Norman - isn't your FOD the one that joined from Flybe?

To the those of you who have accepted this contract, reconsider!
I'm an FO of 3 years with Easyjet I'm on the command waiting list and as far as the company are concerned I'm just a cost they would love to get rid of and replace with cheap cadets on 'training' contracts. I have nothing against any of the people who have accepted these contracts and understand that you are in a very difficult positon. My reason for posting is to try and make it clear that these contracts will in no way improve your current situations, 2011 will come round and you will for the most part be left by the roadside to make way for the next bunch of cadets.
It pains me to say this but I would tell Oxford, CTC and Easyjet where to go and head off to Ryanair as I'm fairly sure the Brookfield contracts on offer are, I'm sad to say, far better than are own.

RAFAT, I think NSF is talking about the genius who came from Transavia,where he was known as "Laughing Knife".

Applemacster

Two points:

1. Ryanairs deal is in a different league (a far better one) and thus will achieve a different league of person. And I hate Ryanair and their scheme.

2. CTC graduates and these Oxford tools that are about to embark on this scam shouldn't be bunched together or spoken to in the same way. They have completely different offers, are in completely different circumstances - one has no choice in this situation and the other is a parasitic, mummy and daddies boy or girl that still hasn't discovered the ability to wipe their own ar5e. As a result, they are getting 5hit on everyone else.

I thought Easyjet said they would never do a scheme like this again after what happened with ATP? That must have been just another myth. Will it be a case of:

'Fool me once, shame on you; Fool me twice, shame on me.'

And:

'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.' - Albert Einstein.

And:

'Errare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum.' - 'to err is human, but to persist is diabolical'

You see, history is littered with these phrases for a reason.


Training captains, ultimately do what's best for you. But if you have any spare leverage or capacity please stop this Oxford scheme from happening, it's a step too far.

Beak, I agree with many of your opinions on this site. eJ management have played a very clever game on many levels in the last year. Divide and conquer is the name of their game and with the current threat of reducing Training Captain numbers/remuneration, I fear that the majority of Training Captains will not wish to rock the boat regarding this dreadful scheme. (NSF being an exception) So what can be done by my colleagues and I? I don't have the answer I'm afraid. BALPA showing some leadership would be a great start though, in my opinion.

New EasyCadets
 

Beak - I think this is more appropriate and somewhat apocryphal

I just can't wait to see the end of the crisis coming. EJ management are making people so disgusted they're digging their own grave to competitors' future satisfaction.

An in-house type rating doesn't cost more than about 12k, so why aren't ezy doing that? Their trainers can't be working particularly hard right now as they haven't recruited anyone for a while. If the training is conducted by ezy then they don't pay VAT or the profits of the training organisation, plus they must get sim time at a reduced rate (I presum ezy don't have their own sims)? Where on earth does 34k come from? can anyone realistically break down and justify this amount of money?

12k cost, 22k profit.

Good answer KrisKross.

65% profit margin, that's good business! the beancounters at Oxford and Easy must be rubbing their sorry hands......... :E

Thanks AppleMacster. :ok:

easyjet exellence
 

The start to a new year needs some positive news. I would like to say a massive thankyou to all the cabin crew and pilots at easyjet.

Your professional, dedicate commitment to exellence has produced a staggering result for the year 08/09.

This has probably been the worst recession since the depression of 1930
yet dispite several airlines going to the wall. easyjet have managed to increase turnover,passenger numbers, and profit per seat.

Due to your superb performance you have produced a profit in excess of £390 million. This would be considered a great performance in the best economic enviroment, but to produce this world class result in the current climate is quite remarkable.

As you are aware the company posted a profit of 54.7 million(source LSE)
This is due to another remarkable achievement , this time by management.
The management lost 330 million by hedging fuel at the wrong price.(source FT) therefor reducing our profit.

To all you hard working men and woman at the front line well done!

I wonder if that will make the cadets who are being laid off this winter feel any better..:rolleyes:

or the guys given the option stumping up for an over priced type rating for part time work on poor pay ?

No one forced them, they knew what the t & C's were...

Thanks for that, my blood is boiling. It is the worst of the worst companies and not because of the crews.

As did Bruce when he joined RYR on BRK contract but he still bitched like hell when it looked like he was going to be left out of ballot for BALPA recognition (he didn't want it)

And we can all see how Easy can rack up such massive profits..... at the expense of the: http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...n-academy.html

paddingtonbear.

I said the ones given the option of, not the ones who took it.

vast difference.