bmi pilots to call crewing at end of every duty day
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From: nightstopping
bmi pilots to call crewing at end of every duty day
As from july 25th bmi pilots have to call crewing at the end of every duty day to accept changes to their roster - why ?
Management say, it is to avoid roster disruption - what a load of b******s
bmi have approx 20 or so aircraft, single fleet operation, a small route network, how many changes can one expect !!
I say, it is to give crewing maximum flexibility to shaft you wherever possible !
any thoughts gents, particulary from bmi pilots
Management say, it is to avoid roster disruption - what a load of b******s
bmi have approx 20 or so aircraft, single fleet operation, a small route network, how many changes can one expect !!
I say, it is to give crewing maximum flexibility to shaft you wherever possible !
any thoughts gents, particulary from bmi pilots
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From: Your Worst Nightmare
Don't know what's so strange about having to ring crewing. Until we received a computer based "check-in, check-out" system BRAL, and more recently BACX pilots and cc had to manually check-out with a phonecall at the end of each duty
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I say, it is to give crewing maximum flexibility to shaft you wherever possible !
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From: finally above sea level
In our joint we also call in after work is done to see if there are any changes in our schedules. We're actually quite happy to do so that we won't have any midnight calls telling us that we have to show up. Then again; no union here, no scheduling agreements.
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Dont see what the problem is. If you have a stable roster agreement whats to be scared of. If you have a sby thats been converted to another duty, surely its in your favour.
I'm with the chap who said to spend a day in crewing, you may not find the portrait of yourself on the walls being used as a dart board, and be pleasantly surprised.
I'm with the chap who said to spend a day in crewing, you may not find the portrait of yourself on the walls being used as a dart board, and be pleasantly surprised.
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Cabin crew have been doing it for a while, now. Works for them, so, naturally, it'll work for the guys up front, as well.
It covers their ass and crewings, so, in theory, no one slips thru' the net !
It covers their ass and crewings, so, in theory, no one slips thru' the net !
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From: England.
I say, it is to give crewing maximum flexibility to shaft you wherever possible !
But what all this "rostering at minimum notice" really does is to allow minimum staffing levels, saving on cost. The penalty is chaos for all (yes, including "poor old" Crewing), the result of which is ruination of aircrew lives/friendships/marriages/sleep patterns/health.
Since only aircrew are affected, not profits or schedules, then it'll persist until aircrew stand up for themselves.
Seems, from the general consensus here, that aircrew regard the ruination of their lives as "perfectly normal", so you've only got yourselves to blame!
Some of you even seem proud of the disruption you put up with! One born every minute (luckily, for the likes of bmi)
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Acbus1,
I cannot see why ringing crewing makes roster disruption any different. If they want to change your roster they will . What it does mean that is that the proper recipient of the change does not slip the net, which would then cause a lot of disruption the next day with even shorter notice changes.
I cannot see why ringing crewing makes roster disruption any different. If they want to change your roster they will . What it does mean that is that the proper recipient of the change does not slip the net, which would then cause a lot of disruption the next day with even shorter notice changes.
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From: England.
What it does mean that is that the proper recipient of the change does not slip the net, which would then cause a lot of disruption the next day with even shorter notice changes.
If you think a little further and consider the situation as a feedback loop, you come to a different final conclusion........
What this extra tie to Crewing (phoning after end of days work) means is that Crewing can achieve with even more certainty scheduled departures with aircrew numbers cut to the bone.
Greater certainty, in turn, permits even fewer aircrew, saving even more cost.
Saving even more cost = even more lovelee monee in certain people's pockets (and I don't mean the aircrew's, Crewing, Operations or any of the other mugs who seem happy to have their lives ruined).
Lack of certainty in Crewing (someone "slipping the net" as you put it) requires higher aircrew staffing levels in order to provide the necessary buffer. The person who has "slipped the net" has, thereby, secured less disruption and a better life.
OK?
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From: Never diverting!
Why to call them?
They know where we are, for sure!
They know where we are, for sure!
