the best of my recollection it’s actually more senior than the 787 and the rest of the long haul fleets so the required Airbus hours would be a given by the time you achieved that level of seniority. (Unless you joined in Gatwick on the Max :} but that’s another story!) |
Most junior LCY captain 1026 Most junior LCY co-pilot 3327 Most junior 777 captain 1244 Most junior 777 co-pilot 4555 Most junior 787 captain 1608 Most junior 787 co-pilot 4553 Most junior 747 captain 1643 Most junior 747 co-pilot 4531 Most junior A380 captain 1653 Most junior A380 co-pilot 4557 Most junior A350 captain 1803 Most junior A350 co-pilot 3194 So, as Rex says, the LCY Airbus is more senior than other fleets for captains, although the A350 just beats it into second place for co-pilots. It’s certainly more senior than the 787. |
Originally Posted by eckhard
(Post 10497979)
Most junior LCY captain 1026 Most junior LCY co-pilot 3327 Most junior 777 captain 1244 Most junior 777 co-pilot 4555 Most junior 787 captain 1608 Most junior 787 co-pilot 4553 Most junior 747 captain 1643 Most junior 747 co-pilot 4531 Most junior A380 captain 1653 Most junior A380 co-pilot 4557 Most junior A350 captain 1803 Most junior A350 co-pilot 3194 So, as Rex says, the LCY Airbus is more senior than other fleets for captains, although the A350 just beats it into second place for co-pilots. It’s certainly more senior than the 787. |
Are the new joiners on the 380 only Airbus rated?
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Assessment tips
Hi all,
Does anyone have any advice for the stage 1 computer assessment and verbal reasoning? Any tips would be much appreciated. |
Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg
(Post 10497766)
Are 24 layovers really on the cards? Would any destination be safe or is that network wide? Because I can’t help but feel if that’s the case there’s surely no point in being long haul? By the time you’ve had a sleep and something to eat, you’ve run out of time to go and do anything other than sit by the pool for a few hours. If the airport hotel even has a pool. |
Nearly all EK layovers are 24 hours. Makes it really hard when you have to try and sleep twice in 24 hours. |
Norfolkungood yes but it’s slightly different in Cathay as you’re flying with 4 crew, most BA flights are 3 crew. |
Just to avoid misunderstanding and perhaps raised expectations amongst potential joiners I take it by that you mean most of our "long range" ops is 3 pilot. Obviously (?) there's also a heck of a lot of two pilot work around at BA, even on the Long Haul Fleets.
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Thanks for clarifying that Wiggy
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:ok:
Hope that didn't come over as "picky"...I know what you were getting at but would just hate to see you being quoted verbatim by a new joiner to Long Haul who has had sight of his/her first JSS train wreck, with " but you said...:bored:". ATB. |
Who is the Sky God occupying #1 on the seniority list?
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Somebody just like you. |
Originally Posted by Officer Kite
(Post 10498462)
Who is the Sky God occupying #1 on the seniority list?
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Are the new joiners on the 380 only Airbus rated? |
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