Flybe Recruiting and Ts & Cs
 

Hi All,

maybe i will get a jot with them...any news of rostering lifestyle management standards and so on?

thanks for info

Liftman,

What position are you trying for?, then I can give you the most relevant information you are after.

first officer position on bae146 fleet, based in belfast

Our survery says .... ne-nerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Flybe don't recruit jet f/o's. Its been done a few times before, when they are desperate but it causes a lot of problems internally. All I can say is they better not be doing it again or :mad:

Liftman,

I assume this is for a two year contract post, you'll get turboprop money and no other benefits, pension etc. I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you ask about the management but they are probably no better or worse than any other. The job itself will basically be 4 sector earlies or lates, typically 5 on, 2 off but not necessaily sticking to this pattern. The post from alpha charlie is actually what you will get used to were you to join, basically, turboprop f/o's who've been in the company 5 mins think they should make all the decisions on who should and shouldn't be employed.

Liftman,
Sounds like that you are possibly 146 rated already?

They have recently recruited directly on to the 146...although it will cost you 5 grand for the privilege if you're not typed. You do however go straight in on jet money so not a really bad deal, especially if it's your first job. And they are currently recruiting DE captains on the Q400.

eggtimer is pretty accurate with the rostering stuff, and they are tending to stick to the 5 on 2 off pattern. 104 days off per year not including leave and a pretty decent pension to boot.

Alpha Charlie,

The bad news is that if you look at the bid list there only seems to be one person in the company who has bid for 146 F/O at BHD and who has completed the two years which F/Os can "expect to serve on the turboprop fleet".

Assuming a need for more than one F/O at BHD there is no problem therefore with Liftman being recruited, especially if he is already type rated - thus saving the company money rather than them have the expense of training someone to fly an aircraft which will be phased out before the bond finished.

Doesn't mean I support it happening but hopefully if he/she does join there won't be to much antagonism in the crew room - Flybe internal politics isn't Liftmans fault.

Correction to Chesty's post: The 5 guys recruited directly onto the 146 are on tprop money. They did cough up 5 grand upfront, but this is to be repaid to them if they sign up for a non-reducing 3 year bond on the Dash. Don't know if any have taken the option.

thank you all...

I am 146 type rated, 1500hrs on it.

Contract with flybe is 4 month trought an agency

If its a contract through an agency thats fine, Liftman will not join the seniority list. But its crazy to look down the current seniority list and see 16 guys on jet way ahead of their seniority (and no I am not criticising them, you would be crazy not to take flybe up on the offer if they offered it to you to go straight in on jet), it just makes a mockery of the list with guys now being paid pass-over pay for having their career progression held up because the company saw fit not to invest in their future - lack of available t/p sim slots or not! As for only 1 guy internally bidding for the 146, well the company could always train up some of those who have bid for EXT/SOU/BHX etc and offer them a remote roster for 6 months to plug the gap, but I guess that means spending cash on hotac etc. And if it is only for 4 months, it would be pointless taking a guy off t/p to train on 146 only to then have to re-train again at the end!

Eggtimer ... I don't think its unreasonable being a bit pee-ed off with the state of the seniority list, I hardly think f/o's reactions are ott, how would people at BA or VS react if they started recruiting direct-entry captains tomorrow? Slightly pee-ed off too!

[QUOTEI don't think its unreasonable being a bit pee-ed off with the state of the seniority list, I hardly think f/o's reactions are ott, how would people at BA or VS react if they started recruiting direct-entry captains tomorrow? Slightly pee-ed off too!][/QUOTE]

At the end of the day any in any company the needs of the business comes first.

Alphacharlie,

I know it is frustrating for chaps like you, but the company don't care about annoying you if they can get away with it. Some far more senior people have been left just as frustrated with other decisions.Also, I can't see how liftman joining the seniority list or not would affect you. As Smith says, the truth is that we all want to be fairly treated (and so we should be) but the company is not in business to just keep its employees happy.

Why not? A company's greatest asset is its employees, look after your employees and they look after you.:ugh: :ugh: :ugh:

Can anyone tell me what a direct entry Dash 8 captain could expect to take home? Especially keen to hear from any BHD captains about lifestyle, roster pattern, nightstops, etc.

I am currently a 146 captain, but I know that is a dead man's shoes fleet, so the Dash would be the only opportunity!

RM

FlyBe Embraer 195 Questions
 

I understand that there is the potential for industrial action at FlyBe at the moment, but I have a couple of questions related to the introduction of the E-195 into the fleet:

1. When is the first E195 expected on the line and how many have been ordered/optioned total?

2. How many E195s are expected on the line before the end of 2006?

3. Will the E195s primarily replace the Astraeus 733s or focus more on replacing aircraft on current 146 routes?

4. Although contract discussions are ongoing, will pay on the E195 basically be 146 pay for both Capt and FO? Has a new wage level been negotiated for the E195 yet (probably a big point of contention)?

I saw a picture of the first Flybe 195 and it is indeed for attractive looking and I am sure it will be popular with crews. Looking forward to seeing it on the line.

Cheers

1 First one is supposed to be due Late Summer (September?) with another 3 following at a rate of 1 each month after that, I think about 14 in total, but don't know about the timescale overall... remains to be seen if options will be taken later on, but judging by track record if they are unreliable and go tech at the slightest sniff of damp weather the company will end up with 40 of them.

2 forecast is 3 ish

3 replacing Astraeus 73s initially, but rumour control says that the Astraeus contract has been extended, so who knows?

4 Straight swap, no more money, but a nice shiny new type that no-one else anywhere in the world is special enough to be allowed to fly

5 You think it will be in Flybe colours? linkage
:uhoh:

FLYBE DH4s and E195 pilots
 

Is FLYBE hiring? Which aircraft do they hire into? Which pilots are going to the E195, the Bae146 pilots mainly? For those that fly the DH4, do you enjoy it? What is a typical roster or trip for a DH4 pilot?

Cheers mates!

They are hiring, many looking to leave (many will leave this summer), E195 will be 146 pilots and dead mans shoes! Q400 is good aircraft to cut your teeth on, ie full EFIS heavy turbo prop and a wee bit challenging to land.....well smoothly anyway!

If you join the company it will be on the Q400 unless you have a 146 or E195 rating......Command in 2~3 yrs, command on Q400 for several yrs, and then if you are still there and lucky enough (they are short of Q400 capts and reluctant to let them move of type) E195.....don't hold your breath though!

endofeng

DH4
 

The DH4 was a very sucessful day bomber introduced to the RFC in late 1916/early 1917. My grandfather was on the first Squadron to form. If Flybe have them, count me in, I have 200 tailwheel hours!!

Ha,well the Q400 does kinda sound like a an old bomber from WW2 when your sat next to the props!!
In fact i'm sure they are always practising carrier landings in it too,hahaa!!
:ok:

Hey LegsUp - of course we practice every landing as if it's a carrier landing - did'nt the company tell you ???

On the subject of FlyBE, not seen Flying Fiona for a while - has he/she left the company?

just getting back to a point so anyone in the know as to when Flybe will open its doors to online applicatons again?
cheers

DD:confused:

News on the grapevine has it that the on-line applications will go live again in the next few week's - probably by the end of August..

brgds
W.G

Fingers crossed,online application closed just before I got my licence back and I'm quite eager to try my luck for a Belfast City base! :ok: Call me mad but hey I got a few people to say hello to there! ;)


Regards

Does anyone know if flybe are still recruiting Direct Entry Captains for their
Q400 fleet? If so, what are the chances of a Birmingham base? Thanks.

Cheers WG I just got my shiny new license and missed the last recruiment drive :ugh:

Meeb ... errrrrr YES!! Simple answer. Desperately short of Captains still so we are always recruiting! As for a BHX base, think we are so short that you can demand what you want! (Kidding, but there is probably a strong chance of getting BHX)

Jet time
 

Would substantial jet time (wide & narrow-body) have any effect on turbo-prop/jet allocation for DEC's? And is SOU a base open for DEC's?

(I think I can anticipate the answer, but no barbed replies from internal folk, please. I am a realist)

Would substantial jet time (wide & narrow-body) have any effect on turbo-prop/jet allocation for DEC's? And is SOU a base open for DEC's?

No. There's currently no chance of getting a DEC on a jet. The 195 will be crewed mostly by 146 crews and there's a list as long as your arm of Dash 8 people that want to transfer. They need Dash Captains and it doesn't matter if you have 10,000 hours on jets and none on turboprops - to the Dash you will go! Any transfers to the 195 will be a long time coming and will go in strict order of seniority. Recently, ex BA and Cathay Pacific pilots have joined - all on the Dash. Don't know how long they'll stay mind!!!;)

As for SOU, yes if there are vacancies. They're fairly receptive to Captains holding out for a particular base. Not so for FO's, but a lot seem to get a move within a year.

Hope that helps.

Hi all, i'm starting a Cabair Integrated course soon, currently work at BAE SYSTEMS as Avionics Design Engineer after competing Aero Sys Eng Degree. I have worked in flying schools during school/college years and worked as an Aircraft Dispatcher for a year post uni while waiting for security clearance.

Anyway that's my background, now my question is what are the chances of getting f/o jobs in EGAC Belfast City with Flybe? I would love to fly the Q400, and would not want to move from there as my wife is irish.

How many pilots are based in EGAC?

What is Eire like in general for pilot jobs?

FlyBe salaries?
 

Could someone out there please give me some idea of a FlyBe Q400 EXE based Captain's take home + sector pay..?
Plus.. any other 'perks'..?
Thanks

yeah... rubbish!!!

your last question is a waste of time as you are enquiring after Belfast City!? Diffferent country!!!!

check out www.ppjn.com

at the moment i think its £44376 + £1.77 per duty hour (every hour you are away from home base).

No sector pay as yet.

Matt,
flybe are currently recruiting fo's and cpts on the Q400 - whether they will still be recruiting in 18 months when you finish the integrated course, who knows? The chances are that they will be (if the past couple of years are considered). If they are, Belfast is a busy base and there would be a fairly good chance of a posting there, the turnover of pilots to other flybe bases and to other airlines from Belfast is high.
On the grapevine, I hear that there are currently 1200 online applications with flybe, of which c600 have been "processed", ie considered, the back-log is due to admin staff shortages.
Hope that helps,
FB

When are the E195s "estimated" to be on the line and how many will join the fleet through the end of 2006? Nice looking bird...

Riker - the first E195 is expected to be delivered around the 26th August and first revenue flight will be sometime in October - the reason for the delay in entering service is due to crew training and route prooving for the CAA.
By the End of this year 2-3 aircraft will have been delivered.

brgds
W.G

Thanks for you reply, there is a great article regarding the EMB195 in this weeks Flight International. Anyone interested in it's progress should definitely get this. I think the a/c looks the biz! Given the info above, I will settle with the Q400/DH8 type subject to success. Thanks again.