EZY vs RYR
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UK wise-
Non rated FO you pay your rating at EZY, you dont at RYR.
FO pay is better in the short term at RYR.
Quicker command at RYR.
5-4 regardless (and except during training) at RYR.
EZY have a long standing and fairly rock solid union membership and associated CC.
RYR have come on leaps and bounds on the union/CC side in the last 7 -8 years, which has resulted in high basic pay and low productivity pay(used to be the opposite). Easyjet has already been on that spectrum for years in terms high basic etc…
Easyjet get decent LOL, and quite a decent loyalty bonus and far superior pension. Thats a work in progress for the Ryanair CC. I.E. LOL and loyalty doesn't exist.
RYR pension- Captains 8k matched and FOs 3K matched.
If you lose your medical in RYR you get 6 months full basic salary- then your on your own i.e. potentially remain on the books but no pay.
In RYR 2 sick days can be self certified per month (full pay). 3 and above, requires DR cert (full pay).
RYR Death in Service benefit is double basic:
230K ish for Captains and 116K ish for FOs.
This applies to any UK pilot directly employed by RYR and if anything untoward happens in or out of work. Not sure on the above for EZY.
Base wise in RYR: UK passport holder ( Ireland, UK or Morocco)
EU passport holder: Take your pick (seniority depending) from 95ish bases (best net pay is Italian CLA).
Working day off UK in RYR :
Captain: £1000 plus sector pay.
FO: £500 plus sector pay
Not sure what this is at EZY.
At the moment UK FOs who upgrade remain in the UK if they so wish due to demand.
I know nothing about WIZZ and quite frankly I dont think I will ever want to.
Hope that helps.
Non rated FO you pay your rating at EZY, you dont at RYR.
FO pay is better in the short term at RYR.
Quicker command at RYR.
5-4 regardless (and except during training) at RYR.
EZY have a long standing and fairly rock solid union membership and associated CC.
RYR have come on leaps and bounds on the union/CC side in the last 7 -8 years, which has resulted in high basic pay and low productivity pay(used to be the opposite). Easyjet has already been on that spectrum for years in terms high basic etc…
Easyjet get decent LOL, and quite a decent loyalty bonus and far superior pension. Thats a work in progress for the Ryanair CC. I.E. LOL and loyalty doesn't exist.
RYR pension- Captains 8k matched and FOs 3K matched.
If you lose your medical in RYR you get 6 months full basic salary- then your on your own i.e. potentially remain on the books but no pay.
In RYR 2 sick days can be self certified per month (full pay). 3 and above, requires DR cert (full pay).
RYR Death in Service benefit is double basic:
230K ish for Captains and 116K ish for FOs.
This applies to any UK pilot directly employed by RYR and if anything untoward happens in or out of work. Not sure on the above for EZY.
Base wise in RYR: UK passport holder ( Ireland, UK or Morocco)
EU passport holder: Take your pick (seniority depending) from 95ish bases (best net pay is Italian CLA).
Working day off UK in RYR :
Captain: £1000 plus sector pay.
FO: £500 plus sector pay
Not sure what this is at EZY.
At the moment UK FOs who upgrade remain in the UK if they so wish due to demand.
I know nothing about WIZZ and quite frankly I dont think I will ever want to.
Hope that helps.
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The only non contractual item I can think of is staff travel, for what it is worth. And discretionary shares, which are granted only on particularly good years.
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I totally understand, however any examples or specifics would be better than nothing to get an idea of the state of affairs in either company
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Thanks. Just looking for a comparison with Jet2 (I appreciate that the thread is EZY Vs RYR so apologies) where the bonus makes up a decent part of the package but is entirely discretionary. The contractual package at EZY must be a good bit bigger.
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Recently signed deal, with an average of 35 sectors per month, 650-ish hours per year, which is the average from what I gather from all my full time collegues I speak to.
Cpt with 5 years in the company all in around 206k-ish, 10 years in the company 215k-ish.
SFO (that's arounf 4 years in the company if starting as a cadet), 112k-ish.
All gross, including sector pay, loyalty bonus etc
I don't have the SO/FO at my fingertips, sorry.
Differences are not huge between countries money wise, but taxation can be, depending on your residence and family status.
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I'll take the german contract as an example. It is not the best nor the worst in EU land, but just to give an idea.
Recently signed deal, with an average of 35 sectors per month, 650-ish hours per year, which is the average from what I gather from all my full time collegues I speak to.
Cpt with 5 years in the company all in around 206k-ish, 10 years in the company 215k-ish.
SFO (that's arounf 4 years in the company if starting as a cadet), 112k-ish.
All gross, including sector pay, loyalty bonus etc
I don't have the SO/FO at my fingertips, sorry.
Differences are not huge between countries money wise, but taxation can be, depending on your residence and family status.
Recently signed deal, with an average of 35 sectors per month, 650-ish hours per year, which is the average from what I gather from all my full time collegues I speak to.
Cpt with 5 years in the company all in around 206k-ish, 10 years in the company 215k-ish.
SFO (that's arounf 4 years in the company if starting as a cadet), 112k-ish.
All gross, including sector pay, loyalty bonus etc
I don't have the SO/FO at my fingertips, sorry.
Differences are not huge between countries money wise, but taxation can be, depending on your residence and family status.
