bmi pilots to call crewing at end of every duty day
 

As from july 25th bmi pilots have to call crewing at the end of every duty day to accept changes to their roster - why ?

Management say, it is to avoid roster disruption - what a load of b******s

bmi have approx 20 or so aircraft, single fleet operation, a small route network, how many changes can one expect !!

I say, it is to give crewing maximum flexibility to shaft you wherever possible !

any thoughts gents, particulary from bmi pilots

Don't know what's so strange about having to ring crewing. Until we received a computer based "check-in, check-out" system BRAL, and more recently BACX pilots and cc had to manually check-out with a phonecall at the end of each duty

Seems like an industry norm to me.

Standard practice at my place. Saves them having to call us during the 'contactable period'.

No standard practice at my place.

Why to call them?
They know where we are, for sure!

regards

Do you really believe that is the kind of person that is in your crewing department. Possibly an idea is to go in and work in their office for a day and see if that is the truth.

Max Magic

What does your scheduling agreement say about crews accepting roster changes?

ecj

In our joint we also call in after work is done to see if there are any changes in our schedules. We're actually quite happy to do so that we won't have any midnight calls telling us that we have to show up. Then again; no union here, no scheduling agreements.

Dont see what the problem is. If you have a stable roster agreement whats to be scared of. If you have a sby thats been converted to another duty, surely its in your favour.

I'm with the chap who said to spend a day in crewing, you may not find the portrait of yourself on the walls being used as a dart board, and be pleasantly surprised.

standard at my place of work as well.


then again, isnt one suppose to receive 24 hours notice before change of a duty?:confused: :E

i don't see why you should be moaning, this is perferctly normal in my company and many others

Cabin crew have been doing it for a while, now. Works for them, so, naturally, it'll work for the guys up front, as well.
It covers their ass and crewings, so, in theory, no one slips thru' the net !

It certainly gives greater potential.

But what all this "rostering at minimum notice" really does is to allow minimum staffing levels, saving on cost. The penalty is chaos for all (yes, including "poor old" Crewing), the result of which is ruination of aircrew lives/friendships/marriages/sleep patterns/health.

Since only aircrew are affected, not profits or schedules, then it'll persist until aircrew stand up for themselves.

Seems, from the general consensus here, that aircrew regard the ruination of their lives as "perfectly normal", so you've only got yourselves to blame!

Some of you even seem proud of the disruption you put up with! One born every minute (luckily, for the likes of bmi) :rolleyes:

@acbus1
 

I fully agree.

regards

Acbus1,
I cannot see why ringing crewing makes roster disruption any different. If they want to change your roster they will . What it does mean that is that the proper recipient of the change does not slip the net, which would then cause a lot of disruption the next day with even shorter notice changes.

Your logic is sound in the very short term.

If you think a little further and consider the situation as a feedback loop, you come to a different final conclusion........

What this extra tie to Crewing (phoning after end of days work) means is that Crewing can achieve with even more certainty scheduled departures with aircrew numbers cut to the bone.

Greater certainty, in turn, permits even fewer aircrew, saving even more cost.

Saving even more cost = even more lovelee monee in certain people's pockets (and I don't mean the aircrew's, Crewing, Operations or any of the other mugs who seem happy to have their lives ruined).



Lack of certainty in Crewing (someone "slipping the net" as you put it) requires higher aircrew staffing levels in order to provide the necessary buffer. The person who has "slipped the net" has, thereby, secured less disruption and a better life.


OK?

Totally spot on ac bus1 :ok:

Gents,

If any of you have had to put up with constant roster disruption for 6 years, believe me - you WOULD feel the same way.

more views from bmi pilots please

It means you can call them when it suits you rather than being called at all the wrong moments, also saves Ops so much time because even in the time of mobikle phones it is hard to find some people....

Simply write 'Crewing called but engaged on the Flight Report' - At least you tried <g>

Ironically, the idea of pilots calling in at the end of each day's duty actually came from BALPA! :\