Different this time around, you are "cheaper", so therefore automatically "more qualified" :D

This Autumn the future relationship between NAS (or its offshoots) & the Norwegian pilots Union is rumoured to be reminiscent of Gaza, but just a little more nasty.

Yet another Winter of discontent, 3rd since I joined in March 2012 ( & it wasn't such a nice Spring that year . . . more like the "Arab Spring" at that stage)

Following up from the Cabin Crew debacle a few months ago, one wonders how much more damage NAS intends to inflict upon itself by unfavourable public reaction to bullying unethical "negotiating" tactics. . last time around was expensive, & not really sustainable in addition to subsidising Boeings development of the 787 maintenance programme.

captplaystation:

Having read the previous Posts it seems that NAS is developing into 'Ryanair in a cold climate'.

I hope that is not going to be the case?

Posts seem mixed on this Thread: On the one hand extolling the virtues of the terms and conditions of employment in comparison to Ryanair, yet on the other decrying the relationship between employees and the company.

Is this a dichotomy that can be resolved or do you think it is likely to be a downward trend for the airline and employees alike?

I think that as long as you have any kind of union things will never get as bad as in Ryanair! I think the HEL base proved this recently.

The HEL permanent contract is still not finalised. Version 2.5 is due very soon. There were many holes in V2.0 as regards seniority, how many were to be given the offer of permanent, what pay scale new joiners to the base would start on etc etc. . . . & lets not even mention the sick joke that was V1.0. :yuk:

The HEL base is not a standalone entity, and all Unions concerned are attempting to put in place a common CLA acceptable to ALL contract bases , with local variations in renumeration etc to take account of local laws holiday/weekend payments etc.

At least the Spanish Union SEPLA was able to announce this week that they have reached 50% membership within the current Spanish based pilots. An excellent result in the few mths the campaign has been going, & one that puts Ryanair to shame (not to mention the NAS LGW base if what I hear is true. . . Wakey Wakey guys, BALPA or BENDOVER . . .which do you prefer ? :ooh: )

Soryy to be impatient. . but have you read the 26 pages of this thread. . .nope ? thought not, or the "link" I posted, nope. . . too busy ? well, fortunately we are here to hold your hand.

If you did, you wouldn't even ask about "core" positions & you would know the contract is 6mths initially, extendable to 24 or 36mths, depending on base.

Recruitment is for "Contract Bases" (HEL/LGW/AGP/ALC/BCN/MAD/LPA/TFS) although, surprisingly :hmm: most FO's recruited early this year spent the whole of Summer in OSL (not their choice) thereby conveniently obviating the need to increase the size of the core workforce.

NAS are "top heavy" with FO's for Winter, so, why recruit ? and why are they just in the process of demoting around 40 Capts ? . . . Hmnn, industrial dispute. . . . . . strike action . . .some little "pioneers" eager to help out ? Cynical ? me ? ;) I guess you won't be worried that the "offer" is 800€/mth less than the current Contractors have . . .sounds a bit "Irish" to me :(

TR
 

Does anyone know how much are they gonna ask for the type rating?

A sum you should refuse to pay

I'm told the TR is about 250 000 SEK and you can choose to either bond or pay up.... i also got the online assessment which i will do today.

can anyone update us who still not done it?

If you imagine how much of that 250000SEK "cost" may, in all possibility, actually be "profit" for your potential employer, you will have answered your own question.

A certain other LCC is widely believed to have made at least 50% profit on the sum demanded for a TR, hence why they previously didn't care how many FO resigned . . . different now, as they are losing all their potential Capts. . .but that is another discussion.

With no intentions to play devil's advocate here, isn's that comprehensive of all "accessory-training"? I agree that it would make more sense if rolled into a x-years bond, to that the employer would see its investment (or part of) returned if someone quit before the term is over.

10K for a 73-rating isn't much, tho. Would that be a ZFT or this can be done just be done with an approved TRTO program?

DK :uhoh:

I think a friend once told me his easyJet B737 rating cost £17,000 in the early 2000s - so with inflation maybe circa £20,000 now (€25,000).

So €27,000 doesn't seem too far off the mark?!

Bear in mind this isn't just sim time, it's the Full Monty - groundschool, SEP training etc to get you through to the start of line training.

PS: ... plus uniform, pass, meals, accommodation ...

Air Baltic will sell you a 737 rating for €9900. Including landings etc.

Factor in perhaps another €1500 for the various ground school courses if you had to receive them externally as a stand alone candidate.

...on a -500, now rated a Classic. 1000 more and you get NGs. With one of the worse TRTO in EU, probably paired with a former-CCCP military guy as TC.

I don't think so, that is another 6-7K. And then you are out on your own...no hours on type.

DK :uhoh:

But is it confirmed that you can bond instead of paying?

Norwegian Recruiting Process
 

Does anybody know,what is the next step of the recruiting process
after the e-online assessments?

Hi folks,
sent the application in the morning and in the same evening got the online test....

good luck everyone!!!!

yes i can confirm that its about bonding. or you can pay the full amount if you like :) but who would?

Captplaystation
The alarm clock in Gatwick has woken a few up. There needs to be a move in numbers for a union and BALPA is the only option.

Any age limit to apply? Does anyone knows?

According to "The Employment Equality Directive 2000/78/EC" it is prohibited (with a few exceptions i.e. military, police) within the Eu to discriminate against age, concerning employment.
So no, there is not max published age limit. That would be illegal.