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Old 10th Feb 2024, 17:31
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Any DEC/EU opening up any time soon?

Hi everyone.

Any rumours about DEC openings for easyJet Europe anytime soon?
I keep hearing and reading that EZ is short on pilots for summer24, so wondering how that omelet's cooking, and how many eggs will be needed.

Happy landings.
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Old 10th Feb 2024, 18:08
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It seems there are always new command opportunities in Spain and Portugal, especially the bases that are summer only. I would say as close to zero chance in France and Italy, Germany and Netherlands I would also say was unlikely.

We are told internally that recruitment is complete for summer 24 and attrition is on plan....
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Old 10th Feb 2024, 19:03
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Originally Posted by Madp1lot
Hi everyone.

Any rumours about DEC openings for easyJet Europe anytime soon?
I keep hearing and reading that EZ is short on pilots for summer24, so wondering how that omelet's cooking, and how many eggs will be needed.

Happy landings.
Not very likely to open for DEC, if anything just in small numbers in Spain and Portugal. About 200 upgrades per year, and very little to no attrition on the LHS in Europe.
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Old 10th Feb 2024, 21:15
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Originally Posted by Lepo
The problem of self sponsored type rating as the "best" possibility for a first job was a monster created by pilots who wanted to fast track to an airline job without going through the "hassle" of hour building. Some airlines wisely realized people were willing to pay for this and started offering this program and freed themselves the responsibility of financing training for their own pilots, which is the rule in most places worldwide.

Now this monster is too big and no one knows how to defeat it, as you can see from posts above. Those who decide to follow the traditional career path of hour building flying small airplanes and/or regional airlines get behind financially compared to those who pay for a type rating right out of flight school and start flying a B737/A320 as their first job.

I honestly don't know how this can be solved since saying "don't pay for it" does not work. People are willing to pay for it. Only a change in regulations would force airlines to pay for the training of their own pilots.
mmm how about imposing a similar rule to the us 1500 hr rule?

thanks to that rule us pilots not only have better pay but much better rosters and a lot more of days off
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Old 11th Feb 2024, 10:48
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Originally Posted by dlcmdrx
mmm how about imposing a similar rule to the us 1500 hr rule?

thanks to that rule us pilots not only have better pay but much better rosters and a lot more of days off
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Only problem with that is that there is almost no way in the UK or EU to get 1500 hrs, as there are very few non-airline openings. Plus, in this part of the world a 1500 hr SEP pilot historically hasn't usually been any better a pilot than a 180 hr cadet! It's about training standards not just hours.
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Old 11th Feb 2024, 11:04
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Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat
Naughty
Plus, in this part of the world a 1500 hr SEP pilot historically hasn't usually been any better a pilot than a 180 hr cadet! It's about training standards not just hours.
That's not my experience, certainly in terms of handling skills and operating spare mental capacity ... and it does seem that more and more serious incidents are of the that variety eg, low speed events, major deviations from profile, prangs and excursions.
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Old 11th Feb 2024, 13:13
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Originally Posted by R T Jones

We are told internally that recruitment is complete for summer 24 and attrition is on plan....
That’s what we get told every year…..

​​​​​…..when reality shows up it rarely indicates they get it right
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Old 11th Feb 2024, 15:08
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Oh I know… it was very much said with a hint of sarcasm!
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