RYANAIR pilots, please share your thoughts/ experience

[midnight cruiser]

Well, having sat in the back a few times on both, even Ryanair clientele are a cut above jet 2s, who mostly are very much C,D and E's, often very new to flying, compared to Ryanair to whom it's like a bus to see friends and family. The notable thing to me was that whereas the fabulous Ryanair crew are very thick skinned and adept at defusing conflict, on two occasions the jet2 crew were incredibly and unnecessarily confrontational with clients who displeased them, one poor woman bawled at for having the temerity to dare to move the CCs bag in the locker!

[GDWN]

Any significant pay rises expected this year in Ryanair DAC (UK) ?

[AlwaysWondering]

Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone could supply information for someone starting as a cadet.

I'm particularly interested in a few things:
Timeline between successful interview and type rating, and between type rating and base training.
The sort of base I can expect with Irish passport and Irish license. I guess Dublin is out. Is it most likely to be the UK?
Actual upgrade times at the moment.

[Singapore777]

Originally Posted by AlwaysWondering

Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone could supply information for someone starting as a cadet.

I'm particularly interested in a few things:
Timeline between successful interview and type rating, and between type rating and base training.
The sort of base I can expect with Irish passport and Irish license. I guess Dublin is out. Is it most likely to be the UK?
Actual upgrade times at the moment.

Current TRs being offered are end of July
Seemingly the BT is still happening a week or so after LST, but the wait between BT and LT remains 4-6 months. As far as a base, whilst a UK base seems logical, I’ve seen all sorts so prepare for anything.
also worth adding a group of TRs recently got delayed 8weeks part way through their course, no pay etc

[R T Jones]

4 to 6 months from base training to line training?! Is this down to the boeing delays or training capacity?

[pilot2021]

Originally Posted by R T Jones

4 to 6 months from base training to line training?! Is this down to the boeing delays or training capacity?

lack of LTC

[UAV689]

Originally Posted by R T Jones

4 to 6 months from base training to line training?! Is this down to the boeing delays or training capacity?

A lack of trainers on the line, desperately short, and currently talk of a mass resignation of 50 trainers in Spain as well to compound the problem.

In the 2017 great pilot famine, sorry, rostering crisis, base training was the choke point in the pipeline. They have created a lot of base training capts and now also run the days from more airports, but all it did was push the bottle neck further down stream.

I have seen DE FO, rated on the 737, take 6 months in line training to do 40 sectors...

[AlwaysWondering]

Thanks Singapore777 for the information. Concerning about the long gap between base and line training. Not just the delay and lack of salary, but also skill degradation. Though I am sure Ryanair is not the only airline facing issues.

[midnight cruiser]

I think type rated direct entries continue to get salary while they wait. Even so, a small number drift away to other jobs rather than wait.

[dick byrne]

The 100 or so Non Rated Flybe/Blue Islands P2s that came in over the last year took about 8 months to a year to get rated and checked. They were all on full SFO salary and rating paid for (bonded 12k reducing over three years) from day 1.

Cadets however are a very different story with renumeration until they are line checked. They then enter the CLA like everyone else.

[172_driver]

Is the regulator OK with 4-6 months from base training to line training?
There must be some refresher in the simulator... right...?

[Scorpape]

Originally Posted by 172_driver

Is the regulator OK with 4-6 months from base training to line training?
There must be some refresher in the simulator... right...?

Yes there is, expect several sim sessions to stay current before line training