Well said maximum :ok:

Guys - it can't be that bad calling crewing at the end of every shift. You've been doing it for over a week now, and no-one seems to be complaining. I take it that the process is working, and bringing about a greater understanding between the flight crew and operations. Which is how it should be. We all need to work together to make the airline a success. :ok:

;)

A greater understanding between the Ring Master and The Clowns? Somewhat risible, no?
I used to have to call Crewing at the end of each shift. The line was always busy, or so one used to find. No problem. Go off duty. Call crewing each hour on the hour until you get through. That's a duty call then. Twelve hour rest, or whatever, starts from the time you put that telephone receiver down having spoken with Crewing.
' Course, you can only do that if you're fairly well up on the Seniority List. But it doesn't half make 'em squeal at head office!:eek: Great Fun!:E

acbus1:

My last employer had shocking rostering stability, far worse then could ever be imagined at bmi. We didn't have the practice of phoning ops when we landed and it was a pain in the backside. Many crews refused to answer calls from crewing when not at work - which they are prefectly entitled to. This left standby crews resorting to the fact that their standby duty was not safe. I recall once getting called out on a standby and operating and then heading home and then getting called out when I got back home! I recall one evening returning home after a tiring day on a late. I was in bed assleap when 10 hours after finishing my duty my phone rang which woke me up from a deep sleep. I answered it since I was up anyway and it was a roster change and probably one that could of been passed onto me if my last airline had the practice of phoning crewing once you land and before you finish your duty.

My new company has the policy of phoning crewing when we land and this is works well since I would rather be told whilst I am still at work if I have a duty change which is rare. This avoids crewing trying to call me in my time off which is a bonus. If I have a standby rostered for the next day and I am on a early (for example) then I like to know in advance instead of 5hitting the bed when the phone goes at silly o'clock in the morning. The process of phoning crewing works well and normally the forst back to the crew room phones and any changes (which are rare) are passed to the rest of the crew.

But if it is really as bad as you say it is, how do you expect bmi to recruit anyone to solve the crewing crisis? Sitting beside a moaning sod for a days duty doesn't fill me with much enthusiasm! I have always thought that bmi mainline bus drivers sound pissed off on the R/T... told one to cheer up one dark and quiet evening at ABZ whilst he was taxying out - needless to say that he didn't bite!

And with that attitude, little blue, you simply fuel the dodges we have to invoke to keep out of your grasp.

As maximum points out at the top of this page, pilots have lives, as complex and worthy as yours.

You have a stable roster pattern and can plan yours. We are expected to be on 24/7 call out except on days off, and you even want to be able to contact us then, too.

If you want me, you'll get my name 'on the board' or whistle.

In one 28 day period recently, I carried out just three duties as rostered. Is it any wonder I try to avoid you wherever I can?

bmi recruitment
 

This is off the mark in terms of bmi pilots calling crewing each duty day BUT what is the current recruitment situation with bmi and taking on new FO's? Or are they still taking pilots back from bmibaby secondment if at all?

Are the A330 guys and girls who fly out of Manchester based here, or do they fly up from London the night before and nightstop etc?

Just wondering if there might be any recruitment onto the A330 or not for DE FO's?