Recruitment seems to be now going through CAE Parc Aviation.

Good luck!
:ok:

Thanks 737 Jockey, however it says that to apply you must first complete the application on Norwegian´s website..and the deadline for that was Dec 31st last year.

But since CAE still have this posted on their website maybe there's still hope after all, by going through them. If not I guess we'll just have to wait for Norwegian to put another ad on their website again...so if anyone has any rumours about when they will do this again, please post something here.

Experienced FOs
 

On my ground school course approx 40% were experienced FOs, the rest were DECs. We met some of the cadets doing the full type rating whilst at the Oslo sim.

On going requirement for both DEC & type rated F/o's around 14 738's due this year and rumours of NAS taking some delivery slots from a German carrier may add to this total, the need for experienced F/o's driven in part by the lower training requirements v non rated and NAS training capacity.

What about the contract turning into a permanent one?

Breakthesilence,

40 "Core Norwegian" vacancies were created last June. This mopped up most of the guys who joined on the insulting ARPI contract (subsequently improved to match the other agencies) including a couple of Capts who swapped seats (on paper).

46 new core vacancies created from April 1st, 18 of the applicants are Capts . As NAS need Caprts we are very interested how this will be resolved.

Rumours of another 25 Core vacancies in the near future.

Anybody who joined before 6th March last year has got a core interview.

I've heard on the grapevine of possible other uk bases (after lgw). Any truth or just a vicious rumour.

Haven't heard that one. . . . heard BCN (;) :ok: ) PMI, & Berlin.

Given that we are rumoured to be receiving 10 extra (originally Air Berlin) aircraft this year , and given that Air Berlin = Berlin & PMI, is this the prosaic/polite version of Ryanairs "Auf W Air Berlin" jibe :hmm:

gorter
 

NAS have on order 220+ aircraft and have stated that most future growth shall come out-with Scandi-land thus new bases are a given, we have now ALC/AGP/LPA from 1st of April and of course LGW

I think Spanish bases will see flights to more UK airports this year. Very few English will be unaware of Norwegian if they fly to Spain this year.

Anyone know the delivery schedule of airframes for NAS?

Fleet B737 currently 72 of which around 10 are 300's 14 brand new 738 to be delivered in 2013 ( 2 were delivered last week ) 8 x 787 on order with 3 due for delivery in 2013...work in progress

Still waiting for the assessment invitation...

Will NAS employ cadets at any time? Is there a plan for that?
Anybody knows?

LNIDA
 

Thank you LNIDA. :ok:

Can you choose yourself when you want your 4 weeks of paid vacation? For example two weeks in the summer and two in the winter, 5 days off every other month etc. And is it possible to have unpaid days off if you ever need more than this?

And another question, do you still do the 3 day stop in scandinavia when operating from Malaga and will it be the same for gatwick and alicante, or will you always return on the same day from these bases?

Thanks guys

Guys/Girls,

Anyone completed the online Matrigma Test? Just wondered if you need to complete all the questions within the specified time limit, or just get through as many as possible?

Thanks in advance.

MyIDisthis,

Annual Leave system , at least for Contractors, is a bit of a mess. In theory you should take a Block of 5 days VAC once every leave period (there are 4 of them in the year)

I didn't choose any in Period 1 or 2 yet, and believe many colleagues are the same. Did get paid last year for VAC not taken.

Some full-time employees I have discussed with have said it is tough for them too. Some Scandi countries have laws that mandate those with school age kids must have VAC during school hols, so the rest of us struggle a bit.
Don't know about unpaid leave, I imagine in Winter probably OK, but unlikely in Summer.
AFAIK full-time guys have the choice to do 100% roster Summer /50% Winter. I know one or two Contract guys have managed to get 80% roster, so seems you have a chance to have some flexibility even as Contractor.

At the moment AGP is a mix of SBY's/out&backs & 3-5 nts away in TRF or ALC.

ALC opens as a base on April 1, no-one really knows after this what will happen in AGP (core production as last Summer, or an increase in out & back flts from AGP)
NAS are starting many new Scandi routes from ALC, so likely to be mainly out&back, but of course, doesn't open till Apr, so no roster yet.

Variable roster with 12 days off worked out OK (some longer work blocks of 6/7 days, but longer blocks off.) so (of course :hmm: ) it now looks like it may be replaced (AGAIN ! ) with a fixed 5/4 roster in AGP/ALC, with 1 "flexi-day" /mth for the company to use.


737 Jockey, most bods have managed to complete 30 or so of the 35 Q's & then either rushed at the end to guess the few they didn't get, or (like me) just left a few unanswered.
I haven't been notified yet of "failure", so I guess that was good enough :rolleyes:

You would have to be a sharp cookie to get all 35 correctly answered in 40 min. . . probably far too sharp to be a "Contract Pilot" :D

Thanks captplaystation for the info :ok:

Any FOs been contacted lately for assessments? What type of requirements do they have? I don't fully meet the published ones but I know that people has gotten in with less than officially required.

TypeIV, I fully meet the requirements (more than double of them) but I've not been contacted yet, and I applied in August 2012 to Rishworth, Parc and directly to Norwegian!

As far as the assessment invitations are concerned, I really don't know what's their method for evaluating the applications.

So when does the LGW base open for the summer?

Any updates on LHS recruitment? Seems to have gone quiet again...

Fat Dog,

I believe LGW base is starting April.

As for DEC recruitment, you need to email Bjorn Hansen, details on the website. It's kinda old school, in a good way though. ;)

Good luck!

Hi all,

Could anybody explain the contracts for me please.
I understand that you will start as a contractor but after 24 months you will get a permanent contract? Doest that permanent contract mean you would be on 5/4 and get a pension?

How does the basing works?

No one on a contract has been offered a permanent position other than in Norwegian core (all Scandi folks as far as I know). The company is reluctant to making a base "permanent" after 24 months and is trying (successfully...) to wriggle out of the signed policy agreement. There are in other words no guarantees whatsoever...
You will be based where you are needed (you can of course request a base of your choice but it is, as always, entirely up to the company to put you where they see fit). To sum up: You are, again, a contractor with little or no rights :ok:

So you would say it would be a no go?

I have emailed with Bjorn and he said after the 24 months one would be given a permanent contract in the country where he is based. Would you say that this is not true?

Also how is the tax/social security in Norwegian? Does the contractor have to have a Ltd somewhere?

What is the advantage of the "permanent" contract? I saw the ppjn chart and are the figures in NOK only for the "core" people and not the permanent guys?

Bit like the Chinese airlines' deals - what you sign up for is not what you get. HEL contract jobs should have been permanent positions by now; Ask Bjorn - any Bjorn - what happened...

Again, no one on a contract has been offered the new permanent deal. It just does not exist at the moment. Contractors have been offered positions within core but that's it. As ekpilot said, HEL should have been permanent but so is not the case. You get what you sign up for. There are no such things as "promises" in aviation. What is in your contract is what goes. As for the tax situation, I believe the contract agency you sign with will pay social taxes in the country where you are based. So you do not have to set up your own tax scam company just yet :ok:

Norwegian B737 Pilot selection (Updated)
 

But what is the difference between core and permanent then?

The permanent contracts you are referring to (or so I understand) are entirely new and will be negotiated at each base that has been around for more than 24 months. Or so was the intention at least when the company signed a letter of understanding (!!) with the union last year. The purpose was that pilots should be able to be permanent but with tailored salary packages for each country (even we understand that you cannot be paid the amount you get in OSL when based in AGP). Much to our "surprise" the company had little or no intention of following that agreement blaming various reasons for not making a base permanent which is why the union has a law suit against them.

To sum up: You have the core contracts for scandi folks (or ppl based in Scandiland which is 99% scandis)

You have the contracts with various agencies (they look more or less the same from what I understand).

Hope this makes it somewhat more transparent! :ouch:

Thank you very much this makes a better picture for me.

The majority of contractors are happy with the deal and what is permanent these days? my understanding is that the plan is that NAS will establish companies in the countries that they operate and you will become an employee of that company, the company is growing very quickly and have an ongoing need for pilots for the foreseeable future, the money is excellent and the company culture is the polar opposite of Ryanair, they will genuinely do what they can to accommodate you, but they have a business to run, you will not be based in Norway,Sweden or Denmark so don't worry about core.

Basing is fluid due to the nature of the Nordic winter market, so a lot of people will get moved to LPA/TFS over the winter, but as the business expands this will become less of a problem.

does that company give you a stable roster and a pension or is it basically another name for the contractor contract

nrn
 

Not sure what one has to do with the other?

My experience is that the roster is stable, of course stby days mean you may have to work! the only time things get badly messed up is when OSL or ARN get a major snow storm, but that true of most airlines hubs.

There is no pension at present for non core staff most of whom are contractors

But you do get crew food, free commute e-tickets and they are tickets, not just going through crew security in uniform pretending to be duty staff then boarding with the paxs and ID travel for nominees and ID travel for anyone you care to take if your travelling.

:ok:

The crunch will come if/when "permanent" contracts are offered in say Spain (given that the 2 year period has been "ignored" in HEL, not a foregone conclusion ) At this point it will become evident whether the renumeration package offered is meant to reflect core conditions with an equivalency adjustment for the variation in cost of living, or. . . whether what is offered is loosely based on the "local" market I.E a plummet towards those "enjoyed" :yuk: by our colleagues in Vueling.

If we look at the T's & C's of the Spanish based Cabin Crew that may be taken as an indication of the likely outcome ( that we would be wise to take heed of. )

I guess LGW guys can look to easyjet to see what the future holds for them financially.

The establishment of bases in Spain /Bangkok etc is for what ? to be cheaper.

Don't expect miracles.

does anybody knows if they are activly recruiting at the moment?
A guy in my crewroom said: "Just give them a call" but on the website it talks about the equal oppurtunities employer so I am not sure if it is wise to do so.

I have a major question :

since the end of june 2012, we are supposed to pay the social charges where we are based (that's the current big problem in another very well known low fares airline with the new contractors, or contractors who sign the contract for another few years, or are changed base).

Say you end up in the right seat in Norwegian in Spain... Will you have to pay 40% of social security in Spain, on top of the income tax, or does the contract somehow avoids this ? We're talking almost half the salary here

Nrn, give them a call. It's the only way in.

:ok:

Skymateo
 

In Spain the contractor pays around 7% social insurance the rest is paid for by the agency/Norwegian, there are no "shell" ltd companies.

Some rumours about a further UK base of late. Manchester seen to be favourite

LNIDA, there is a difference between " social taxes" that provide for basic health services, fire brigade, pensions etc and " employment taxes" that are at a much higher rate. The contractor must pay the " employment taxes" at the appropriate rate based on where the majority of their duties start and they are normally responsible for their accommodation. If you are UK based this will work out to about 40% and in Spain about 37%. I understand from NAS that the agency that employs you pays the 7% social tax but that you must provide a ' tax certificate" showing the employment taxes being either paid, either at you home base or in another country in which case only " differential tax" between your operating base and the country you pay tax in is collected. In short, this is not a " tax free" job and NAS are keen to avoid the mess the RYR pilots got into which may come back to haunt the company.

okay and if one would call them is it better to wait a couple of weeks or just go for it. It has almost been two weeks now for me.