EZY vs RYR
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EZY vs RYR
Hello ladies and gents,
Just wondering your opinion on contract differences between EZY and RYR as a SO/FO. Is one clearly better than the other? Are the finer details such as crew food, uniforms, stable roster (5-4s), accommodation at sims etc etc valued or is it more the case of don't sweat the small stuff?
Is jumping ship from one to the other worth it? Or is searching for a completely different airline the better option. Interested to hear anyone's take.
Just wondering your opinion on contract differences between EZY and RYR as a SO/FO. Is one clearly better than the other? Are the finer details such as crew food, uniforms, stable roster (5-4s), accommodation at sims etc etc valued or is it more the case of don't sweat the small stuff?
Is jumping ship from one to the other worth it? Or is searching for a completely different airline the better option. Interested to hear anyone's take.
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Hello ladies and gents,
Just wondering your opinion on contract differences between EZY and RYR as a SO/FO. Is one clearly better than the other? Are the finer details such as crew food, uniforms, stable roster (5-4s), accommodation at sims etc etc valued or is it more the case of don't sweat the small stuff?
Is jumping ship from one to the other worth it? Or is searching for a completely different airline the better option. Interested to hear anyone's take.
Just wondering your opinion on contract differences between EZY and RYR as a SO/FO. Is one clearly better than the other? Are the finer details such as crew food, uniforms, stable roster (5-4s), accommodation at sims etc etc valued or is it more the case of don't sweat the small stuff?
Is jumping ship from one to the other worth it? Or is searching for a completely different airline the better option. Interested to hear anyone's take.
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It can depend on the country of the base and any local agreements.
In the UK I personally think that Ryanair is better if you're looking at the short term, the FO salary is better than an easyJet FO salary, even if you consider the extras you pay for at Ryanair. The fact you get a 5/4 roster can't be forgotten as the easyJet random roster in summer is incredibly demanding and full of changes, I found Ryanair to be a lot more stable.
EasyJet seems to reward those who have been at the company a long time. The captains are paid great salaries, treated nicer than you would be at Ryanair, and they receive a decent roster. If looking for a long term career with a company, I'd pick easy.
This is just my personal opinion though.
In the UK I personally think that Ryanair is better if you're looking at the short term, the FO salary is better than an easyJet FO salary, even if you consider the extras you pay for at Ryanair. The fact you get a 5/4 roster can't be forgotten as the easyJet random roster in summer is incredibly demanding and full of changes, I found Ryanair to be a lot more stable.
EasyJet seems to reward those who have been at the company a long time. The captains are paid great salaries, treated nicer than you would be at Ryanair, and they receive a decent roster. If looking for a long term career with a company, I'd pick easy.
This is just my personal opinion though.
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who in their right mind would choose Wizz unless you happen to live nearby one of their Eastern European bases? Anyway as alluded to previously, Ezy is for a career but we are definitely not leading on pay the first few years with the seasonal contracts in Spain and Portugal. Ryanair is for better start pay and quicker upgrade but then plan on going somewhere else later on. Ryanair has an enormous turnover compared to Ezy.
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Great headline figures, pretty shameful ancillaries.
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nobody voluntarily joins wizzair. It’s the airline for brand new cadets to get 500-1500 hours on the bus then shoot elsewhere and all there captains are Thomas cook/monarch lot who got picked up after they went bust and are either too lazy or old to go to another airline. Saying that around 10-15 captains have left for J2 this year.
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UK wise-
Non rated FO you pay your rating at EZY, you dont at RYR.
FO pay is better in the short term at RYR.
Quicker command at RYR.
5-4 regardless (and except during training) at RYR.
EZY have a long standing and fairly rock solid union membership and associated CC.
RYR have come on leaps and bounds on the union/CC side in the last 7 -8 years, which has resulted in high basic pay and low productivity pay(used to be the opposite). Easyjet has already been on that spectrum for years in terms high basic etc…
Easyjet get decent LOL, and quite a decent loyalty bonus and far superior pension. Thats a work in progress for the Ryanair CC. I.E. LOL and loyalty doesn't exist.
RYR pension- Captains 8k matched and FOs 3K matched.
If you lose your medical in RYR you get 6 months full basic salary- then your on your own i.e. potentially remain on the books but no pay.
In RYR 2 sick days can be self certified per month (full pay). 3 and above, requires DR cert (full pay).
RYR Death in Service benefit is double basic:
230K ish for Captains and 116K ish for FOs.
This applies to any UK pilot directly employed by RYR and if anything untoward happens in or out of work. Not sure on the above for EZY.
Base wise in RYR: UK passport holder ( Ireland, UK or Morocco)
EU passport holder: Take your pick (seniority depending) from 95ish bases (best net pay is Italian CLA).
Working day off UK in RYR :
Captain: £1000 plus sector pay.
FO: £500 plus sector pay
Not sure what this is at EZY.
Staff Travel : Jumpseat to commute to and from base is free when in Uniform.
Unlimited standby tickets for you, partner (don’t have to be married) and children under the age of 21.
6 Confirmed return tickets per year. These can also be given away to family or friends on a standby basis.
Standby tickets can be booked 2 hours 45 before flight.
At the moment UK FOs who upgrade remain in the UK if they so wish due to demand.
I know nothing about WIZZ, and quite frankly I dont think I will ever want to.
Hope that helps.
Non rated FO you pay your rating at EZY, you dont at RYR.
FO pay is better in the short term at RYR.
Quicker command at RYR.
5-4 regardless (and except during training) at RYR.
EZY have a long standing and fairly rock solid union membership and associated CC.
RYR have come on leaps and bounds on the union/CC side in the last 7 -8 years, which has resulted in high basic pay and low productivity pay(used to be the opposite). Easyjet has already been on that spectrum for years in terms high basic etc…
Easyjet get decent LOL, and quite a decent loyalty bonus and far superior pension. Thats a work in progress for the Ryanair CC. I.E. LOL and loyalty doesn't exist.
RYR pension- Captains 8k matched and FOs 3K matched.
If you lose your medical in RYR you get 6 months full basic salary- then your on your own i.e. potentially remain on the books but no pay.
In RYR 2 sick days can be self certified per month (full pay). 3 and above, requires DR cert (full pay).
RYR Death in Service benefit is double basic:
230K ish for Captains and 116K ish for FOs.
This applies to any UK pilot directly employed by RYR and if anything untoward happens in or out of work. Not sure on the above for EZY.
Base wise in RYR: UK passport holder ( Ireland, UK or Morocco)
EU passport holder: Take your pick (seniority depending) from 95ish bases (best net pay is Italian CLA).
Working day off UK in RYR :
Captain: £1000 plus sector pay.
FO: £500 plus sector pay
Not sure what this is at EZY.
Staff Travel : Jumpseat to commute to and from base is free when in Uniform.
Unlimited standby tickets for you, partner (don’t have to be married) and children under the age of 21.
6 Confirmed return tickets per year. These can also be given away to family or friends on a standby basis.
Standby tickets can be booked 2 hours 45 before flight.
At the moment UK FOs who upgrade remain in the UK if they so wish due to demand.
I know nothing about WIZZ, and quite frankly I dont think I will ever want to.
Hope that helps.
Last edited by Lazydogg; 15th August 2024 at 08:34.