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EdnaClouds 27th May 2013 18:30

nrn - don't worry too much at the moment, I've had an application in for a few months and I know of others who have one in longer than me.

The focus at the moment is for DEC with experienced FO's picking up towards the end of the summer.

Best of luck!

LNIDA 28th May 2013 05:31

Kirk
 
Skymateo question was about social tax's levied in ADDITION to income tax. Of course its not a tax free job.............

McBruce 2nd Jun 2013 16:49

What's the estimated take home for NAS on a given month?

Kirks gusset 3rd Jun 2013 10:08

LNIDA,

I think Skymateo has got the wording mixed up then, Income tax on Salary may be 40% at some place but "social taxes" will be around 15% max anywhere, if they were 40% that would mean loosing 90% of your salary in UK for example.

A and C 4th Jun 2013 16:19

Confused......so am I !
 
The taxation system across the EU is confused with the term Social tax being the most variable. In the UK social tax is called National Insurance and is generally to provide old age pension, unemployment protection Etc.

Income tax goes to the govenment for most of the other stuff.

The total of both of these is likely to be IRO 40% for your average pilot.

There is also a local property tax that the local authorities use to pay for local services, these you pay out of taxed income and depend on the size of your house.

I hope this helps give a general picture of the UK tax system but please if you work out of the UK get professional advice !!!!

chrian_dk 6th Jun 2013 10:45

so after this thread has been rendered useless as well, what about rumours about new bases. what's the word, AND WHEN...:sad::sad::sad:

captplaystation 6th Jun 2013 10:53

BCN was a big rumour for this autumn, however so far announced plans seem to centre around new routes from Germany to Spain, with no mention of anything involving BCN.

My bet (and hope ) is that it will happen in Spring 2014.

There are rumours involving PMI/ FCO/ SXF / MAN but they haven't (so far ) progressed beyond rumours. Enough new aircraft to come that they will all undoubtedly become reality at some time.

captplaystation 6th Jun 2013 13:29

Last Winters LPA crew were given (more or less) their preferences for Spring & are now variously based in AGP/ALC/HEL (really ! ) /LGW/ Core positions with/without leave of absence as Contractors. A few chose to remain in LPA where there are a few crew still based. I would guess TFS base will be the same scenario as there will be very little production from there after Spring .

LNIDA 8th Jun 2013 07:05

FasterS
 
For Summer 2013 there is one based unit in LPA but this increases to 6 or 7 for W13/14 plus an additional 2 units in TFS, so 8 or 9 units in LPA/TFS in total with based crews.In addition many flights to the above start from the Nordic countries using local crews. W13/14 see's a significant jump in rotations compared with last year on peak days there will over 35 aircraft arrivals, this taken from the Norwegian.no website, but this does not show the whole picture for winter yet and there are charter flights on top of that which will add at least 5 movements a week.

So yes some crews will be based moved to the Canary Isles to over winter, most likely from AGP/ALC/LGW when the summer Med stuff winds down, there are less aircraft deliveries planned in 2014 (8 B738 I think) so only around 3 or 4 courses starting August/September with more in Jan/Feb and the A320Neo's start to arrive in 2015/16 followed by the 73MAX in 2017

Norwegian have a new larger check in area in J block at LGW and Are Lingus have taken the old Norwegian check in desks between the twin walkways

Iver 11th Jun 2013 16:43

Want to understand why Norwegian does things its way, then watch this Youtube video (English subtitles provided):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i5eWtViYSY

trancada 11th Jun 2013 19:41

Very interesting and inspirable !

767200ER 12th Jun 2013 21:00

So much easier to watch than o'leary harping his usual :mad:

nrn 20th Jun 2013 12:35

any updates regarding the selection over there?

Nobody is answering e-mails...

LNIDA 20th Jun 2013 17:04

Someone said that there had been interview and sim assessments for Captains two weeks ago for August & September start dates, with a F/o course penciled in for January 14, but nothing like the 200 last Autumn

nitefiter 25th Jun 2013 11:57

There was definitely a Captain assessment in early June,I was on it. The course dates were for August and September. I was told that interviews for FO,s were in September for October and January course start dates.
Linda thanks for your earlier information. Definitely a better deal than Jet2 by light years.

McNulty 26th Jun 2013 14:38

Norwegian capt interview
 
Hi there, I'm a captain with a certain lo co which flys the same type as norwegian. Seriously thinking about applying for norwegian soon, any chance you could tell me about the interview process especially the sim?

Thanks!

Pin Head 26th Jun 2013 16:26

Any good links for the matrigma tests?

Firestorm 27th Jun 2013 16:14

Pinhead, they aren't difficult as such, just do them. I don't think there is much preparation that you can do for them, unless you have the answers. A google search should bring up any practice pages that might be out there.

Pin Head 27th Jun 2013 20:37

Thanks. So what type of tests then? Verbal, mathematic?

chrian_dk 3rd Jul 2013 09:25

i keep hearing pmi, mad, bcn and rome either end of the year or next year, what are the rumours from inside the company, and is anything about to be confirmed...

LNIDA 3rd Jul 2013 10:12

June traffic figure are out tomorrow and 2nd quarter update on the 11th so maybe something after then?

Nothing firm on the base front in the way that LGW was last Autumn, but yes all of the above have been mentioned, there does appear to be a subtle shift away from musical bases every 6 months at least in respect of flight deck with ALC & AGP set to remain same sized over winter and LPA/TFS rumoured smaller number of based units than first planned despite a much larger flying program than last winter.

Dream liner starts flying European routes tomorrow, that will be a pleasant surprise for some who thought they were going on a 738, don't know if the 787 is fitted with WiFi out of the box? It's normally fitted post delivery on the 738's

Boeing Europe 5th Jul 2013 01:18

I have called and e-mailed and applied online but nothing with dy never a reply , can anyone advise me on what i should do and what's the best approach I know someone in the company

michalis1 14th Jul 2013 14:45

norwegian captain recruitment
 
guys anybody knows about norwegian recruitment? i applied 3 weeks ago and they didnt reply yes or no yet. does it take so long or they dont just reply if they are not interested?

GA_flps1 14th Jul 2013 16:01

Their database is rather large now with rated 737-people wanting to join nas and they are pretty picky.

737 Jockey 15th Jul 2013 09:52

Call or email Mr Bjorn Hansen. He is a great guy and will give you a clearer picture of who they need and when. I can only suggest that you make yourself available at short notice. If you put down on your application that you need to give your current employer 3 months notice, don't expect an invitation to interview anytime soon. That's just how it is, they need CPT and FO yesterday!

It really is a great place to work, so don't give up too quickly.

Good luck :ok:

michalis1 15th Jul 2013 11:41

Thanks man, i really want to work for them and i can be available immediately. i have the email of this guy but because in their website is saying not to try to contact them by any way apart from the agency i thought that they may take it wrong. do you think it will be ok if i email him directly?

737 Jockey 15th Jul 2013 12:35

Yes, direct contact is the only way. I spoke with him on a Thursday and had interview the following Wednesday. Of course, this is my experience, and I cannot guarantee it for you too, but the nice thing about Norwegian is you can email or call people, and they are happy to talk to you. Good luck :ok:

michalis1 15th Jul 2013 12:42

ok thanks a lot. and how was the selection proccess? easy? hard?

NTO 16th Jul 2013 12:23

Hello guys,
Do you know if they are receiving/accept applications from pilots without 737 rating but with line experience hours in jet/glass cockpit (ERJ-145)?
Regards

fastidious bob 17th Jul 2013 08:00

Can anyone tell me the monthly take home pay for a NAS 737 Captain based in the UK?
Many Thanks

737 Jockey 17th Jul 2013 09:58

Interview is a pleasant experience. They want to get to know you, see if you fit in with the company culture, which IMO is professional but relaxed, typically Scandinavian. Prior to interview they send you links to online personality test and Matrigma (visual, logical reasoning) test. You get the results at the interview. Once again, they want to see you are neither an axe-murdering recluse, nor an arrogant sky god :E

If you're DEC, expect a sim check too. I heard a rumour they may start this for FO also, but the sims are working hard already, so this may be just a rumour. Apparently, failure rate for DEC in the sim check is 50%, which makes me look good :ok: but in all honesty it is pretty straight forward, you get all the info in advance to prepare, and those who fail usually do so based on CRM issues rather than their flying ability.

Fastidious Bob... All contract Captains earn the same, on average EUR 10,000 per month gross. Your agency will deduct social taxes for the country in which you are based (this is a whole other can of worms!) but if you're UK based, it's circa £500 per month, the rest is paid to you gross, EUR 9,500 and you sort your own taxes out with Mr HMRC on a self assessment basis. I would work on a monthly net of £6,000-£6,500. Basic salary is EUR 7,500 allowances/expenses of EUR 1,300 and flight pay of EUR 17 per hour, so a lean flying month has little impact on your take home :ok:

Hope this helps. I can only but recommend NAS, but of course that is based on my own experiences.

Good luck and fly safe!

:ok:

snak 20th Jul 2013 18:23

anybody knows the minumum requirements for the Command upgrade inside the Company?

go around flaps15 20th Jul 2013 20:47

4000 hours is the minimum I believe.

paholainen 29th Jul 2013 10:17

You have to stand in line for a "core" position upgrade.

GA_flps1 29th Jul 2013 11:17

How long time does it take for a scandinavian on a contract to get a core position with a base in Scandinavia?

paholainen 30th Jul 2013 11:14

You have to be on contract for 2 years, after that you´ll be offered a core contract at your base, only as a F/O. Don´t know how long the waiting is for scandinavian bases atm.

captplaystation 30th Jul 2013 13:37

paholainen


Sorry, but that is total fiction.

Those that joined before March 2012 had to wait between 12 - 18 mths for a core position. This was as FO (regardless of your rank as a Contractor ) and was at one of the core bases (Norway /Sweden /Denmark ) & NOT where you are based as Contractor.

The 2 year thingy, is an agreement reached between NAS & the Union last year that allowed new bases to employ contractors for 2 years, at which stage the base would be assessed for viability & a permanent contract then offered if the base continued. This was subject to an extension to 3 years (which NAS are using in HEL, but have not notified the Union why ) & did not really specify if A- permanent is offered when the base is 2 yrs old, everyone subsequently employed there will be permanent, or B - anyone who has been employed there for 2 years will be made permanent. It seems the definition of "permanent" is not too sure either. . . ."permanent" on a (core) NAS contract/ "permanent" on A.N.Other contract I.E with NAS longhaul (who already have one of the based 738 on their AOC) or NAS Finland ( if they invent it) or ARPI/PARC/Confair.

NAS have found a mechanism to allow Contract Capts to continue on "leave of absence" from their permanent FO position as Contract Capts at one of the (non- Scandinavian ) contract bases, initially for 6mths, but recently extended another 6 (normally this is for max 2 years. . but) Some of these Capts on LOA have also been given a "temporary Command" at CPH for a couple of months so the permanent guys can take leave during school holidays.

Some newly employed Contract FO's were given a 6mth "K Area" ( I.E Scandinavia ) Summer contract, and will resume as Contract FO's at a contract base from Nov.
Recently promoted Core FO's have been given upgrade on condition that they take leave of absence as Contract Capt for 6 ? 12 ? mths. They will be displacing contractors at mainland Spanish bases, their "seniority" has given them the opportunity to outbid Contractors, who are displaced to "commuting-unfriendly" Canaries.

At a recent base meeting in HEL Bjorn Kjos stated "no more core positions", there is a new rumour however of 30 new core vacancies soon (ish).

Last 2 years or so has seen the creation of around 300 + Contract positions & around 80 core positions.
To see where you will end up in the future if you join now . . do the Maths.

Current base rumours are BCN/MAD/PMI . . . . Berlin & Roma rumours seem to have gone off the boil. LGW rumoured to expand fast & further.

GA_flps1 30th Jul 2013 19:32

Thanks alot for your informative post captplaystation, so the dream of a NAS core contract in a scandi-land is also going to be a thing of the past... :{

captplaystation 30th Jul 2013 20:47

Not of the past Dude, but maybe a little further down the road than would be ideal.

Still a good place to be (honestly ) so don't give up on it :=

Pin Head 30th Jul 2013 22:14

How do you apply as a first officer?

Thanks for your help


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