Any idea on what factors create a need for a further 90 bods ?

Very difficult to tell. The fact that the plan of 30 from a few months ago has changed to 120 shows how dynamic the situation is. Chances are that more opportunities will arise. Alot will depend on the GB guys & gals & if they are happy with the change!

Speaking of GB, is there any indication yet on how and when the operations will be combined ?

Yup, just to confirm, my number was not made up based on aircraft numbers. It came pretty much from the horse's mouth. Which does not mean they might not change their plans half-way through next year, but for now 120 is it.

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Thanks for taking the time to reply guys.

36050100.

My understanding is that the entire GB summer programme will be flown by GB crews i.e. as an airline within an airline.

I have been offered a position with Easyjet.

I was swimming for, my god, a week.

The industry changes very quickly, nuff said.

hmmmgoodOJ,

just wondering what fleet you'll be on. I've recommended some pilots, who are hoping for the "classic fleet" but they've heard nothing regarding interviews. Still I'm sure that jet2 will come calling and sweep them up.

cheers!

Just to clarify, has anyone in the pool since October been given a start date, and if so...

a) When did they call
b) Are you DEP or TRSS
c) What fleet
d) What bases did you ask for

I have been swimming in the pool since March, DEP, A319, UK bases and still no call.... :bored:

Many thanks

So, am I !

Happy to hear that I am not alone. What's happening ?

Maybe HmmmgoodOJ is cheap (i.e. already type rated). Quick and easy to get on line. Alternatively................

That he is, just over 1000 hours on type and current.

Anyone know the 'life expectancy' of the 737 in EZY? Presumably to be replaced by Airbus eventually?

No one knows what is happening in EZY until it is announced. 737s could be gone in three years. On the other hand....?

was anyone there for interview recently? guess if there are so many pilots on hold there will be no interviews...and is ezy planning any new bases?

Still waiting since july...type rated with more than 1500on the bus....and no news:ugh:

I am hearing that they are fully staffed until the summer, which I am guessing means start dates around Mar/Apr/May, which in turn means calls Jan/Feb.

Lets hope so anyway...

I am now hearing that there are only about 12 more aircraft coming this year, all in Q4. Which means 120ish FOs to start in Q3 (earliest), and 60 command upgrades. Which means no phone calls until Q2 - another 6 months!

I saw HmmmgoodOJ was on Boeing, which may explain any call....

:sad::ugh::ugh::ugh:Six months!!!! very easy with the notice period...but with no news from the fcrew team we can imagine a lot of things...

any others news??:{

JPHIL68 I've heard something like 2012 Not before.

Its a joke:}2012.......But for the french contract i think it s better to have french crews ? NO........:{

ok so still waiting and for all of us HAPPY CRHISTMAS:)

FWIW BA (the largest employer of pilots in the UK) does not have a merit based system for new commands.It is senority based.Not to say everyone makes the grade but at least you are given a fair crack of the whip and dont need to do any brown nosing.

SpGO sorry man BUT What you said doesnt make any sense...

swordsman - FWIW the easyJet command system is effectively a seniority system too and no 'brown nosing' is required. The reason it is effectively a seniority system is that throughout the 10 years + of its existence there has been a suction process into the left hand seat due to continual expansion. There has been the odd halt in commands at different stages but not for more than a few months. That means that if you had the hours and the grades in the simulator plus you could convince your base captain you were suitable, then you were put on the Command Course. The date of the Base Captain's interview (known as a 'CPI' or Career Progression Interview) is the date you are added to the Command List. That list determines the order you go on the course.

I would accept that we cannot go on expanding for ever and a time will come when 'dead man's shoes' will apply (just like BA). At that moment the current system will look even more like a seniority system except the Command List will take years rather than months to go through. Personally, I fully expect a recognised seniority list to come into play at that point, but that is effectively what happens just now and no one is disadvantaged on grounds of seniority. Like every airline you still have to produce the goods and people do fail for one reason or other. Nonetheless, my observations over the last few years tell me everyone who is up to it gets a crack at the course when their turn comes round.

This was true, but is now only partially true.

The list is currently more than a year long (CPI date to start of command course date) and with no command courses planned for a few months, it is static. Fine.

However... There has been a queue jumping system in place, whereby you can leap out of that waiting list and into a course (leaving others waiting for their offer) by accepting a non-UK contract. This has been called the "Accelerated Command Opportunity".

The last (Madrid) accelerated command courses have now run, but with a new French contract being negotiated I imagine that there will be more acceleration available, leaving those languishing on the list the opportunity to remain as a First Officer for even longer.

100%

The system still works like the good man NSF says. Yes the accelerated command opportunity also exsists but they will not jump you on the list as such. When it's your turn they might ask you if you want to go to MAD if yes you can start in 2 weeks. If you say no they tell you that you will have to wait 6 months.
At the end it's your choice how much you want it, personally I would wait but we're all different.
But I disagree that some can leap the queue leaving others to wait for their offer as you did have an offer, the location just didn't suit you.
TFCM

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Well duh.....THAT'S where the brown nosing comes in! You are contradicting yourself a little bit here Norman, it really depends on the BC before you get even put on a 'seniority list.' You p!ss him off or if you can't really get along because he's a power tripper, then you can say "adios" to having a shot at proving yourself in the sim.

Please Norman, you were a DEC, so apart from the assessments you might do as a TC or TRE or the 'official' bits and pieces you read in the NTC's, you know very little about how a "seniority system" for commands in easyJet works from an FO's perspective. On paper it's fair, in practice it really depends on the base/base captain. :mad:

The Flying Cokeman,

Despite much waiting, I have not had an offer, not even of Madrid.

However, the NTC clearly said that so long as you had had your CPI, you could put your name forward to your BC for Madrid, thus jumping the queue. This, I suspect, was why is was headed "Accelerated Command".

That reminds me of something like Ryanair :O

Just to spell it out then, would you say it was unlikely that there will be any DEC positions for some time to come ?

I'm not in a position to say. But any DEC will be jumping a long list of SFOs who have all passed all the tests quite a while ago, and who are just waiting for an offer/course.

excuse me nuageblanc but for wich airline you re flying?:uhoh:

are you on easy holding pool? if not please leave this forum please

excuse me JPHIL, but if it is to ask me about personnal details, please use MPs , in the meantime let us talk about easyJet holding pool. easyJet is really taking the same track as Ryanair :oh::D

Fully correct, but thankfully we have a real "seniority system" in place for upgrades and we still get 'free' coffee... :rolleyes:

JPHL 68 Laisse tomber tu sais nuageblanc est un petit amuseur public qui vient de finir tout juste son ael chez britair. en mp bull**** man c'est pas toi qui t'amusait a balancer la vraie identite d'utilisateur de ce forum recemment.


SOrry guys to speak in french but Iam really fed up with this idi.t. And I have to do something.


Occupe toi de revisions de reviser tes minimas a morlaix ou tes procedures n-1sur crj ou lieu de nous emmmerder ici..

Just like going into CDG - reduced situational awareness for everyone else but at least the French speakers are okay!

Back to thread - EJ have announeced expansion in the NW, 5 Aircraft in MAN and 10 in LPL end of 2010. not sure how much of this is taken up by amalgomation of the GB fleet and still no clarity on current recruitment - sorry

Hahahahahaha! An English forum, a topic about an English airline and then someone starts talking French. Merci beaucoup for the rest of us! :ugh:

If you really want to do something about nuageblanc, then add him to your ignore list, hist posts then don't appear when viewing the threads and it makes for more adult conversation.

Don't engage him, he is a little boy in a mans' world and he just gets a rise out of winding people up with his arogance and ignorance.

Rest assured when he has spent a reasonable amount of time in the industry his pro-management and anti union views will fade, of course he will at this juncture assume that his many minutes allready spent in the industry is indeed reasonable time, another indicator of how little he knows and how much he has to learn, trouble is he thinks he allready knows it all.

Trust me, the ignore function, its the way to go:ok:

Thats done , best way no doubt. Now Easy is an european airlines dont forget it...

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What's the point of debating a subject if you don't want to hear different opinions? Nuageblanc has IMHO some valid points like the way EZY is more and more becoming like Ryanair, so why ignore it? People (like myself) who write negative things are not necessarily negative about the airline, they just want to highlight the problem areas and are passionate to try and change these. Sticking your head in the sand and saying how wonderful everything is will not improve things, it will only lead to deterioration.

It's only by being a bit unreasonable that you can push the envelop. Look at all the great inventors and explorers. They were 'unreasonable,' had a vision and pushed the envelop. If they hadn't been unreasonable and just accepted the inevitable, we'd still be without electricity, computers and we'd still believe the earth was flat.

Unless we as pilots become a little bit more 'unreasonable' and assertive, the 'visionaries' on the other side of the table (Cor and Andy) will slowly but steadily push EZY in a Ryanair direction with mediocre pay deals, 'undercrewing' with 90 hrs block/month, divide and conquer local contracts and base captains that require 'brown nosing' for "accelerated commands." :uhoh: